New Corvette ZR1 Reportedly Caught Road Testing in Ohio
10-10-2016, 05:06 PM
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10-10-2016, 05:16 PM
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With the front engine C7 chassis, I can't see a lot of takers at that price.
10-10-2016, 08:50 PM
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No way in hell. That I can guarantee you. Maybeee 135k if there really pushing it and they will move maybe 1000-1200 cars before demand drops off big time and there 110k cars. At 150k there going to be sitting.
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10-11-2016, 05:51 PM
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There's another great video over on VetteTube:
http://www.vettetube.com/2018-chevy-...the-mountains/
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10-12-2016, 06:48 PM
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Was clocked at 203 mph by Irving police. Was parked at a watabuger for 3 min before he caught up. No jail just 1150.00 fine. Was more impressed i stopped. Got tired of evading charges which is a felony. Hince why my plates say 0-203MPH
10-25-2016, 09:44 PM
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I'm placing my bets on an LT5 with 750 HP
10-25-2016, 10:05 PM
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It is amazing how the C7 is following exactly the same script as the C6. They bring out the GS model when Z06 sales are slowing down. They also bring out a new ZR1 to get the Z06 people to upgrade. Yes they are following the same script again. But since the same people are in charge it is really not a surprise. 
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10-26-2016, 11:59 AM
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No one knows for sure.
There are lots of rumors; the most likely combo will be the new "LT5" engine, and the new 10 speed auto found in the Camaro ZL1.
The LT5 is rumored to be very similar to the LT4, with twin turbos instead of the blower (which makes a lot of sense).
I have seen three rumored (or guesses?) power outputs, and all three were north of 700: 705, 755, and 735.
Outside of the increased power and the new transmission, I wouldn't expect a lot of big changes vs. the Z06 w/Z07. The biggest change appears to be a new front bumper with large Side inlets, similakr to the LG cooling vents (most likely dedicated to the turbo's intercoolers), and a much more aggressive aero package.
As for pricing... This forum is notorious for over estimating the costs to ridicilous levels (Go read the threads were people were speculating the starting cost of the C7, and the C7 Z06...) The most reasonable and well thought out estimate I have read estimated a starting price about 10k over the cost of the Z06, with the range topping model maxing out about 115-120k; assuming the Carbon Ceramics are standard equipment.
All this 130k, 150k+ talk is madness. GM learned thier lesson with the C6 ZR1. has everyone forgotten the 20 and 30k+ discounts dealers were offering to move the C6 ZR1's? In addition there is not a whole lot of cost add over the Z06. The LT5 might be slightly more expensive than the LT4, the auto might be slightly more expensive than the 8 speed (but keep in mind it comes on the LT4 powered, 61k Camaro ZL1), wings and aero kits are not more than a few thousand even if made out of carbon fiber... So a 10k price bump seems about right to me.
There are lots of rumors; the most likely combo will be the new "LT5" engine, and the new 10 speed auto found in the Camaro ZL1.
The LT5 is rumored to be very similar to the LT4, with twin turbos instead of the blower (which makes a lot of sense).
I have seen three rumored (or guesses?) power outputs, and all three were north of 700: 705, 755, and 735.
Outside of the increased power and the new transmission, I wouldn't expect a lot of big changes vs. the Z06 w/Z07. The biggest change appears to be a new front bumper with large Side inlets, similakr to the LG cooling vents (most likely dedicated to the turbo's intercoolers), and a much more aggressive aero package.
As for pricing... This forum is notorious for over estimating the costs to ridicilous levels (Go read the threads were people were speculating the starting cost of the C7, and the C7 Z06...) The most reasonable and well thought out estimate I have read estimated a starting price about 10k over the cost of the Z06, with the range topping model maxing out about 115-120k; assuming the Carbon Ceramics are standard equipment.
All this 130k, 150k+ talk is madness. GM learned thier lesson with the C6 ZR1. has everyone forgotten the 20 and 30k+ discounts dealers were offering to move the C6 ZR1's? In addition there is not a whole lot of cost add over the Z06. The LT5 might be slightly more expensive than the LT4, the auto might be slightly more expensive than the 8 speed (but keep in mind it comes on the LT4 powered, 61k Camaro ZL1), wings and aero kits are not more than a few thousand even if made out of carbon fiber... So a 10k price bump seems about right to me.
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10-26-2016, 12:30 PM
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IMO, a V8 turbo will make its debut in the C8.
FWIW, my prediction is this new "ZR1" will have a bigger displacement blower outputting a little less than 750hp (720-30?).
There will be various levels of aero available (not everyone will want a Big A$$ Wing).
Pricing will start at $20k above the Z06.
Just some thoughts...
10-26-2016, 02:16 PM
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If they take enough weight out of the car they won't have to come up with crazy HP levels. If you remember when the C7 was introduced they danced around the weight issue of the car. There was a lot of disappointment that the C7 Z06 ended up heavier than the C6 Z06. GM has had a few years to find additional weight savings for a newer model. They will put these findings into the ZR1. All the manufacturers are doing this because weight savings also brings mileage improvements.
10-26-2016, 02:53 PM
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I still say it's going to be an LT5 putting out 750 HP 
10-26-2016, 03:06 PM
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10-26-2016, 04:36 PM
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No one knows for sure.
There are lots of rumors; the most likely combo will be the new "LT5" engine, and the new 10 speed auto found in the Camaro ZL1.
The LT5 is rumored to be very similar to the LT4, with twin turbos instead of the blower (which makes a lot of sense).
I have seen three rumored (or guesses?) power outputs, and all three were north of 700: 705, 755, and 735.
Outside of the increased power and the new transmission, I wouldn't expect a lot of big changes vs. the Z06 w/Z07. The biggest change appears to be a new front bumper with large Side inlets, similakr to the LG cooling vents (most likely dedicated to the turbo's intercoolers), and a much more aggressive aero package.
As for pricing... This forum is notorious for over estimating the costs to ridicilous levels (Go read the threads were people were speculating the starting cost of the C7, and the C7 Z06...) The most reasonable and well thought out estimate I have read estimated a starting price about 10k over the cost of the Z06, with the range topping model maxing out about 115-120k; assuming the Carbon Ceramics are standard equipment.
All this 130k, 150k+ talk is madness. GM learned thier lesson with the C6 ZR1. has everyone forgotten the 20 and 30k+ discounts dealers were offering to move the C6 ZR1's? In addition there is not a whole lot of cost add over the Z06. The LT5 might be slightly more expensive than the LT4, the auto might be slightly more expensive than the 8 speed (but keep in mind it comes on the LT4 powered, 61k Camaro ZL1), wings and aero kits are not more than a few thousand even if made out of carbon fiber... So a 10k price bump seems about right to me.
There are lots of rumors; the most likely combo will be the new "LT5" engine, and the new 10 speed auto found in the Camaro ZL1.
The LT5 is rumored to be very similar to the LT4, with twin turbos instead of the blower (which makes a lot of sense).
I have seen three rumored (or guesses?) power outputs, and all three were north of 700: 705, 755, and 735.
Outside of the increased power and the new transmission, I wouldn't expect a lot of big changes vs. the Z06 w/Z07. The biggest change appears to be a new front bumper with large Side inlets, similakr to the LG cooling vents (most likely dedicated to the turbo's intercoolers), and a much more aggressive aero package.
As for pricing... This forum is notorious for over estimating the costs to ridicilous levels (Go read the threads were people were speculating the starting cost of the C7, and the C7 Z06...) The most reasonable and well thought out estimate I have read estimated a starting price about 10k over the cost of the Z06, with the range topping model maxing out about 115-120k; assuming the Carbon Ceramics are standard equipment.
All this 130k, 150k+ talk is madness. GM learned thier lesson with the C6 ZR1. has everyone forgotten the 20 and 30k+ discounts dealers were offering to move the C6 ZR1's? In addition there is not a whole lot of cost add over the Z06. The LT5 might be slightly more expensive than the LT4, the auto might be slightly more expensive than the 8 speed (but keep in mind it comes on the LT4 powered, 61k Camaro ZL1), wings and aero kits are not more than a few thousand even if made out of carbon fiber... So a 10k price bump seems about right to me.
Then the ZR1 was released and it was priced around 50% higher than the Z06
A good friend paid around $20K over sticker in September of 2008 to get the first 2009 ZR1 our local forum dealer had an allocation for.
That was the norm for the 2009 ZR1.
Then the economy crashed big time and auto sales fell 40% overall extremely fast and people were loosing their jobs. GM declared BK in June 2009, and not because of a car that they only planned to build 2K annually was not selling. Toys such as the Corvette and specifically the Z06 and the ZR1 faired even worse. I remember all the posts here about people having fire sales on their relatively new C6's because they either lost their job or had their salary cut back. In 2009 and 2010 people had no idea what was ahead of them in the next couple of years, and buying toys were their last concern.
People were not buying $20K Impalas either, not because they were seriously overpriced, but because they were afraid to take on new car payments. Dealers were discounting the hell out of Impalas also(% wise, not $$$ wise) trying to move them also.
Huge discounts were available on the ZR1 because the economy crashed, not because they were seriously overpriced. Dealers stopped picking up their Corvette allocations because they knew there was little market for toys, no matter what the price is, and the bottom dropped out of production of Corvettes in Bowling Green, and a ton of UAW workers in Bowling Green got let go.
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10-26-2016, 06:45 PM
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10-26-2016, 08:58 PM
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If they take enough weight out of the car they won't have to come up with crazy HP levels. If you remember when the C7 was introduced they danced around the weight issue of the car. There was a lot of disappointment that the C7 Z06 ended up heavier than the C6 Z06. GM has had a few years to find additional weight savings for a newer model. They will put these findings into the ZR1. All the manufacturers are doing this because weight savings also brings mileage improvements.
This "ZR1" is the last arrow in the C7 quiver.
My guess is the engineering focus is being directed at the C8.