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Old 09-26-2015, 01:06 AM
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Default Why couldn't Chevrolet install MGW shifters at BG?

Seriously fellas, I just installed my MGW and it completely changed the feel of the car and the drivability. Best mod I have on the car. The junk I pulled out was very inferior to the MGW shifter and box I put in. I would have paid an extra $500 for Chevy to do this for me when the car was built. Seems what was in there was "just good enough".
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I have had MGW's on multiple cars over the years and I think they are amazing.

Others I have let drive my car say the MGW requires too much effort. I'm really used to it and find the positive bolt-action feel to my liking. No more missing 3rd.

The stock C7 box and shifter are identical to the C6. I had both side by side and they are the exact same.

Many who drive C7 M7's may like the feel of the factory shifter. Many don't know of the MGW and many don't want to change from stock.

The only part of the MGW I wish was different is the open shift box design. It has no back so MGW requires you put a few pieces of insulation under the shift box. Most likely because with a bottom of the shift box being open, it is more susceptible to heat. A solid box would be more ideal but there very well may be a very good reason for the way it was built.
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Cost. Every car would cost more and many are happy with the current unit.
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I think you have part of the answer and that is what is in there is good enough and of couse as Larry/Car states cost.
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Originally Posted by FRC_1
Seriously fellas, I just installed my MGW and it completely changed the feel of the car and the drivability. Best mod I have on the car. The junk I pulled out was very inferior to the MGW shifter and box I put in. I would have paid an extra $500 for Chevy to do this for me when the car was built. Seems what was in there was "just good enough".


Best mod I have had done, I now have 3000 miles on my MGW shiftier installed in my C7 Z51 M7...... I love it!
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Originally Posted by Larry/car
Cost. Every car would cost more and many are happy with the current unit.
How exactly would it be cost for everybody if it were simply made an option?
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Best mod I have had done, I now have 3000 miles on my MGW shiftier installed in my C7 Z51 M7...... I love it!

Way better than stock...wouldn't be surprised if GM had ownership interests in a lot of aftermarket companies...would be the smart play...
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If GM thinks they could make money on it by selling enough of them and the cost is low enough, they can do it. They had Hurst shifters in the past. They have Brembo brakes now.

It would have to pass durability and safety requirements. It also sounds like it needs some more engineering if you have to add pieces of insulation.

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Originally Posted by FRC_1
Seriously fellas, I just installed my MGW and it completely changed the feel of the car and the drivability. Best mod I have on the car. The junk I pulled out was very inferior to the MGW shifter and box I put in. I would have paid an extra $500 for Chevy to do this for me when the car was built. Seems what was in there was "just good enough".
MGW's price is $390 or $360 on their web site, so your time plus their price is probably the equivalent of paying $500 to the factory. However, the wholesale price to GM would have to be a good deal under $390 or $360 to work out to a sticker price of $500.

While nice, Corvettes are mass produced items, and each added option adds complexity to the whole assembly/supply process. It's simpler to do your own customization, I think.
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.....they wanted to throw a bone to the aftermarket guys??????
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Do you have any photos of the shifter you want to share? Any thoughts on getting the shifter but use a different shift ****?
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Way too many people would complain about the "high shift effort". There are a lot of old guys who buy Vettes......
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MGW might not have the production capacity to meet the demand if it were a factory option. Also, to be a supplier to a big company like GM requires a lot more than just building parts. They might need to spend a year's worth of revenue on lawyers to review the contract, factory upgrades and staff increases to satisfy GM's supplier processes and QC/QA standards, accountants, and on and on.
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I actually don't like how the MGW shifter looks. The huge 8 ball looks kind of bizarre to me.

With that said, I don't mind the stock shifter, and have never missed a gear after maybe 500 miles. I wish I had a friend with one though, because I would love to see what the difference actually is!

So many people claim that the difference between the MGW and the stock shifter are like night and day. It's easy to say, but hard for me to determine what that actually means on just words alone. Wish they had em at Best Buy or something so I could try it out.
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Yesterday I watched the how-to video one of the other brands had posted showing how to install their shifter. I have to say that even though I am not much of a wrench turner it looked like something I could probably do myself if I were so inclined. Or, its easy enough that even if you were paying someone to do it, it wouldn't cost that much.

What I'm getting at is that knowing the prices Chevy charges for options, it seems pretty likely that an owner could get this done cheaper in the after market. Also, there are other options besides the MGW so going after market also gives more options than they would offer.

Just a thought...

Edit: Here it is. See post #26 on page 2 https://www.corvetteforum.com/forums...-it-out-2.html

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I've never used an aftermarket shifter. Can anyone who has actually explain in detail what the difference usually is?

My understanding just seems to be that because it takes more force to shift, it prevents people from shifting with minimal force into the wrong gear. In what objective manner is it "better?"
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Originally Posted by meyerweb
MGW might not have the production capacity to meet the demand if it were a factory option. Also, to be a supplier to a big company like GM requires a lot more than just building parts. They might need to spend a year's worth of revenue on lawyers to review the contract, factory upgrades and staff increases to satisfy GM's supplier processes and QC/QA standards, accountants, and on and on.
I highly doubt this would be the case. Show me a business who will not enter a lucrative deal where money was to be made because of such reasons as you cite above and I'll show you a business that will soon be bankrupt!

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It's harder than you think, defairia. Ever work in a small business trying to grow very rapidly? That's when a lot of them fail.
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Have seen videos of MGW in action.Have also seen video's of other after market shifters.
MGW isn't A shorter throw than the others.The stock shifter isn't as bad as people say that
It is.At least mine isn't.
Before you purchase just look at all the video's of the other shifters.
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I am a small business trying to grow rapidly. Hard was not the issue. Sure it's hard. But I'm sure they would do it if given the chance.


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