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Old 06-07-2016, 10:31 AM
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Originally Posted by Mike Campbell
I'll keep my 2014 Stingray too just like I kept my C6 "Base" even though some of my friends moved "up" to a C6 Grand Sport and loved to remind me about it. However, when they had to buy a couple sets of tires and brakes I never ever gloated.
I just bought a 2008 in 2009 with the LS3 436 HP and when the GS came out in 2010 I did not budge because my base 08 had the same motor.I will do the same again with my 2014 Z51 with the same motor as the 2017 GS BUT LET ME SAY ONE MORE TIME IF I DID NOT OWN A C7 I WOULD DEFINATELY BUY THE GS OVER THE STINGRAY EVEN WITHOUT THE INCREASED HP OVER THE STINGRAY but history has repeated itself for me again.
Old 06-07-2016, 10:35 AM
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The GS is going fill a nice niche in the Corvette portfolio. Faster on a road course track than a Stingray, although not as fast (or as expensive) as a similarly optioned Z06. Widebody styling for those who prefer that.

Basically slotting quite nicely between the Stingray and the Z06. This gives the Corvette buyer a portfolio from which to choose that makes it much easier to configure a Corvette that fits quite well what the customer wants. Pick what you like, decide what your needs are, and how you'll use the car, and grab the model that fills that role. The great thing about the C7, is that unlike the C6 which was greatly overshadowed by the GS from a styling standpoint, the Stingray is a damn hot looker in its own right. So it really will come down to what you want, how you want to use the car, and which one best fits the bill.

It's a great addition to the lineup.
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Old 06-07-2016, 10:50 AM
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they say that about every new Corvette they test! So what does this make the Z06 ? Second fiddle to the GS ? Why would anyone spend the extra money for the Z06 for a street car then? Just for bragging rights ?
The more things change, the more they stay the same!!
Old 06-07-2016, 11:39 AM
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Originally Posted by DickieDoo
they say that about every new Corvette they test!
Yup and then a few months later they'll compare it to something else and pretty much find faults with it and it will be second best to the competition....that's C&D.
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Old 06-07-2016, 12:06 PM
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Old 06-07-2016, 01:49 PM
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Originally Posted by cheapthrills
If the engine was about 550 hp non blown it would be perfect!
at least 550 but I would have to agree.
Old 06-07-2016, 04:26 PM
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Always Red Dave: I just bought a 2008 in 2009 with the LS3 436 HP and when the GS came out in 2010 I did not budge because my base 08 had the same motor.I will do the same again with my 2014 Z51 with the same motor as the 2017 GS BUT LET ME SAY ONE MORE TIME IF I DID NOT OWN A C7 I WOULD DEFINATELY BUY THE GS OVER THE STINGRAY EVEN WITHOUT THE INCREASED HP OVER THE STINGRAY but history has repeated itself for me again.
I remember with my wife and another couple in their Corvette going out to the Corvette Museum and we were there when they came out with the C6 Grand Sport. I recall my wife saying while looking up at a Jetstream Blue one on the pedestal in front of the factory that she really liked them and I did too. But I did have a really nice and good running C6 and by the time I could afford one, the Stingray came out. So even though several of my buddies have really nice GS's I'm more than pleased with my Stingray. But, like you if I were buying right now, I'd certainly would look at a C7 Grand Sport even though it's got the same LT1 engine. I do expect GM will kick the engine up a few hp in a year or two.
Old 06-07-2016, 04:33 PM
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As always the Newest vette is the best. no surprise here....

Not that their is anything wrong with a Z06 or ZR1 or older GS.....
Old 06-07-2016, 06:37 PM
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I have come to really like the GS. Although a little more HP would be nice I think the look of a Z06 without the Z06 price makes it a great car. After all as the article states, "have you ever tried to fully exploit 650 horsepower on the street for anything more than a fleeting moment".

I think the GS will sell well but how much it will canabilize Z06 sales is yet to be seen.
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Lets see this car is going to cost you at least 70-75 grand with just the average options.... and I am sure any discounts in the first year will be minimal at best... then you have a car the looks like a Z06 without the power but has this magical name "Grand Sport".... There are tons of 16 Zs in stock....do your homework find one and play hardball for the deal...you can be driving a true supercar for 80k.... but hey to each his own .. if the GS is your dream go for it
I'll make it easy; 190 HP = $14,000.
Old 06-07-2016, 07:27 PM
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Originally Posted by joeybsyc
I'll bet next year the GS will get a HP boost. People will buy them this year just because they're new, and will buy them next year when they get more HP. Just my guess.
Good guess. Typical marketing to keep production up. Also look for the ten speed automatic. 2018 GS 490 HP and ten speed automatic. If that happens count me in.
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Old 06-07-2016, 08:12 PM
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It would make sense to make the Grand Sport's horsepower in between the Stingray and the ZO6. I've done that with an exhaust, TBS and CAI. But GM should hover around 550, as previously stated in this thread.

It's cool that the magazine likes the Z51 engine so much. Makes me feel good about my purchase.
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If it were only a true wide-body…rather than 1/2 wide-body and 1/2 cheap spats. Then it would be as special as when the C6 wide-body arrived!
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Originally Posted by Steven Bell
It would make sense to make the Grand Sport's horsepower in between the Stingray and the ZO6. I've done that with an exhaust, TBS and CAI. But GM should hover around 550, as previously stated in this thread.

It's cool that the magazine likes the Z51 engine so much. Makes me feel good about my purchase.
What was the cost and HP TQ increase from your upgrades? And did you have to tune? Thanks.

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Will sales of the stingray coupe and convertible drop to a third of production when the grand sport hits full production?

1/3 rd stingray
1/3 rd grand sport
1/3 rd z06

Nice car that I believe would have been served by 500 hp....maybe when the camaro z28 debuts? The corvette grand sport will get the hp but to over 500?

That's supposed to release next year as the new camaro z28 and to differentiate from the camaro 1 LE

I could see a hotter cam and a more aggressive PCM tune.

As it is 460 hp is enough but a little more is always fun.

50 more hp than the stingray is what is needed for people to justify the new car payment...

Some will buy anyway....but more would buy with an extra 50...

Gm would not be able to keep up with production for a few years...

Maybe we will get lucky

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Chris Calloway, what's your plan?
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Originally Posted by Crossed Flags Fan
Yup and then a few months later they'll compare it to something else and pretty much find faults with it and it will be second best to the competition....that's C&D.
We need to resurrect this post in a few months when it comes true. C&D is like a hooker, they'll say anything to generate money.

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Originally Posted by rmorin1249
An article says the C7 Grand Sport is the best all-around Corvette ever. I just received my copy in the mail today.
This is a joke, right? Did they test it? And if so, what are the numbers? Did they blow-up the engine like they did with the last two Stingrays tested?

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Old 06-08-2016, 08:42 AM
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They said the same thing about the C6 GS. They may have been better on a track but they weren't on the strip.
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Originally Posted by cheapthrills
If the engine was about 550 hp non blown it would be perfect!


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