When is GM planning to offer Hybrid (Electric) Corvette?
06-15-2015, 03:20 PM
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Awesome fleet! I almost pulled the trigger on a Volt which would have my garage resembling yours, but decided it was too soon for an EV.
At the rate of current progress in EV R&D, I will wait for a few more years until the market offers a 30k vehicle with an electric range of at least 200 if not 300 miles....
06-15-2015, 07:43 PM
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06-15-2015, 08:54 PM
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You can't tell me GM is not working on a concept electric Corvette. Check this out from Japan. All that holds these vehicles from being on the production line is the battery technology.
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06-15-2015, 09:52 PM
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Perhaps with the C8 a hybrid will be offered. As long as it has cutting edge technology and performance to keep it competitive with the top sports cars, I'd be happy.
06-15-2015, 10:36 PM
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Ferrari offered one model (La Ferrari) that was a hybrid and it was a special limited production vehicle that was never available for purchase to even people who could afford it.
Porsche does not offer a 911, boxster, or cayman hybrid and still hasn't even confirmed that one will be available in the next generation. I would hardly call the Panamera and cayenne sports cars.
Tesla has never made a hybrid, and hasn't produced a sports car since 2012. They also have no plans to offer one in the near future either. I'm sure Musk would have told us about it if there was since he seems to announce cars 2 to 3 years before they are ready for production.
McLaren....same story as the La Ferrari.
Audi has never and still doesn't offer a hybrid sports car. Closest thing is the yet to be released R8 e-tron which is fully electric, not a hybrid.
So other than the two $1+ million cars from Ferrari and McLaren there are no hybrid sports cars out there that the corvette needs to compete with. Hybridization will add compexity and a ton of cost to the Corvette which is kind of the anti-thesis of the Corvette's essence. Corvettes have always been very affordable and made their power with large NA V8 engines. The corvette (and even more so the Dodge Viper) is a brute force car and not a machine of technical wizardry. It has definitely improved in the technical department, but I still wouldn't say that it is what defines the car.
Besides all of that, there is no reason for Chevy to make a hybrid vette. The other manufacturers need hybridization to meet CAFE regulations because they don't sell 100 malibus for every sports car they sell. If your ferrari and your "good" gas mileage cars get 14 mpg then you need hybridization. If anything, I'd expect to see a turbo corvette long before a hybrid.
06-15-2015, 10:51 PM
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06-16-2015, 12:59 AM
#31
I've yet to see ANY hybrid* car with a manual transmission.
*Factory made not kit or retrofit stuff. Since there was a company that retrofitted a C6 Z06 with an added electric motor but to bump power to ~700 HP, not tuned for fuel economy. Was never available to public, so it was a one off.
*Factory made not kit or retrofit stuff. Since there was a company that retrofitted a C6 Z06 with an added electric motor but to bump power to ~700 HP, not tuned for fuel economy. Was never available to public, so it was a one off.
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06-16-2015, 09:19 AM
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Not so sure on your statement there.
Ferrari offered one model (La Ferrari) that was a hybrid and it was a special limited production vehicle that was never available for purchase to even people who could afford it.
Porsche does not offer a 911, boxster, or cayman hybrid and still hasn't even confirmed that one will be available in the next generation. I would hardly call the Panamera and cayenne sports cars.
Tesla has never made a hybrid, and hasn't produced a sports car since 2012. They also have no plans to offer one in the near future either. I'm sure Musk would have told us about it if there was since he seems to announce cars 2 to 3 years before they are ready for production.
McLaren....same story as the La Ferrari.
Audi has never and still doesn't offer a hybrid sports car. Closest thing is the yet to be released R8 e-tron which is fully electric, not a hybrid.
So other than the two $1+ million cars from Ferrari and McLaren there are no hybrid sports cars out there that the corvette needs to compete with. Hybridization will add compexity and a ton of cost to the Corvette which is kind of the anti-thesis of the Corvette's essence. Corvettes have always been very affordable and made their power with large NA V8 engines. The corvette (and even more so the Dodge Viper) is a brute force car and not a machine of technical wizardry. It has definitely improved in the technical department, but I still wouldn't say that it is what defines the car.
Besides all of that, there is no reason for Chevy to make a hybrid vette. The other manufacturers need hybridization to meet CAFE regulations because they don't sell 100 malibus for every sports car they sell. If your ferrari and your "good" gas mileage cars get 14 mpg then you need hybridization. If anything, I'd expect to see a turbo corvette long before a hybrid.
Ferrari offered one model (La Ferrari) that was a hybrid and it was a special limited production vehicle that was never available for purchase to even people who could afford it.
Porsche does not offer a 911, boxster, or cayman hybrid and still hasn't even confirmed that one will be available in the next generation. I would hardly call the Panamera and cayenne sports cars.
Tesla has never made a hybrid, and hasn't produced a sports car since 2012. They also have no plans to offer one in the near future either. I'm sure Musk would have told us about it if there was since he seems to announce cars 2 to 3 years before they are ready for production.
McLaren....same story as the La Ferrari.
Audi has never and still doesn't offer a hybrid sports car. Closest thing is the yet to be released R8 e-tron which is fully electric, not a hybrid.
So other than the two $1+ million cars from Ferrari and McLaren there are no hybrid sports cars out there that the corvette needs to compete with. Hybridization will add compexity and a ton of cost to the Corvette which is kind of the anti-thesis of the Corvette's essence. Corvettes have always been very affordable and made their power with large NA V8 engines. The corvette (and even more so the Dodge Viper) is a brute force car and not a machine of technical wizardry. It has definitely improved in the technical department, but I still wouldn't say that it is what defines the car.
Besides all of that, there is no reason for Chevy to make a hybrid vette. The other manufacturers need hybridization to meet CAFE regulations because they don't sell 100 malibus for every sports car they sell. If your ferrari and your "good" gas mileage cars get 14 mpg then you need hybridization. If anything, I'd expect to see a turbo corvette long before a hybrid.
Here is a link for more information on hybrid sports cars including Porsche 918 Spyder, Tesla S P85D, and Audi R8 e-tron.
http://classicautomobiles.info/ferrari-laferrari.htm
Last edited by ali1951; 06-16-2015 at 10:50 AM.
06-16-2015, 10:07 AM
#35
I think a hybrid Corvette built with the same purpose as the LaFerrari, P1, and 918 would be awesome. However, I think we're still a long ways from seeing one actually hit production. I doubt we see one in the C8 generation, but maybe by the C9 generation costs will have gone down enough to add it to the Corvette.
06-16-2015, 10:10 AM
#36
I think a hybrid Corvette built with the same purpose as the LaFerrari, P1, and 918 would be awesome. However, I think we're still a long ways from seeing one actually hit production. I doubt we see one in the C8 generation, but maybe by the C9 generation costs will have gone down enough to add it to the Corvette.
06-16-2015, 10:53 AM
#37
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Or at least until its what I would call a "real" technology. Hybrids by nature are half way, interim solutions.
The current generation of all electric cars - including the Tesla - aren't half way in that they are all electric but they still have range limitations and when the juice runs out, where do you charge it? A model S could theoretically work as my daily commuter car since it has a range of 240 miles. But what if you want to take it on a trip away from home? Looking at their map of "super charger"stations they seem to be all along the major interstates...mostly. But if you want to cross Nebraska? There is one in Omaha and then nothing else until you get to Colorado so you won't get far. Basically unless you are going to very carefully plan your trip around charger locations, you are going to be pretty much restricted to your home area.
So this is an area where I am very pleased to not have the Corvette be at the bleeding edge of technology. Electric motors actually have a lot of advantages for a sports car but until the range and charging issues are solved and electric cars become main stream, please keep them out of my Corvette.
06-16-2015, 10:57 AM
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06-16-2015, 11:03 AM
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Or at least until its what I would call a "real" technology. Hybrids by nature are half way, interim solutions.
The current generation of all electric cars - including the Tesla - aren't half way in that they are all electric but they still have range limitations and when the juice runs out, where do you charge it? A model S could theoretically work as my daily commuter car since it has a range of 240 miles. But what if you want to take it on a trip away from home? Looking at their map of "super charger"stations they seem to be all along the major interstates...mostly. But if you want to cross Nebraska? There is one in Omaha and then nothing else until you get to Colorado so you won't get far. Basically unless you are going to very carefully plan your trip around charger locations, you are going to be pretty much restricted to your home area.
So this is an area where I am very pleased to not have the Corvette be at the bleeding edge of technology. Electric motors actually have a lot of advantages for a sports car but until the range and charging issues are solved and electric cars become main stream, please keep them out of my Corvette.
06-16-2015, 01:01 PM
#40
Melting Slicks
I've yet to see ANY hybrid* car with a manual transmission.
*Factory made not kit or retrofit stuff. Since there was a company that retrofitted a C6 Z06 with an added electric motor but to bump power to ~700 HP, not tuned for fuel economy. Was never available to public, so it was a one off.
*Factory made not kit or retrofit stuff. Since there was a company that retrofitted a C6 Z06 with an added electric motor but to bump power to ~700 HP, not tuned for fuel economy. Was never available to public, so it was a one off.
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