Motor Trend Z06 - Z51 Street Power Comment
03-02-2016, 04:48 PM
#21
Le Mans Master
The thing most of these virtual gear heads lack is real experience.
03-02-2016, 04:55 PM
#22
Drifting
I read the Motor Trend article on the Grand Sport offer this morning and wondered if any Z06 and Z51 drivers would care to comment on the remark that there were difficulties in putting the power down on the streets using the Z06's 650 HP. They went on to talk about a previous article (written before the GS announcement) where they speculated that the Z06 suspension setup would produce a better blend when matched with the Z51 power train.
I have not driven the Z06 yet but my Z51 has all the giddy up needed to make my heart go pitter pat. A different thread had an owner say that he believed that he would use 80% of the Z51 on the track and 60% of the Z06.
Anyone want to weigh in with your thoughts or experiences?
I have not driven the Z06 yet but my Z51 has all the giddy up needed to make my heart go pitter pat. A different thread had an owner say that he believed that he would use 80% of the Z51 on the track and 60% of the Z06.
Anyone want to weigh in with your thoughts or experiences?
The only time I have any control issues is when I try to.
03-02-2016, 05:12 PM
#24
My '16 Z51 feels fast/powerful enough for me, considering the limited opportunities for really getting on it (otherwise, I likely would have got the Z06). That said, I would be more motivated to step up to a Grandsport if it also included a significant power increase (say, 485-500hp). If only to make the car that little bit more appealing on an emotional level, which helps justifiy a trade from an otherwise perfectly fine Corvette.
Last edited by Old buckeye; 03-02-2016 at 05:13 PM.
03-02-2016, 05:14 PM
#25
I read the Motor Trend article on the Grand Sport offer this morning and wondered if any Z06 and Z51 drivers would care to comment on the remark that there were difficulties in putting the power down on the streets using the Z06's 650 HP. They went on to talk about a previous article (written before the GS announcement) where they speculated that the Z06 suspension setup would produce a better blend when matched with the Z51 power train.
I have not driven the Z06 yet but my Z51 has all the giddy up needed to make my heart go pitter pat. A different thread had an owner say that he believed that he would use 80% of the Z51 on the track and 60% of the Z06.
Anyone want to weigh in with your thoughts or experiences?
I have not driven the Z06 yet but my Z51 has all the giddy up needed to make my heart go pitter pat. A different thread had an owner say that he believed that he would use 80% of the Z51 on the track and 60% of the Z06.
Anyone want to weigh in with your thoughts or experiences?
I made sure i didn't buy a Z51 as I won't road race it (I will drag race it) and I didn't want the extra weight and the bumpier ride.
If I had to do it again I would do the exact same thing. The car drives so nice and is fast enough ( I never thought I would say that).
I have another car that is much faster so if I want to go super fast I have options.
Last edited by Mobil 1; 03-02-2016 at 05:15 PM.
03-02-2016, 05:26 PM
#26
Instructor
Why can't people just buy the car they want base C7, Z51, GS or Z06. Face it none of these cars are "practical" We would be driving a Chevy Spark if it is about power you can use on the street vs. track. I for one enjoy the 650hp and have no regrets and also understand those who opt for the base C7 Stingray. It is a matter of preference so I don't understand all the hate and options on people's choice they make and the money they spend
03-02-2016, 05:26 PM
#27
Team Owner
I can't put the power down with my 520 HP C6 Z06.
On a nice 80 degree day, with my Bridgestone tires warmed up, if I go over 3/4 throttle all it does is spin the tires to 60 MPH. And if I go 100% throttle in 2nd, it will spin the tires through most of second gear.
The C7 GS should be able to get a grip with 460 HP and sticky Michelin tires.
On a nice 80 degree day, with my Bridgestone tires warmed up, if I go over 3/4 throttle all it does is spin the tires to 60 MPH. And if I go 100% throttle in 2nd, it will spin the tires through most of second gear.
The C7 GS should be able to get a grip with 460 HP and sticky Michelin tires.
03-02-2016, 05:26 PM
#28
No you cannot get all the power of a Z51 down on the street.
I drove a 2016 Z51 on a real race-track (Summit Point). In straight track mode the traction control made the car undriveable. I turned it off, (race mode) and the car was awesome, but even when hot, the tires could not get all the power down through the turns.
I'm used to racing on full "R" tires. The Michelins were pretty good, but no, unless you are on a straight, you cannot flat-foot this car.
I drove a 2016 Z51 on a real race-track (Summit Point). In straight track mode the traction control made the car undriveable. I turned it off, (race mode) and the car was awesome, but even when hot, the tires could not get all the power down through the turns.
I'm used to racing on full "R" tires. The Michelins were pretty good, but no, unless you are on a straight, you cannot flat-foot this car.
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03-02-2016, 05:32 PM
#29
Melting Slicks
R & T came up with the same conclusion, they preferred the Z51 for the street. Z06 owners will cuss all day long and that they love all the power and would never look back. Z51 owners will claim they have all the power they need. Me, I want to be some where in the middle. Nice cam and LT's should be around 510-520 at the wheel on my 14' Z51. GM should have bumped the LT1 HP on the GS and they would have built the perfect car IMO...
I was hoping for something in the 500 HP range, thought 505 would have been a great number to land on with the new LT2
03-02-2016, 05:40 PM
#30
Melting Slicks
I can't put the power down with my 520 HP C6 Z06.
On a nice 80 degree day, with my Bridgestone tires warmed up, if I go over 3/4 throttle all it does is spin the tires to 60 MPH. And if I go 100% throttle in 2nd, it will spin the tires through most of second gear.
The C7 GS should be able to get a grip with 460 HP and sticky Michelin tires.
On a nice 80 degree day, with my Bridgestone tires warmed up, if I go over 3/4 throttle all it does is spin the tires to 60 MPH. And if I go 100% throttle in 2nd, it will spin the tires through most of second gear.
The C7 GS should be able to get a grip with 460 HP and sticky Michelin tires.
03-02-2016, 06:00 PM
#31
Team Owner
I do think the C7 GS will be able to put down the 460 HP okay. Much better than the C7 Z51 since it will 4" more rubber(335mm vs 285mm X 2).
On the street, the C7 GS is going to be very hard to beat(until it hits 120-130 MPH). On the track, it should also be very quick(unless the track has some long straights).
Last edited by JoesC5; 03-02-2016 at 06:08 PM.
03-02-2016, 06:26 PM
#33
Melting Slicks
03-02-2016, 07:06 PM
#34
Melting Slicks
You can have more fun on the street with a base stingray or Z51 than a Z06 because you can use all of the 460 HP. Other than roll racing of course..
I went from a lightly modded 490 rwhp 08 ZO6 to my stock 2015 1LT manual non Z51 and have had more fun on the street with the C7.
I went from a lightly modded 490 rwhp 08 ZO6 to my stock 2015 1LT manual non Z51 and have had more fun on the street with the C7.
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03-02-2016, 07:24 PM
#35
Le Mans Master
Next year this time we will be knee deep in the tears of first year GS buyers. IMO, next year will see the long awaited bump in base motor HP. No way GM is going this whole generation with no HP increase in their base Car like they did with the C5. The power bump will come next year. This is when I will be trading up to a C7 GS sans all the tacky aero add ons. The base GS will be the hot ride.
Last edited by 69L79; 03-02-2016 at 07:25 PM.
03-02-2016, 07:33 PM
#36
Team Owner
Next year this time we will be knee deep in the tears of first year GS buyers. IMO, next year will see the long awaited bump in base motor HP. No way GM is going this whole generation with no HP increase in their base Car like they did with the C5. The power bump will come next year. This is when I will be trading up to a C7 GS sans all the tacky aero add ons. The base GS will be the hot ride.
The C5 was selling better in it's final year(34,064 in 2004 with 350 HP) as it did in it's second year(31,084 in 1998 with 345 HP) with just a measly 5 HP increase in between those years
Last edited by JoesC5; 03-02-2016 at 07:37 PM.
03-02-2016, 07:47 PM
#38
Le Mans Master
The c5 "era" was close to 15 years ago. Very different time. Less competition. The c5 was a great seller consistently from 1998 thru 2004. Also, c5 wasn't really being pushed by Camaros/Mustangs. I'll hold off on the GS until next year.
03-02-2016, 08:31 PM
#39
More power for the GS would have motivated more buyers to open up their wallets faster...
Could have been anywhere from 500 to 525 hp...and consumers wouldn't have minded the 1300 dollar gas guzzler tax...
That said the grand sport will be plenty quick as is and will sell great.
Could have been anywhere from 500 to 525 hp...and consumers wouldn't have minded the 1300 dollar gas guzzler tax...
That said the grand sport will be plenty quick as is and will sell great.
03-02-2016, 09:46 PM
#40
Only 7/8" more rubber than a base C6 Z06(325mm), not 2", and the same as a C6 Z06 with the Z07 with 335's(but the vast majority of C6 Z06's were not Z07's).
I do think the C7 GS will be able to put down the 460 HP okay. Much better than the C7 Z51 since it will 4" more rubber(335mm vs 285mm X 2).
On the street, the C7 GS is going to be very hard to beat(until it hits 120-130 MPH). On the track, it should also be very quick(unless the track has some long straights).
I do think the C7 GS will be able to put down the 460 HP okay. Much better than the C7 Z51 since it will 4" more rubber(335mm vs 285mm X 2).
On the street, the C7 GS is going to be very hard to beat(until it hits 120-130 MPH). On the track, it should also be very quick(unless the track has some long straights).