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Old 10-06-2019, 03:10 AM
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Originally Posted by PatternDayTrader
Then you also don't understand what it takes to keep a car running reliably.
Here's one clue. Waiting until a critical part fails, means you fail.
So are you saying that you replace every critical part that's required to start a car like the starter every so often, just because? Sounds like a waste of money to me, which means you fail.
Old 10-06-2019, 07:54 AM
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Originally Posted by Highway 61
So are you saying that you replace every critical part that's required to start a car like the starter every so often, just because? Sounds like a waste of money to me, which means you fail.
Did you even read the post you quoted ? Or do you just not understand what it says.

Let me help you.

If the goal is to keep a car running reliably, then waiting until a component fails, means you failed at achieving the goal.
Take that however you want, but to say replacing critical parts "every so often just because" (using your words) is failing due to cost, when it is clearly a requirement for meeting the goal, makes me think you are just trying to be a d-bag.

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Old 10-06-2019, 09:06 AM
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I'm more in the "if it ain't broke, don't fix it" camp, which has definitely paid off for my 1996 Toyota Tacoma which I'm enjoying 414,000 trouble-free miles. I have replaced (3) batteries proactively, but other than that, I've only replaced brakes, starter, alternator and clutch only when they failed. Truck still has original coolant, brake fluid, manual trans and rear-end grease.

As you can tell from the below photos (all original paint) I have taken very good care of this truck, I just don't believe in replacing parts before they're needed and this philosophy has saved me quite a bit of $$$ over the years.







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Old 10-06-2019, 09:31 AM
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Originally Posted by Kevin A Jones
I'm more in the "if it ain't broke, don't fix it" camp, which has definitely paid off for my 1996 Toyota Tacoma which I'm enjoying 414,000 trouble-free miles. I have replaced (3) batteries proactively, but other than that, I've only replaced brakes, starter, alternator and clutch only when they failed.Truck still has original coolant, brake fluid, manual trans and rear-end grease.

As you can tell from the below photos (all original paint) I have taken very good care of this truck, I just don't believe in replacing parts before they're needed and this philosophy has saved me quite a bit of $$$ over the years.
Waiting until components actually fail is certainly an option, but if that's the way you are handling things, then by definition you cant claim reliability is the highest priority.
Obviously there is nothing wrong with an individual taking this approach, but there are plenty of situations where its prohibited beyond the level of an individual. One example might be commercial trucks which are subject to certain sorts of safety inspections. Imagine if airplanes took the "wait until failure" approach … lol.

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Old 10-06-2019, 10:08 AM
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Originally Posted by PatternDayTrader
Waiting until components actually fail is certainly an option, but if that's the way you are handling things, then by definition you cant claim reliability is the highest priority.
Obviously there is nothing wrong with an individual taking this approach, but there are plenty of situations where its prohibited beyond the level of an individual. One example might be commercial trucks which are subject to certain sorts of safety inspections. Imagine if airplanes took the "wait until failure" approach … lol.
I do basic maintenance religiously.... oil changes at 5,000, batteries 5>6 years and brakes at the first indication of any issue what-so-ever. What we don't do is live our lives in fear of everything, like that a vehicle may leave us stranded for an hour. We do live in the age of cell phones, on-star, AAA etc.. Can't remember the last time any family member broke down in as vehicle.
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Originally Posted by Kevin A Jones
I do basic maintenance religiously.... oil changes at 5,000, batteries 5>6 years and brakes at the first indication of any issue what-so-ever. What we don't do is live our lives in fear of everything, like that a vehicle may leave us stranded for an hour. We do live in the age of cell phones, on-star, AAA etc.. Can't remember the last time any family member broke down in as vehicle.
If you lead a sheltered enough life, then of course someone is always available to rescue you.
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Originally Posted by PatternDayTrader
If you lead a sheltered enough life, then of course someone is always available to rescue you.
I've lead anything but a sheltered (been robbed at gunpoint twice, and been shot in the side with a hunting arrow) which has taught me not to "fear" simple inconveniences such as being stranded by broke down vehicle.
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Originally Posted by Kevin A Jones
I've lead anything but a sheltered (been robbed at gunpoint twice, and been shot in the side with a hunting arrow) which has taught me not to "fear" simple inconveniences such as being stranded by broke down vehicle.
When someone is readily available to rescue you, then of course its a simple inconvenience.
Not everyone leads that sort of risk free life … lol.

Ps - Did the arrow have a suction cup on the end of it ?

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Old 10-06-2019, 01:23 PM
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It is remarkable how any subject can lead this group to mindlessly insulting each other.

He replaced a car battery, people. Get over it.
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Old 10-06-2019, 01:43 PM
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It is remarkable how any subject can lead this group to mindlessly insulting each other.

He replaced a car battery, people. Get over it.
You should read the thread about the new GS no start …
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You are correct. I stopped reading that thread a good while ago.

Separately, that thread is about a very sad situation.
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Originally Posted by PatternDayTrader
Did you even read the post you quoted ? Or do you just not understand what it says.

Let me help you.

If the goal is to keep a car running reliably, then waiting until a component fails, means you failed at achieving the goal.
Take that however you want, but to say replacing critical parts "every so often just because" (using your words) is failing due to cost, when it is clearly a requirement for meeting the goal, makes me think you are just trying to be a d-bag.
Yes I understand, and if you want to waste money replacing parts that you don't know when they might fail is your business. Reading your posts in this thread sounds like you're the d-bag.
Old 10-06-2019, 07:36 PM
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Originally Posted by Highway 61
Yes I understand, and if you want to waste money replacing parts that you don't know when they might fail is your business. Reading your posts in this thread sounds like you're the d-bag.
Do you replace your water filter in your fridge or sink when the expected life is up, or wait until the taste of the water makes you gag?

Batteries are consumables.


This might be the time to bring up the question of whether or not you know how to even get in the car (or out) when the battery is dead?
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Originally Posted by Highway 61
Yes I understand, and if you want to waste money replacing parts that you don't know when they might fail is your business. Reading your posts in this thread sounds like you're the d-bag.
What I said makes sense. Just because you or others don't agree doesn't make it insulting. Your statement made no sense at all unless it was intended to be an insult. Good job.
Old 10-07-2019, 11:28 AM
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This thread has gone off the deep end with folks trying to justify to themselves replacing something that isn't broken. lol
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