C7 General Discussion General C7 Corvette Discussion not covered in Tech
Sponsored by:
Sponsored by:

Tire Rotation Question

Thread Tools
 
Search this Thread
 
Old 10-25-2020, 04:11 PM
  #1  
Dub D
Advanced
Thread Starter
 
Dub D's Avatar
 
Member Since: May 2014
Location: Corsicana Texas
Posts: 53
Likes: 0
Received 6 Likes on 3 Posts
Default Tire Rotation Question

Just had my first "low tire warning" experience with my new C7 Grand Sport at 9500 miles. As I was brushing up, looking at the Owners Manual, I saw a note on page 279 about rotating tires side to side every 7500 miles. These tires are "run flats", and do not have direction markings, as the "run flats" do on my C5 Vette. These are the OEM Michelin tires and just have "OUTSIDE" on them. So, should they be rotated when I fix that back tire ? I had assumed that you didn't rotate Vette tires. What is the general opinion?
Old 10-25-2020, 04:19 PM
  #2  
fireinv38
Pro
 
fireinv38's Avatar
 
Member Since: Jun 2013
Location: Hackensack new jersey
Posts: 515
Likes: 0
Received 33 Likes on 17 Posts

Default

you cannot rotate Grand Sport Tires. Size is different front/rear.
Old 10-25-2020, 04:22 PM
  #3  
SnowyATX
Safety Car
 
SnowyATX's Avatar
 
Member Since: Sep 2000
Location: Austin, TX
Posts: 3,508
Received 314 Likes on 212 Posts

Default

Originally Posted by Dub D
Just had my first "low tire warning" experience with my new C7 Grand Sport at 9500 miles. As I was brushing up, looking at the Owners Manual, I saw a note on page 279 about rotating tires side to side every 7500 miles. These tires are "run flats", and do not have direction markings, as the "run flats" do on my C5 Vette. These are the OEM Michelin tires and just have "OUTSIDE" on them. So, should they be rotated when I fix that back tire ? I had assumed that you didn't rotate Vette tires. What is the general opinion?
I will never do side to side like manual states ever again. The tires got noisy as hell. I’ll just deal with uneven wear. These are AS 3+ ZP tires.

Last edited by SnowyATX; 10-25-2020 at 04:23 PM.
The following users liked this post:
beaversstonehaven (10-25-2020)
Old 10-25-2020, 04:34 PM
  #4  
Walt White Coupe
Race Director
 
Walt White Coupe's Avatar
 
Member Since: Jun 2005
Location: Phila Suburbs 2023 C8 & 2013 650ix
Posts: 10,441
Received 2,239 Likes on 1,149 Posts

Default

My opinion: Unless you drive your car only on an oval race track in the same direction, then moving tires side to side (I can't even call it "rotation") is a major waste of time. But be warned there are lots of members here that love to waste their time with some useless work.

Last edited by Walt White Coupe; 10-25-2020 at 04:34 PM.
The following users liked this post:
dcarr (10-30-2020)
Old 10-25-2020, 05:17 PM
  #5  
joemessman
Le Mans Master
 
joemessman's Avatar
 
Member Since: Nov 2015
Location: Lake Havasu City Arizona
Posts: 7,338
Received 3,447 Likes on 2,063 Posts
Default

I come down on the no rotation side. More chance for rim damage. I have never really benefited from it when I did rotate. I'm not saying my practice is the best, but I prefer not to. I do it with a four tire setup, as I do with my Escalade.

Last edited by joemessman; 10-25-2020 at 05:18 PM.
Old 10-25-2020, 05:35 PM
  #6  
Elk
Le Mans Master
 
Elk's Avatar
 
Member Since: Dec 2000
Posts: 5,329
Received 3,257 Likes on 1,723 Posts

Default

Originally Posted by fireinv38
you cannot rotate Grand Sport Tires. Size is different front/rear.
Which is why they are rotated sided to side.

I find side to side extends tire life and have not experienced increased noise or other issues. It is hardly a critical practice however.
The following users liked this post:
Myfourth1 (10-26-2020)
Old 10-25-2020, 07:04 PM
  #7  
owc6
Team Owner
 
owc6's Avatar
 
Member Since: Apr 2013
Posts: 24,573
Received 4,191 Likes on 2,681 Posts

Default

Originally Posted by joemessman
I come down on the no rotation side. More chance for rim damage. I have never really benefited from it when I did rotate. I'm not saying my practice is the best, but I prefer not to. I do it with a four tire setup, as I do with my Escalade.
Why would there be more chance for rim damage?
Old 10-25-2020, 07:31 PM
  #8  
taz2016
Racer
 
taz2016's Avatar
 
Member Since: Jul 2016
Location: N.E. Ohio
Posts: 313
Received 107 Likes on 61 Posts
Default

Normal maintenance. It wouldn't be recommended if it didn't help. I've never had a problem but I suppose if you have uneven wear or cupping it could cause noise or vibration.
The following users liked this post:
NortonCO (10-25-2020)
Old 10-25-2020, 10:03 PM
  #9  
madrob2020
Melting Slicks

 
madrob2020's Avatar
 
Member Since: Aug 2016
Location: MOUNTAIN HOME Arkansas
Posts: 2,689
Received 958 Likes on 621 Posts
Default

Originally Posted by owc6
Why would there be more chance for rim damage?
There isn’t. Some think “rotation “ means tires need to be broke down & remounted which is not correct. Our tires are designed to be “swapped” side to side (but of course not front/rear-different sizes) because they are non-directional (can rotate in either direction). Tires are stamped “this side out” on sidewall which is all that matters. The inside & outside edge is constructed differently due to being run flats & for the cornering stability. Since OM says do it, I surmise it will aid to even out wear patterns from hard driving/cornering. Your choice, your car. Makes no difference to me but I do it since I tend to LOVE feeling those cornering Gs!😳

Last edited by madrob2020; 10-25-2020 at 10:09 PM.
Old 10-25-2020, 10:03 PM
  #10  
Avanti
Race Director
 
Avanti's Avatar
 
Member Since: Mar 2001
Location: Bonneville Salt Flats, 223mph Aug. '04
Posts: 17,467
Received 5,238 Likes on 3,471 Posts

Default

Actually look at your tires, all of them. See any potential issues of uneven wear? If you have to measure to be sure, you probably have no problems. If that's the case, just drive it.

I know it is apples-to-oranges to a large degree, but I never had an issue with any of the tires on my C5 (which I still have) not rotating the unidirectional Goodyear RFs. I see nothing about my C7 at 7500 miles that motivates me to mess with it, as it shows now. All the best whatever you decide.
Old 10-25-2020, 10:17 PM
  #11  
owc6
Team Owner
 
owc6's Avatar
 
Member Since: Apr 2013
Posts: 24,573
Received 4,191 Likes on 2,681 Posts

Default

Originally Posted by madrob2020
There isn’t. Some think “rotation “ means tires need to be broke down & remounted which is not correct. Our tires are designed to be “swapped” side to side (but of course not front/rear-different sizes) because they are non-directional (can rotate in either direction). Tires are stamped “this side out” on sidewall which is all that matters. The inside & outside edge is constructed differently due to being run flats & for the cornering stability. Since OM says do it, I surmise it will aid to even out wear patterns from hard driving/cornering. Your choice, your car. Makes no difference to me but I do it since I tend to LOVE feeling those cornering Gs!😳
Yep, which is why I asked him the question, as he seemed to think the OE tires are directional. They are asymmetrical, but not directional and have a definite outside side.

I did the side-to side swap back in '14, and never again! It made the car feel "floaty" which was horrible. I just get the street alignment with everything set as close to zero as possible. I get very even wear and long tread life.
Old 10-25-2020, 10:19 PM
  #12  
Mad*Max
Race Director
 
Mad*Max's Avatar
 
Member Since: Apr 2007
Location: Toronto, Canada
Posts: 15,947
Received 1,503 Likes on 819 Posts
C7 of the Year - Unmodified Finalist 2021

Default

Originally Posted by Walt White Coupe
My opinion: Unless you drive your car only on an oval race track in the same direction, then moving tires side to side (I can't even call it "rotation") is a major waste of time. But be warned there are lots of members here that love to waste their time with some useless work.
they can clean the insides of their rims while they are at it
The following users liked this post:
madrob2020 (10-25-2020)
Old 10-25-2020, 10:53 PM
  #13  
NortonCO
Drifting

 
NortonCO's Avatar
 
Member Since: Sep 2019
Location: Colo Spgs, CO
Posts: 1,483
Received 1,507 Likes on 737 Posts
Default

Originally Posted by owc6
Why would there be more chance for rim damage?
Originally Posted by madrob2020
There isn’t. Some think “rotation “ means tires need to be broke down & remounted which is not correct.
Originally Posted by owc6
Yep, which is why I asked him the question, as he seemed to think the OE tires are directional. They are asymmetrical, but not directional and have a definite outside side.
I do most of my own maintenance, but not everyone is so-inclined or capable. With all due respect, there is "more chance for [rim] damage" any time anyone works on your car.
Old 10-26-2020, 02:18 AM
  #14  
sgt1372
Racer
 
sgt1372's Avatar
 
Member Since: Sep 2020
Location: San Francisco
Posts: 418
Received 130 Likes on 93 Posts
Default

I've got 6 vehicles. Others like the C7 have different wheels sizes F&R.

I never bother rotating the tires on any of my vehicles and it never seems to make any difference in terms of tire wear or longevity, at least not enough that I notice.



Last edited by sgt1372; 10-26-2020 at 02:19 AM.
Old 10-26-2020, 10:57 AM
  #15  
joemessman
Le Mans Master
 
joemessman's Avatar
 
Member Since: Nov 2015
Location: Lake Havasu City Arizona
Posts: 7,338
Received 3,447 Likes on 2,063 Posts
Default

Originally Posted by owc6
Why would there be more chance for rim damage?
The installer recklessly handling your wheels and chipping the paint with their tools and whatever.
The following users liked this post:
NortonCO (10-26-2020)
Old 10-26-2020, 10:58 AM
  #16  
Vetteman Jack
Administrator

Support Corvetteforum!
 
Vetteman Jack's Avatar
 
Member Since: Mar 2001
Location: In a parallel universe. Currently own 2014 Stingray Coupe.
Posts: 343,316
Received 19,391 Likes on 14,024 Posts
C7 of the Year - Modified Finalist 2021
MO Events Coordinator
St. Jude Co-Organizer
St. Jude Donor '03-'04-'05-'06-'07-'08-'09-'10-'11-'12-'13-'14-'15-'16-'17-'18-'19-
'20-'21-'22-'23-'24
NCM Sinkhole Donor
CI 5, 8 & 11 Veteran


Default

Rotate them if you want - the manual states it can be done side to side and it may help even out wear over the long run.

But I do not rotate tires on any of my cars and I still get very good tire wear from all of them. Just keep an eye on the wear pattern and take corrective action if warranted.
Old 10-26-2020, 12:04 PM
  #17  
Gearhead Jim
Team Owner
Support Corvetteforum!
 
Gearhead Jim's Avatar
 
Member Since: Sep 2000
Location: Far NW 'burbs of Chicago
Posts: 23,954
Received 2,054 Likes on 1,364 Posts
St. Jude Donor '13

Default

We have two sets of wheels-sensors-tires (PSS and AS3+) that we swap back and forth every Spring/Fall. When the wheels are taken off, I mark their position and the next time put them on the opposite side. Also, we get an alignment check with a good Tech, about every 10-15k miles. Tire wear is normal and I've never noticed anything different from one set to the other.
The following users liked this post:
NortonCO (10-26-2020)

Get notified of new replies

To Tire Rotation Question

Old 10-26-2020, 12:50 PM
  #18  
MMD
Safety Car
 
MMD's Avatar
 
Member Since: Mar 2018
Posts: 4,754
Received 1,630 Likes on 1,051 Posts
Default

For a daily driver I find it not possible that regularly rotating an asymmetric tire is going to extend tire life. If your front end is properly aligned, evenly on both sides of the vehicle, tire wear will not improve as a result of rotating tires side-to-side. You're just wasting your time and money rotating these tires. The only thing an owner can do to maximize the life of their tires is keep them properly inflated, keep the suspension aligned, and drive your vehicle reasonably which is almost impossible to do in a Corvette.
Old 10-26-2020, 04:53 PM
  #19  
Myfourth1
Le Mans Master
 
Myfourth1's Avatar
 
Member Since: Feb 2014
Location: Gilbert Arizona
Posts: 6,554
Received 2,242 Likes on 1,093 Posts

Default

Originally Posted by Elk
Which is why they are rotated sided to side.

I find side to side extends tire life and have not experienced increased noise or other issues. It is hardly a critical practice however.
Old 10-26-2020, 11:28 PM
  #20  
gpotski
Race Director
 
gpotski's Avatar
 
Member Since: Jul 2004
Location: Ohio
Posts: 13,891
Received 181 Likes on 119 Posts

Default

Originally Posted by fireinv38
you cannot rotate Grand Sport Tires. Size is different front/rear.
whoops!



Quick Reply: Tire Rotation Question



All times are GMT -4. The time now is 06:19 AM.