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Old 11-10-2016, 07:23 AM
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Default Thinking About Going With a Porsche Over a Corvette?

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The Corvette and Porsche have been going head to head for decades now and usually the Porsche has always come out on top in one form or another. That long reign of power and handling over the Corvette may have just come to a final end.

Motor Trend recently pitted the 2017 Corvette Grand Sport against Porsche’s new 911 Carrera S and the results were, well, interesting.

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Old 11-10-2016, 08:16 AM
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In addition, the high initial price is only the start! Was happy to trade our Porsche Cayenne after 4 years. Good SUV, but needed to have it plugged in into the Porsche service computer to reset after an oil change. Closest dealer was a one hour drive. Lowest cost for oil and filter change was ~$250. At the last service at 3 years (~$2000) they said you’ll need new brakes at the next service, $2600!

The last straw was a battery replacement. Had to take a 1000 mile trip and saw the battery voltage was only in the low 12's. Looked like a half day job to remove the driver’s seat with all its electronics to access the battery. When at the car wash the fellow said, "Nice car but a customer recently paid $900 to have the battery replaced!" Thought that was an omen!

Since the trip was the following week, I contemplated buying a back-up car starter battery. Wife and I drove instead to the BMW dealer in town to see what they would offer in trade. Went home with a new BMW X5 SUV! Great car and 4 years free maintenance for about the same price as a new Cayenne. Probably trade it in at 4/5 years for another!

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Unfortunately I've always had to look at price and what I could or could not afford and to me there's one thing I can honestly say. I've never ever been even tempted to buy a Porsche of any kind. I know they're supposed to be great and wonderful but as Jay Leno said, " I've got friends with Porsche's and they're so expensive to fix but a Corvette is a Chevy, and you can fix it with a hammer!"
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Originally Posted by JerryU
In addition, the high initial price is only the start! Was happy to trade our Porsche Cayenne after 4 years. Good SUV, but needed to have it plugged in into the Porsche service computer to reset after an oil change. Closest dealer was a one hour drive. Lowest cost for oil and filter change was ~$250. At the last service at 3 years (~$2000) they said you’ll need new brakes at the next service, $2600!

The last straw was a battery replacement. Had to take a 1000 mile trip and saw the battery voltage was only in the low 12's. Looked like a half day job to remove the driver’s seat with all its electronics to access the battery. When at the car wash the fellow said, "Nice car but a customer recently paid $900 to have the battery replaced!" Thought that was an omen!

Since the trip was the following week, I contemplated buying a back-up car starter battery. Wife and I drove instead to the BMW dealer in town to see what they would offer in trade. Went home with a new BMW X5 SUV! Great car and 4 years free maintenance for about the same price as a new Cayenne. Probably trade it in at 4/5 years for another!
Comparing a Cayenne to a Corvette Grand Sport is silly. More appropriate to compare a Tahoe or whatever other full size SUV Chevy makes to the Cayenne.

Point I am making is that you can't generalize across all models of a brand. The 911s are solidly made and except for the 996 years, most of them are bullet proof. I'd venture to guess they hold their value better than Corvettes too, resale for 911s are very solid.

Grand Sport is a fantastic car and is deservedly winning accolades. Chevy has really upped its game recently. Hard to believe its the same company that made all manner of crap boxes for so many years.

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Comparisons with a regular SUV and a Cayenne is tough.... the Cayenne runs with many sports cars..... goes fast, handles well... stops..... 0-60 around 3.8, top speed 175 or so....
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Originally Posted by xxaarraa
they hold their value better than Corvettes too, resale for 911s are very solid.


But they still look like a Beetle on steroids.
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Originally Posted by xxaarraa
Comparing a Cayenne to a Corvette Grand Sport is silly. More appropriate to compare a Tahoe or whatever other full size SUV Chevy makes to the Cayenne.

Point I am making is that you can't generalize across all models of a brand. The 911s are solidly made and except for the 996 years, most of them are bullet proof. I'd venture to guess they hold their value better than Corvettes too, resale for 911s are very solid.

Grand Sport is a fantastic car and is deservedly winning accolades. Chevy has really upped its game recently. Hard to believe its the same company that made all manner of crap boxes for so many years.
Hmm, I was comparing the service cost of the wife's Porsche Cayenne and her current BMW 5X iX 35i and with my Vette! Had nothing to with comparing performance with my 4th Vette, a September 2013 built C7 Z51!

Where I have done all maintenance on my Vette since new, couldn't do that with the Porsche as it must be connected to the dealer's Porsche computer to zero the mileage! Even my buddy (who built-up the racing trans for the 8.2 Liter BB in my ProStreet Rod in his 8 bay shop) did not have a plug-in device for the Cayenne. Neither did the local foreign car shop.

Just a few other comments about Porsche 911's. When I look at the old style body can't help recall Pop's comment about my '41 Ford Opera Coupe, that I stuffed in a bored out Olds engine in 1959. He said it looks like an upside down wheelbarrow!

Had a buddy with a mid '80's Porsche 928, a modern, water cooled front engine car that looked great! Porsche aficionados rejected the design. They wanted their old school design with a an air cooled engine like the VW base that it started life! Porsche said fine, it's costly since we don't have a modern assembly line so we'll double the price. To justify the price increase we'll provide a better weight balance by using a few Titanium parts in the rear. To bad for them, Road & Track caught them adding lead weight in the front bumper! That's one way to get a "better weight balance" -on paper! To bad it puts weight if the wrong place for low rotational inertia! Wonder how many Porsche owners know they had to switch to water cooling that rear mounted H6 to pass population regs! Bet some don't care as long as it has that "GUCCI logo" and image!

I think my '34 sedan ProStreet Rod looks great for 1934 but I'll take by C7 for 2016!! Sorry, couldn't resist! I do know the performance difference between a Cayenne and a 911 or it's variants- just prefer the Vette!

Understand Porsche has done a good job of getting around the handling deficiencies of a rear engine car. Loved my '67 modified Corvair-but I have moved on!

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Originally Posted by davidtcpa


But they still look like a Beetle on steroids.
Every time I see a 911 or a variant I think of what my Dad said about my first car, a 1941 Ford Opera Coupe. He said it looks like an upside down wheelbarrow!
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Originally Posted by JerryU
Every time I see a 911 or a variant I think of what my Dad said about my first car, a 1941 Ford Opera Coupe. He said it looks like an upside down wheelbarrow!
It's gotta be awfully hard to shake that visual, especially when it came from pops.
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Originally Posted by Mike Campbell
Unfortunately I've always had to look at price and what I could or could not afford and to me there's one thing I can honestly say. I've never ever been even tempted to buy a Porsche of any kind. I know they're supposed to be great and wonderful but as Jay Leno said, " I've got friends with Porsche's and they're so expensive to fix but a Corvette is a Chevy, and you can fix it with a hammer!"
Price to performance, that's what I look for. If I can get a reliable Porsche that out performs a Corvette for the same money I would buy one, that goes for any other car out there. I'm not brand loyal, I am wallet loyal. That being said though, I love my C7 and both my C5s before it.
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Originally Posted by JerryU
In addition, the high initial price is only the start! Was happy to trade our Porsche Cayenne after 4 years. Good SUV, but needed to have it plugged in into the Porsche service computer to reset after an oil change. Closest dealer was a one hour drive. Lowest cost for oil and filter change was ~$250. At the last service at 3 years (~$2000) they said you’ll need new brakes at the next service, $2600!

The last straw was a battery replacement. Had to take a 1000 mile trip and saw the battery voltage was only in the low 12's. Looked like a half day job to remove the driver’s seat with all its electronics to access the battery. When at the car wash the fellow said, "Nice car but a customer recently paid $900 to have the battery replaced!" Thought that was an omen!

Since the trip was the following week, I contemplated buying a back-up car starter battery. Wife and I drove instead to the BMW dealer in town to see what they would offer in trade. Went home with a new BMW X5 SUV! Great car and 4 years free maintenance for about the same price as a new Cayenne. Probably trade it in at 4/5 years for another!
Durametric has the programs for Porsche to reset the computer for oil changes. I use it on our 2014 Cayenne Diesel and our 2010 Panamera Turbo. All you need is a laptop with wifi. I will agree the parts are more expensive than domestic cars, the dealer labor is high also. I handle maintenance items like oil change and brakes, dealer does warranty work, not so bad but definitely more expensive than domestic car parts.
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The thing to do is get in a C7 fighter plane and go out and fight the Germans.
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You have to PAY to PLAY.....in that world for sure ...
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Originally Posted by VooDooRob
Durametric has the programs for Porsche to reset the computer for oil changes. I use it on our 2014 Cayenne Diesel and our 2010 Panamera Turbo. All you need is a laptop with wifi. I will agree the parts are more expensive than domestic cars, the dealer labor is high also. I handle maintenance items like oil change and brakes, dealer does warranty work, not so bad but definitely more expensive than domestic car parts.
Thanks, will tell my friend with an auto repair center.
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Originally Posted by xxaarraa
I'd venture to guess they hold their value better than Corvettes too, resale for 911s are very solid.
I owned a 2014 911 (991.1) that I ordered new. Resale on the 991 series is crap. The older 997 and even the often denigrated 996 are going up because the 991 is more like a Lexus and less a 911. Not to say that it's not a fantastic car, but it's lost its edge and has become more of a GT. Look at what you can buy a 2013 or 2014 911 for, in the 60s and 70s for a car that typically runs well over $110K new. Many of them are 130+.

Originally Posted by JerryU
couldn't do that with the Porsche as it must be connected to the dealer's Porsche computer to zero the mileage!
A durametric reader allows the owner to read codes and reset service indicators. Like anything related to Porsche, it's expensive though.

I'm on my fifth Corvette. I've owned five 911s and a Boxster and a Panamera. They are great cars, but OMG you pay for it.
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I am 6'3'' and find Porsche way too cramped. I will stick with C7.

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I am 6'3'' and find Porsche way too cramped. I will stick with C7.
I too am 6'3".....And you say a 911 is way too cramped? I have been in several 911s and they are way more accommodating than my C7.......and as much as I love my Chevy, the Porsche fit and finish is FAR better than any C7....
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While being a former Porsche 911 Carrera S owner, I can say it is a wonderful car to own and drive. However, I do like the Stingray Z51 / GS better. I actually Sold my 911 to buy the Stingray Z51 3lt.

The 911 while being a fun Iconic car to own and drive gives you a great drivers feel of being planted with the road , is an experience any car guy should try at least once if given the opportunity .
That being said it is more expensive to buy and maintain and the Justification is just not there for that, while comparing it to a car that will out perform it on and off track for a lot less money.

Sometimes I do miss the sound of that 911s flat 6 . it was an Awesome note,but when I rev up the V8 it goes away pretty quick.
both cars truly give you a different driving experience.

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I like the new 911s with PDk...I think it's way over priced and the maintance costs are ridiculous...still it's an impressive competitor...

Corvette is a better value...but looking over that Porsche hood line to see the road is pretty cool....I like the low cowls....

I fully expect the c8 mid engine replacement will offer an exciting front sightline...

Both great cars and both iconic...


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