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Old 08-09-2019, 03:05 PM
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Love how the ACS Zero rockers come pre-drilled, therefore, they are their own template.

I've used rivets before, and have a small cheapie rivet gun, but I would rather uses something else. I don;t think I want to use double sided tape.

What about self tapping screws, or these push pins?


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This is just my opinion, but I'd recommend investing in a good quality rivet gun. Then, go to a Napa or similar store, and they should have bags of automotive rivets that match exactly with what ACS provided. Then, practice riveting various **** to make sure you've got it down. Allow yourself plenty of time and use what the instructions state. Measure twice, cut once.

Again, just my $.02.
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Man use the D/sided type I have had mine on the car over 3 yrs now with no signs of come off r anything... I used the 3m. Robert
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Just take it to a shop and pay. I use a pneumatic rivet gun. Takes 5 minutes. If you dont have that kind of access to equipment bring it to someone who does a friend a ppf shop will often do them as well as probably any decent detail shop. It's considered less than C tech work. Like apprentice level skill.
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Originally Posted by need-for-speed
What about self tapping screws
That is what I used, along with oversized washers AND double sided tape. I track my car so I needed to be really sure they stayed put at high speeds. I'm sure its overkill but the effort was no different then rivets or push pins. Just make sure you don't drill too deep or you'll go thru the floor of the car and into something important. I believe the automatic transmission cars have cooling lines running behind the rockers so watch out!
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I used stainless steel screws...drilled and put GOOP in the holes and screwed the skirts to the rocker panel...4 yrs now and NO PROBLEMS....
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Just take it to a shop and pay. I use a pneumatic rivet gun. Takes 5 minutes. If you dont have that kind of access to equipment bring it to someone who does a friend a ppf shop will often do them as well as probably any decent detail shop. It's considered less than C tech work. Like apprentice level skill.


Thanks but I am going to do it myself. My mechanical skills are just fine. I’ve completely rebuilt my 79 Camaro including the suspension, interior, engine and 700R4 retrofit. I did everything but the paint. I just like to learn and ask questions before I drill the first hole or make the first cut. That should not be mistaken for a lack of ability.

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Originally Posted by JMII
That is what I used, along with oversized washers AND double sided tape. I track my car so I needed to be really sure they stayed put at high speeds. I'm sure its overkill but the effort was no different then rivets or push pins. Just make sure you don't drill too deep or you'll go thru the floor of the car and into something important. I believe the automatic transmission cars have cooling lines running behind the rockers so watch out!

Thanks. I plan to mark the bit, or put washers on it to prevent from going too deep.

do you recall what size screws you used?


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Originally Posted by robert miller
Man use the D/sided type I have had mine on the car over 3 yrs now with no signs of come off r anything... I used the 3m. Robert
Thats certainly worth consideration. I know they have some crazy strong tape now. Do they flex any or otherwise seem loose? Can you see a gap due to the thickness of the tape?

Have they been “wind tunnel tested”

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Originally Posted by obxchartercaptain
I used stainless steel screws...drilled and put GOOP in the holes and screwed the skirts to the rocker panel...4 yrs now and NO PROBLEMS....
Thanks. Do you ‘ member what size?
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Originally Posted by SlasherMcGee
This is just my opinion, but I'd recommend investing in a good quality rivet gun. Then, go to a Napa or similar store, and they should have bags of automotive rivets that match exactly with what ACS provided. Then, practice riveting various **** to make sure you've got it down. Allow yourself plenty of time and use what the instructions state. Measure twice, cut once.

Again, just my $.02.
Certainly good advice, but is there any advantage to a rivet vs a SS sheet metal type screw? I guess the answer might be how much “meat” is present to “grab a thread”. It is a good sign that others have had luck with screws. In fact one of the sites (I believe it is RPI) has a video drilling holes and using screws.

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Originally Posted by need-for-speed
do you recall what size screws you used?
Sorry I don't recall. Here is a picture with the washer... my skirts are from EOS not ACS so the fitment might be slightly different.



Finished results...

Pretty easy and straight foward DIY
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Originally Posted by JMII
Sorry I don't recall. Here is a picture with the washer... my skirts are from EOS not ACS so the fitment might be slightly different.



Finished results...

Pretty easy and straight foward DIY
Thanks ! Looks great.

Great idea with the washers to spread the load. I will do that as well.

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Rivet nuts, makes for easy removals .
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I used a combo of a couple of screws and some plastic rivets that I got from a local body shop. Been on the car for about 4-5 months and they are rock solid.
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Riv-nuts would be a no-brainer for me, IF you have an appropriate material to "set" them in. I've used them with great results on many race cars.

(btw, you may wish to do a search here; as I recall, depending on your model C7, there may be some lines that run through the driver's side near where you will be drilling, etc.)

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I've never seen a group fret so much over rivets. I can count on one hand the number of people that have managed to destroy a side skirt and it's not like rivets are a big deal to drill out. At any rate...

GM uses large head exploding rivets. You can buy 50 of them
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for ~$15. Good enough for 200+ in the ZR-1, good enough for me.

They work just fine from first hand experience as well...



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Originally Posted by need-for-speed


Thanks but I am going to do it myself. My mechanical skills are just fine. I’ve completely rebuilt my 79 Camaro including the suspension, interior, engine and 700R4 retrofit. I did everything but the paint. I just like to learn and ask questions before I drill the first hole or make the first cut. That should not be mistaken for a lack of ability.
sorry buddy.. didn't mean to insult your "ability"

with that same "ability" here's a thought... use your rivet gun and install them the way the factory does instead of dicking around with these half assed install "tips" there's a reason they use the exploding type rivets.. we've had members cars rest on the rockers installed with rivets and the rocker extensions stay on saving the car.. doing it a half assed way? have an incident and it'll be a trip to the body shop instead of "just a new rocker extension" you need the size and type? i buy them on amazon 48qty for like $14 to my door. just ask. good luck.
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Originally Posted by 96GS#007
I've never seen a group fret so much over rivets. I can count on one hand the number of people that have managed to destroy a side skirt and it's not like rivets are a big deal to drill out. At any rate...

GM uses large head exploding rivets. You can buy 50 of them here for ~$15. Good enough for 200+ in the ZR-1, good enough for me.

They work just fine from first hand experience as well...
I'm not fretting and I've drilled out plenty of rivets. The question is, why drill out a rivet when you can unscrew a screw?

Please educate us.


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Originally Posted by 96GS#007
I've never seen a group fret so much over rivets. I can count on one hand the number of people that have managed to destroy a side skirt and it's not like rivets are a big deal to drill out. At any rate...

GM uses large head exploding rivets. You can buy 50 of them here for ~$15. Good enough for 200+ in the ZR-1, good enough for me.

They work just fine from first hand experience as well...


dammit Jim! you beat me to it lol

PS that is the same combo i ordered for my new Z06 being built at the end of the month too lol... beautiful car.


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