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Old 04-13-2020, 08:06 PM
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Does anyone else have an issue with Waze reading the speed way lower than actual in their Vette and only in their Vette? Through Carplay or on the phone itself the speed in Waze is way low. Its normal in other vehicles though, it's only the Vette. It is the strangest thing.
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Does anyone else have an issue with Waze reading the speed way lower than actual in their Vette and only in their Vette? Through Carplay or on the phone itself the speed in Waze is way low. Its normal in other vehicles though, it's only the Vette. It is the strangest thing.
I use Waze infrequently but its displayed speed has always agreed with that in the car's DIC
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Haven't seen a difference with waze and any other reading.
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Are you sure the Waze is showing mph?
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Waze has always matched my speedo, in all vehicles, including 2 vettes
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Originally Posted by GASCAR
Are you sure the Waze is showing mph?
it would show faster in KPH, not slower....
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Old 04-13-2020, 10:33 PM
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Originally Posted by GASCAR
Are you sure the Waze is showing mph?
Positive, the reading in the app is always lower than actual and it’s only in the Vette. My truck and wife’s suv match.
Old 04-13-2020, 10:46 PM
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Sounds like the app may not be the problem. Have you tried any other apps with a speedometer capability to help determine your true speed?
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Originally Posted by rico750sxi
Positive, the reading in the app is always lower than actual and it’s only in the Vette. My truck and wife’s suv match.
I'm a technoramus, but have you tried to uninstall the app and re-install?
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Originally Posted by DC_Art
Sounds like the app may not be the problem. Have you tried any other apps with a speedometer capability to help determine your true speed?
That is a good idea, I'll try another Nav app and see what happens. Thanks for the suggestion.
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Originally Posted by owc6
I'm a technoramus, but have you tried to uninstall the app and re-install?
I haven't done this due to the fact it works just fine in my other vehicles but it won't hurt to try it. Thanks
Old 04-14-2020, 08:12 AM
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GPS speed as displayed in Waze will ALWAYS be lower than what the car is indicating. Speedo's always overread, some more than others. This is a known fact.

https://www.theglobeandmail.com/glob...ticle11487709/

The four percent rule

For ordinary passenger vehicles, there’s no law in the U.S. that regulates speedometers, but U.S. manufacturers (and most Japanese as well) subscribe to a standard called SAE J1226. Your speedometer reading must be within a range of plus or minus four percent off, but that’s four percent over the entire range of the speedometer, and that range can then be shifted in what’s called a bias.

Look at the above chart based on a Scion’s technical guide. At low speeds you’re potentially going faster than the speedometer says, but at 100 mph you’re going at least three miles per hour slower.

The European formula

Now it gets really crazy. The European Union requires adherence to UN ECE Regulation 39. It’s a lot of math, but the simple version is that no speedometer can read slower than the actual speed. Ever. On the high side, it’s allowed to read up to 10% above the actual speed plus four or six kilometers per hour, depending on the type of vehicle.

Compare this chart to the first one. The most a speedometer can be off at that same 100 mph (160 kph) is nearly 13 mph. This is why many BMW and Porsche drivers notice their speedometer is off.

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The Waze app uses GPS for position and speed if I'm not mistaken. If it works in your other vehicles, are you sure it's not the Corvette possibly reading high. Have you owned the car since new, does it still have the stock wheels and tires the car was assembled with?
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It's within 1 mph of what the vette's speedo shows for me... Getting WAZE to always run is an issue, but I think that's my phones problem with how it handles the USB. Sometimes I have to set the phone to transfer data instead of just charge. Sometimes I have to be stopped with the parking brake engaged before it loads. Weird.
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Speedo and waze app are within 1 mph in my car. Yes waze is 1 mph slower, I think it's just trying to keep up is all.
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Waze is always 1 mph behind the speedometer.
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Originally Posted by Apocolips
Have you owned the car since new, does it still have the stock wheels and tires the car was assembled with?
This +1

Both my truck and C7 have slightly different wheel setups then factory. Thus their speedo's are off by 3 to 4 MPH at highway speeds. The C7 is going slower then indicated (I swear officer) while my truck is actually going faster. The GPS in Waze was on the money when I had the factory setups.

Other then tire size maybe the GPS signal is getting blocked in the C7? I've had various mapping apps get confused due to large buildings or trees overhead. Try a different position for your phone as a quick test.

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How much of a difference is there? Is it possible the Vette's display is set to metric Vs English?

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Originally Posted by C7_GrandSport_FTW
GPS speed as displayed in Waze will ALWAYS be lower than what the car is indicating. Speedo's always overread, some more than others. This is a known fact.

https://www.theglobeandmail.com/glob...ticle11487709/

The four percent rule

For ordinary passenger vehicles, there’s no law in the U.S. that regulates speedometers, but U.S. manufacturers (and most Japanese as well) subscribe to a standard called SAE J1226. Your speedometer reading must be within a range of plus or minus four percent off, but that’s four percent over the entire range of the speedometer, and that range can then be shifted in what’s called a bias.

Look at the above chart based on a Scion’s technical guide. At low speeds you’re potentially going faster than the speedometer says, but at 100 mph you’re going at least three miles per hour slower.

The European formula

Now it gets really crazy. The European Union requires adherence to UN ECE Regulation 39. It’s a lot of math, but the simple version is that no speedometer can read slower than the actual speed. Ever. On the high side, it’s allowed to read up to 10% above the actual speed plus four or six kilometers per hour, depending on the type of vehicle.

Compare this chart to the first one. The most a speedometer can be off at that same 100 mph (160 kph) is nearly 13 mph. This is why many BMW and Porsche drivers notice their speedometer is off.
MIne speed indicated is roughly HALF of what the actual speed is. Not 4%
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Originally Posted by Bill Dearborn
How much of a difference is there? Is it possible the Vette's display is set to metric Vs English?

Bill
Thanks Bill but my car is not in KPH. It is some weird thing with app.


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