Am I going crazy...
#22
Burning Brakes
No auto E-brake release problems here either, although I share your thoughts on the newer E-brake. I would have much preferred GM engineered the E-brake flip-switch lever to rest in a position to where it was visually obvious when the E-brake is set (without having to look at the dash).
As a back-up I always make sure my M7 is in first gear.
As a back-up I always make sure my M7 is in first gear.
#24
Instructor
I'm really confused. Exactly which version of software will allow seat recall to work if you haven't set the e-brake prior to re-starting the car? IOW AFAICT there is no version of software where the seat recall will work if you have not set the e-brake prior to trying to start the car. If you know of a software version that allows that then please let us know that version number. Because as far as I'm concerned that version does not exist.
You have to have the parking brake set for the auto position recall to work on an M7 car.
For automatic cars, it's a setting in the infotainment system.
#25
Race Director
#26
Melting Slicks
Perhaps I can explain some of the confusion. With a manual transmission if the ebrake is engaged the seat recall will work by simply starting the engine. If the ebrake is not set recall can be achieved only by pressing and holding the respective memory button on the driver's door. This applies whether or not the engine has been started. I can't speak for others but I prefer to have my seat go to my driving position before I start the car so I don't have such a long reach to the clutch pedal; as such, I always have to push my memory button whether or not I've set the ebrake.
Last edited by iclick; 08-09-2017 at 11:12 PM.
#28
Safety Car
Perhaps I can explain some of the confusion. With a manual transmission if the ebrake is engaged the seat recall will work by simply starting the engine. If the ebrake is not set recall can be achieved only by pressing and holding the respective memory button on the driver's door.
This applies whether or not the engine has been started.
I can't speak for others but I prefer to have my seat go to my driving position before I start the car so I don't have such a long reach to the clutch pedal; as such, I always have to push my memory button whether or not I've set the ebrake.
And I still can't understand why it's not automatically set...
#29
Safety Car
I appreciate GM's effort to coax owners into activating their parking brake regularly, but this is a really lame way to do it. I got so tired of the rigmarole that I disabled easy exit, as it wasn't that much easier for me anyway.
I merely discovered this by experimentation after having a number of times when this would happen to me. I then noticed that whenever it did the Park light on the DIC was not there. Then I tested and as I said I can do this reliably every time. I think the people that say it doesn't happen to me have automatics.
#30
Race Director
The question is WHY? Why the difference? Why not move the seat if the e-brake was not set prior to entering the car? (Sorry but I would not think "Hey I just got in my C7. Let's make sure the e-brake is set...).
Logically no. When one of the conditions has "will work by simply starting the engine" then it would seem to me that starting the engine is a requirement, no?
There are two problems with hitting the button - 1) it's awkward to do it and 2) you have to hold it until the movement stops.
And I still can't understand why it's not automatically set...
Logically no. When one of the conditions has "will work by simply starting the engine" then it would seem to me that starting the engine is a requirement, no?
There are two problems with hitting the button - 1) it's awkward to do it and 2) you have to hold it until the movement stops.
And I still can't understand why it's not automatically set...
#31
Race Director
This appears to be a "feature" adopted in the 2017 M7 models, which is why some say they've not seen it. I appreciate GM's effort to coax owners into activating their parking brake regularly, but this is a really lame way to do it. I got so tired of the rigmarole that I disabled easy exit, as it wasn't that much easier for me anyway.
#32
Agreed
The e-brake activation and deactivation is probably the biggest irritation I have with what is otherwise (in my experience) a perfect car. Numerous times I have pushed / pulled the toggle too quickly and gotten no response from the e-brake actuator.
Corvette (and really all cars) you should be certain that when you want the e-brake on, it goes on the first time no question.
Hell the old handle saved my *** as a kid, Dad's Tercel wagon ride home from school, stalled van on a steep incline. Dad gets out of the car to help. Forgets to set the brake and the car immediately starts to roll backwards down a 8% hill. 8 years old and I knew to grab that handle and pull.......
Corvette (and really all cars) you should be certain that when you want the e-brake on, it goes on the first time no question.
Hell the old handle saved my *** as a kid, Dad's Tercel wagon ride home from school, stalled van on a steep incline. Dad gets out of the car to help. Forgets to set the brake and the car immediately starts to roll backwards down a 8% hill. 8 years old and I knew to grab that handle and pull.......
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The e-brake activation and deactivation is probably the biggest irritation I have with what is otherwise (in my experience) a perfect car. Numerous times I have pushed / pulled the toggle too quickly and gotten no response from the e-brake actuator.
Corvette (and really all cars) you should be certain that when you want the e-brake on, it goes on the first time no question.
Hell the old handle saved my *** as a kid, Dad's Tercel wagon ride home from school, stalled van on a steep incline. Dad gets out of the car to help. Forgets to set the brake and the car immediately starts to roll backwards down a 8% hill. 8 years old and I knew to grab that handle and pull.......
Corvette (and really all cars) you should be certain that when you want the e-brake on, it goes on the first time no question.
Hell the old handle saved my *** as a kid, Dad's Tercel wagon ride home from school, stalled van on a steep incline. Dad gets out of the car to help. Forgets to set the brake and the car immediately starts to roll backwards down a 8% hill. 8 years old and I knew to grab that handle and pull.......
Since the early '60s when I had a '41 coupe with "three on the floor" followed by '50 Ford with "three on the tree," and every DD I have had since have been standard shifts. I never put the car in gear when parked! Back way when it was cautioned that if someone tapped your bumper it could break something in the trans. Problably true with those older cars and when we had "real" bumpers and some folks parked by hitting them!
I did have an issue with my C7 with which way to push the button until we bought our BMW SUV and it has a similar button. The salesman said, "think of it as the lever you had in previous cars, and pull up to set and down to release." Now it's 2nd nature.
The only time I put the car in gear is when parking on a hill. But since we don't have hills in Eastern SC, a none issue!
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#34
Safety Car
I agree, hence my repeated suggestion that the e-brake should be auto set. If the car can set the exit position because it knows you've parked the car and you're leaving it then why not auto set the e-brake? The only thing I can think of is that there's no mechanism to do this automatically.
It's been my experience that if you are quick on the e-brake you probably haven't set it. I tend to look at the DIC to see the Park light and/or flick that sucker up a few times as I'm leaving. But it'd be way better if it did it itself! I don't understand why the brilliant engineering minds at GM couldn't have anticipated this nor why they would make it such that the car would not go to seat position #1 if the e-brake was not set.
It's been my experience that if you are quick on the e-brake you probably haven't set it. I tend to look at the DIC to see the Park light and/or flick that sucker up a few times as I'm leaving. But it'd be way better if it did it itself! I don't understand why the brilliant engineering minds at GM couldn't have anticipated this nor why they would make it such that the car would not go to seat position #1 if the e-brake was not set.
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I agree, hence my repeated suggestion that the e-brake should be auto set. If the car can set the exit position because it knows you've parked the car and you're leaving it then why not auto set the e-brake? The only thing I can think of is that there's no mechanism to do this automatically.
It's been my experience that if you are quick on the e-brake you probably haven't set it. I tend to look at the DIC to see the Park light and/or flick that sucker up a few times as I'm leaving. But it'd be way better if it did it itself! I don't understand why the brilliant engineering minds at GM couldn't have anticipated this nor why they would make it such that the car would not go to seat position #1 if the e-brake was not set.
It's been my experience that if you are quick on the e-brake you probably haven't set it. I tend to look at the DIC to see the Park light and/or flick that sucker up a few times as I'm leaving. But it'd be way better if it did it itself! I don't understand why the brilliant engineering minds at GM couldn't have anticipated this nor why they would make it such that the car would not go to seat position #1 if the e-brake was not set.
The other thing I found does not work in my GS as it did not in my 2014 C7 is the brake releasing automatically when I back-up out of the garage. Forced it after the car had stalled when I tried in 2013 with my C7. Gave it more gas and it released with bang but the e-brake idiot light stayed on. Would not come off until I went into town and restarted the car no matter how often I pressed the button. Was concerned I would have to bring it to the dealer! Always a shudder thought!
Never tried again. Tried once in the GS and felt the engine trying to stall. So, like I did in my 2014 for 3 years, when I felt he engine trying to stall, realize I had not released the brake, press in the clutch and start over!
My preference would be to have a handle like prior to e-Brake so it was obvious it was set or released. But like all other modern changes I got used to it! Few workarounds needed in the C7 but far fewer than I have every day with Microsoft products, Dreamweaver etc!
Last edited by JerryU; 08-10-2017 at 10:30 AM.