Any supercharging regrets or horror stories?
12-17-2017, 11:48 AM
#41
Racer
My original thread pop's back to the surface..
I ended up doing the Z06. I AM NOT a guy who likes or wants to work on cars. Some of us are great at it, I'm decent but hate it. I'd rather earn money with my time and buy the pre made. Love having a warranty and all you need to do is look at the for sale cars and see Mod's brig nothing to the table at resale. Sure some modded LT1's will walk me, hell a old modded supra probably can. For me I made the right choice for myself and this is very much a what works for yourself situation.
I will say before I bought the car I thought the Z would be to much for me, I was wrong.
I ended up doing the Z06. I AM NOT a guy who likes or wants to work on cars. Some of us are great at it, I'm decent but hate it. I'd rather earn money with my time and buy the pre made. Love having a warranty and all you need to do is look at the for sale cars and see Mod's brig nothing to the table at resale. Sure some modded LT1's will walk me, hell a old modded supra probably can. For me I made the right choice for myself and this is very much a what works for yourself situation.
I will say before I bought the car I thought the Z would be to much for me, I was wrong.
12-17-2017, 11:52 AM
#42
Instructor
I'm on the fence about adding a SC, I'd go with the Procharger over the competition because a Corvette shop very close to me is a certified procharger dealer/installer and this is not a job for me. After reading this post
https://www.corvetteforum.com/forums...-and-roll.html
It really gave me the itch.
Known downside is loss of warranty.
Known upside is increase in fun factor.
I have gone back and forth on the Z06 or Callaway but the loss of value on my car plus the tax loss on the present car and new tax's on the Z make me want to wait on that. The Callaway install is just to far away and to much cost in shipping the car back and forth.
It seems to me that resale of a supercharged car my be more difficult and actually decrease the value of the car, just my perception but coming from a community of modded turbo cars, the really modded ones do not seem to sell. People put them back to stock and sell the parts for a fraction of what they paid.
So anyone have regrets after, having to be married to a local shop for issues, engines going pop, things like that.
Thoughts and stories welcome.
https://www.corvetteforum.com/forums...-and-roll.html
It really gave me the itch.
Known downside is loss of warranty.
Known upside is increase in fun factor.
I have gone back and forth on the Z06 or Callaway but the loss of value on my car plus the tax loss on the present car and new tax's on the Z make me want to wait on that. The Callaway install is just to far away and to much cost in shipping the car back and forth.
It seems to me that resale of a supercharged car my be more difficult and actually decrease the value of the car, just my perception but coming from a community of modded turbo cars, the really modded ones do not seem to sell. People put them back to stock and sell the parts for a fraction of what they paid.
So anyone have regrets after, having to be married to a local shop for issues, engines going pop, things like that.
Thoughts and stories welcome.
12-17-2017, 12:16 PM
#43
Instructor
I've seen people stating that the centris. are lower cost of entry, but don't the centri. systems cost about the same as the e-force with install?
12-17-2017, 07:05 PM
#44
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Just my observation but I read a lot of concern about bucks in your post, depreciation, resale, shipping, etc. Plus, you don't seem to be one to do much with it, maintenance-wise. Hence, I think you'd be best off driving what you have until you trade.
All imho, of course... I've seen too many people go out-on-a-limb (for them) on performance mods and regret the consequences. I recall when I was on the C5 forum some years ago a guy bemoaned turning his $55K, reasonably capable sports-car into a $75K p.i.t.a. Better luck to ya!
All imho, of course... I've seen too many people go out-on-a-limb (for them) on performance mods and regret the consequences. I recall when I was on the C5 forum some years ago a guy bemoaned turning his $55K, reasonably capable sports-car into a $75K p.i.t.a. Better luck to ya!
12-17-2017, 10:01 PM
#45
Former Vendor
I'm interested in the base AA super charger for my base C7. I like the price and they seem very service oriented and responsive. But...I worry about resale and my propensity to flip cars.
But the thought of having 530 rwhp, and a car that's actually quicker than a new Z06 is sooooo tempting. My C7 is Shark Grey so it's as stealthy as a C7 can be. And I've always been a 911 guy and NEVER had a car this fast or capable and probably never will again. Combine those things and I'm nearly there. If the shop was up the block I may have already done it.
But the thought of having 530 rwhp, and a car that's actually quicker than a new Z06 is sooooo tempting. My C7 is Shark Grey so it's as stealthy as a C7 can be. And I've always been a 911 guy and NEVER had a car this fast or capable and probably never will again. Combine those things and I'm nearly there. If the shop was up the block I may have already done it.
12-18-2017, 01:33 AM
#46
Holy bajesus that's a **** ton of money for a 627 crank hp upgrade. I guess it's like buying a Rolex vs a Timex. Timex will still give you the time, but Rolex has the brand recognition and envy factor.
I've seen people stating that the centris. are lower cost of entry, but don't the centri. systems cost about the same as the e-force with install?
I've seen people stating that the centris. are lower cost of entry, but don't the centri. systems cost about the same as the e-force with install?
12-18-2017, 01:41 AM
#47
Instructor
$10K sounds more in line. I've seen E-Force installed for just under $10K also. In fact I think Weapon X advertises installed kits for under $10K. I know the Maggie kits are a little more expensive than e-force, but way more reasonable than 18K.
12-18-2017, 06:23 PM
#48
Race Director
My last vette was a well optimized 427 C5 that made 575/530RW. I found the C7 underpowered and very soggy on the bottom compared to that. I had ECS install and tune an Eforce and couldn't be happier. Instant grunt make it a blast to drive on the street and the zero maintenance is great. With an NA build you always have some cam effect. I could drive the Eforce C7 from coast to coast without ever going into boost...but what fun would that be.
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12-19-2017, 10:54 AM
#49
Instructor
My last vette was a well optimized 427 C5 that made 575/530RW. I found the C7 underpowered and very soggy on the bottom compared to that. I had ECS install and tune an Eforce and couldn't be happier. Instant grunt make it a blast to drive on the street and the zero maintenance is great. With an NA build you always have some cam effect. I could drive the Eforce C7 from coast to coast without ever going into boost...but what fun would that be.
12-27-2017, 08:11 AM
#50
Race Director
My original thread pop's back to the surface..
I ended up doing the Z06. I AM NOT a guy who likes or wants to work on cars. Some of us are great at it, I'm decent but hate it. I'd rather earn money with my time and buy the pre made. Love having a warranty and all you need to do is look at the for sale cars and see Mod's brig nothing to the table at resale. Sure some modded LT1's will walk me, hell a old modded supra probably can. For me I made the right choice for myself and this is very much a what works for yourself situation.
I will say before I bought the car I thought the Z would be to much for me, I was wrong.
I ended up doing the Z06. I AM NOT a guy who likes or wants to work on cars. Some of us are great at it, I'm decent but hate it. I'd rather earn money with my time and buy the pre made. Love having a warranty and all you need to do is look at the for sale cars and see Mod's brig nothing to the table at resale. Sure some modded LT1's will walk me, hell a old modded supra probably can. For me I made the right choice for myself and this is very much a what works for yourself situation.
I will say before I bought the car I thought the Z would be to much for me, I was wrong.
Smart man.....best decision...
Congrats and enjoy
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12-27-2017, 08:41 AM
#51
Instructor
I had originally ordered a '19 GS Convertible, but drove a friend's limited edition GS and found I needed more. For the price of aftermarket you might as well order the factory Beast! So I cancelled the GS, and replaced it with the Zo6. I haven't driven one but am sure I won't be disappointed!
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12-27-2017, 11:23 AM
#52
Good wisdom!
After having done heavy mods on past cars, and then getting stuck on the side of the road multiple times, I’ve learned I would rather buy performance than build performance at this point.Having been blessed with ownining 2 different C7 ZO6’s (A8 & M7) and an upcoming ZR1, I can say the stress level is much lower and comfort level high with knowing any Chevy dealer can help you. Plus I’m a more aggressive driver knowing I’m not going to ‘break’ the car!
After having done heavy mods on past cars, and then getting stuck on the side of the road multiple times, I’ve learned I would rather buy performance than build performance at this point.Having been blessed with ownining 2 different C7 ZO6’s (A8 & M7) and an upcoming ZR1, I can say the stress level is much lower and comfort level high with knowing any Chevy dealer can help you. Plus I’m a more aggressive driver knowing I’m not going to ‘break’ the car!
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12-27-2017, 11:41 AM
#53
As others have mentioned, the LT1 is not as internally strong as an LT4 or LT5, and the compression ratio is too high for forced induction. Adding an aftermarket supercharger is asking for trouble. The Z06 is the right move. You can drive it hard and not worry.
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12-27-2017, 12:40 PM
#54
Premium Supporting Vendor
I'm on the fence about adding a SC, I'd go with the Procharger over the competition because a Corvette shop very close to me is a certified procharger dealer/installer and this is not a job for me. After reading this post
https://www.corvetteforum.com/forums...-and-roll.html
It really gave me the itch.
Known downside is loss of warranty.
Known upside is increase in fun factor.
I have gone back and forth on the Z06 or Callaway but the loss of value on my car plus the tax loss on the present car and new tax's on the Z make me want to wait on that. The Callaway install is just to far away and to much cost in shipping the car back and forth.
It seems to me that resale of a supercharged car my be more difficult and actually decrease the value of the car, just my perception but coming from a community of modded turbo cars, the really modded ones do not seem to sell. People put them back to stock and sell the parts for a fraction of what they paid.
So anyone have regrets after, having to be married to a local shop for issues, engines going pop, things like that.
Thoughts and stories welcome.
https://www.corvetteforum.com/forums...-and-roll.html
It really gave me the itch.
Known downside is loss of warranty.
Known upside is increase in fun factor.
I have gone back and forth on the Z06 or Callaway but the loss of value on my car plus the tax loss on the present car and new tax's on the Z make me want to wait on that. The Callaway install is just to far away and to much cost in shipping the car back and forth.
It seems to me that resale of a supercharged car my be more difficult and actually decrease the value of the car, just my perception but coming from a community of modded turbo cars, the really modded ones do not seem to sell. People put them back to stock and sell the parts for a fraction of what they paid.
So anyone have regrets after, having to be married to a local shop for issues, engines going pop, things like that.
Thoughts and stories welcome.
1. Road Race (Roots Style Supercharger)
2. Half/Quarter Straight line (Procharger)
3. I just want to get really scared when I floor it (Roots or Procharger)
For #3 I recommend a procharger set-up. Do the 8-Rib direct drive set-up and over-spec the unit and under-spin it for the time being to give yourself growing room (most people don't stop once they start).
12-27-2017, 03:16 PM
#55
Melting Slicks
Thread Starter
I had originally ordered a '19 GS Convertible, but drove a friend's limited edition GS and found I needed more. For the price of aftermarket you might as well order the factory Beast! So I cancelled the GS, and replaced it with the Zo6. I haven't driven one but am sure I won't be disappointed!
Good wisdom!
After having done heavy mods on past cars, and then getting stuck on the side of the road multiple times, I’ve learned I would rather buy performance than build performance at this point.Having been blessed with ownining 2 different C7 ZO6’s (A8 & M7) and an upcoming ZR1, I can say the stress level is much lower and comfort level high with knowing any Chevy dealer can help you. Plus I’m a more aggressive driver knowing I’m not going to ‘break’ the car!
After having done heavy mods on past cars, and then getting stuck on the side of the road multiple times, I’ve learned I would rather buy performance than build performance at this point.Having been blessed with ownining 2 different C7 ZO6’s (A8 & M7) and an upcoming ZR1, I can say the stress level is much lower and comfort level high with knowing any Chevy dealer can help you. Plus I’m a more aggressive driver knowing I’m not going to ‘break’ the car!
couldn't resist just popped into my skull but yeah who can you rely on to get the damn thing fixed when your 1,200 miles away from the guy who did it all. For me it was about the stress and comfort.
12-27-2017, 04:57 PM
#56
Naples FL
I'm on the fence about adding a SC, I'd go with the Procharger over the competition because a Corvette shop very close to me is a certified procharger dealer/installer and this is not a job for me. After reading this post
https://www.corvetteforum.com/forums...-and-roll.html
It really gave me the itch.
Known downside is loss of warranty.
Known upside is increase in fun factor.
I have gone back and forth on the Z06 or Callaway but the loss of value on my car plus the tax loss on the present car and new tax's on the Z make me want to wait on that. The Callaway install is just to far away and to much cost in shipping the car back and forth.
It seems to me that resale of a supercharged car my be more difficult and actually decrease the value of the car, just my perception but coming from a community of modded turbo cars, the really modded ones do not seem to sell. People put them back to stock and sell the parts for a fraction of what they paid.
So anyone have regrets after, having to be married to a local shop for issues, engines going pop, things like that.
Thoughts and stories welcome.
https://www.corvetteforum.com/forums...-and-roll.html
It really gave me the itch.
Known downside is loss of warranty.
Known upside is increase in fun factor.
I have gone back and forth on the Z06 or Callaway but the loss of value on my car plus the tax loss on the present car and new tax's on the Z make me want to wait on that. The Callaway install is just to far away and to much cost in shipping the car back and forth.
It seems to me that resale of a supercharged car my be more difficult and actually decrease the value of the car, just my perception but coming from a community of modded turbo cars, the really modded ones do not seem to sell. People put them back to stock and sell the parts for a fraction of what they paid.
So anyone have regrets after, having to be married to a local shop for issues, engines going pop, things like that.
Thoughts and stories welcome.
Contact Eddie or Ben at Weapon-X. You won’t regret it!
Last edited by 9157; 12-28-2017 at 07:41 PM.
12-27-2017, 05:59 PM
#57
Drifting
I wish someone would manufacture a 4.10 rear end for us...
12-27-2017, 06:28 PM
#58
Melting Slicks
Thread Starter
These are my sentiments ezackly. Lots of authors in this thread mention warranty loss, "dealership" convenience, and getting stranded... We use our c7 for interstate (mostly coast-to-coast) exclusively. I'm scared of getting stuck somewhere out of state with an aftermarket FI mod--what do I do with my "customized" engine work that doesn't work?? and I absolutely HATE the Mickey Mouse z06 plastic spats look. If only they'd have just built it with wide fenders... sigh.
I wish someone would manufacture a 4.10 rear end for us...
I wish someone would manufacture a 4.10 rear end for us...
Don't even notice them when I'm sitting with a huge smile on my face driving this beast.
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12-28-2017, 02:27 PM
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C7 of Year Finalist (performance mods) 2019
My setup was used a&a with 800 miles on it $3600, Dyno tune $1000, smaller pulley 3.8 $50 off eBay, new belt $25 off eBay, FYI wheel tool $20 off eBay , new set of plugs $ 89 Amazon. Installed myself over 3 days. Total $4784. Results 606whp, 566tq.
Very happy with not a single issue with 10k of daily driving.
Very happy with not a single issue with 10k of daily driving.
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