C7 hp vs ZO6 hp @ 1st Vette
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C7 hp vs ZO6 hp @ 1st Vette
I am going to order a 16 and was wondering if I will be happy with the regular c7 power vs the zo6? Yes, the money is an issue with me and if it wasn't, then it would be a no brainer and I would order the zo6. Being a lunch box, working stiff my whole life, I finally want to order the car that I have all ways wanted, but with my budget being around 70k, the zo6 would really be stretching it. I figured after putting three kids thru college and paying for two weddings, it's time to treat myself!
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Unless you're planning on racing it competitively on a regular basis the Stingray will have all the power you need or likely want on the street. It's plenty fast enough for me and I tend to always want, "more," of everything. It accelerates so fact you can go from 0 to jail time before you know it!
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Unless you're planning on racing it competitively on a regular basis the Stingray will have all the power you need or likely want on the street. It's plenty fast enough for me and I tend to always want, "more," of everything. It accelerates so fact you can go from 0 to jail time before you know it!
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Burning Brakes
I don't know what you are driving today but I'll expect that 460 HP is more than an adequate step-up. If it is not, you can add more power later.
#5
I suggest you test drive each. I'm not embarrassed to say the Z was too much car for me. I guess I don't drive well enough to understand how to get all that power to the road in a useful way. It's just excessive. Do yourself a favor and look through the new car buying posts in the sticky threads on constraints etc. It makes a big difference in when you get your car.
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Drifting
Unless you're planning on racing it competitively on a regular basis the Stingray will have all the power you need or likely want on the street. It's plenty fast enough for me and I tend to always want, "more," of everything. It accelerates so fact you can go from 0 to jail time before you know it!
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Cuds33
Sounds like we are about in the same situation. I ordered a black couple with black interior, automatic trans, npp exhaust, chrome wheel, 1lt pkg,with z51 spoiler. Price is $60,000 + change....which includes tax and all fees. But allot of people tell me if they bought a Vette they would get the zo6!! Well it's not their Vette and their not ordering one anytime soon. I know I will enjoy this car and I will never track the car so why buy a co6. I didn't even get the z51 pkg....don't need dry sump,mag ride,etc...by the way...I should be picking mine up an a couple weeks.
Sounds like we are about in the same situation. I ordered a black couple with black interior, automatic trans, npp exhaust, chrome wheel, 1lt pkg,with z51 spoiler. Price is $60,000 + change....which includes tax and all fees. But allot of people tell me if they bought a Vette they would get the zo6!! Well it's not their Vette and their not ordering one anytime soon. I know I will enjoy this car and I will never track the car so why buy a co6. I didn't even get the z51 pkg....don't need dry sump,mag ride,etc...by the way...I should be picking mine up an a couple weeks.
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Le Mans Master
You don't need that much power. I'd say get a Z51 optioned up exactly as you want it. The extra power is nice, but definitely not necessary. Even if you plan on tracking the car extensively I'd still go for the Z51. You'll have a lot more fun pushing that car and your limits, AND it's going to last a lot longer and not overheat like so many Z06s are. Not to mention the extra money you'll have.
I would go non-Z06 no question. Just my $0.02.
Either way, good luck and be sure to keep us updated
Edit: Should you ever want more power you can always upgrade the car too.
I would go non-Z06 no question. Just my $0.02.
Either way, good luck and be sure to keep us updated
Edit: Should you ever want more power you can always upgrade the car too.
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460 hp is enough for the street and your budget.
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The standard car is fast, rides good, handles well and is good looking. What more do you need? It will outperform 95% of the cars on the road today, costs less than most of the high performance European cars, looks better than the Japanese cars.
And with $70,000 to spend you can load it up nicely, my listed for about $62,500 and I paid $56,500 for it, plus taxes and other small fees. If you are a member of a credit union you might check on the GM site to see if you are eligible for the discount, it will save you up to 9% or so off of sticker. Or check Kerbeck Corvette in Atlantic City, NJ, they are the largest Corvette Dealer in the world and they discount deep with their in stock cars, as do a few other Corvette dealers. That will help to stretch your dollar and get you more car for that same $70,000. By the way the Z06 is not eligible for the credit union discount...and if you are not gong to track it why would you need 650 hp? Very few people can put the 460 hp of the "Base" car on the ground, and there are big tickets for those who try it and get caught. The car is quick, comfy and more than most will ever need.
And with $70,000 to spend you can load it up nicely, my listed for about $62,500 and I paid $56,500 for it, plus taxes and other small fees. If you are a member of a credit union you might check on the GM site to see if you are eligible for the discount, it will save you up to 9% or so off of sticker. Or check Kerbeck Corvette in Atlantic City, NJ, they are the largest Corvette Dealer in the world and they discount deep with their in stock cars, as do a few other Corvette dealers. That will help to stretch your dollar and get you more car for that same $70,000. By the way the Z06 is not eligible for the credit union discount...and if you are not gong to track it why would you need 650 hp? Very few people can put the 460 hp of the "Base" car on the ground, and there are big tickets for those who try it and get caught. The car is quick, comfy and more than most will ever need.
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how do you want to drive the car? cruising and stomp on gas from time-to-time to pass on the highway, or wind it out in every gear? (if you're getting an A8 then quit reading now.) if it's the latter, you're going to run into issues with the car being too powerful. yes, too powerful. i like to wring a car out in each gear as I accelerate faster and faster. i find the C7 to be incredibly frustrating to drive like that because if you wind out 3rd on city streets and get caught, you're going to jail. my enjoyment and thrills are limited since in order to stay reasonably legal on the streets, you're shutting it down only seconds after opening it up.
i honestly think that sometimes i'd be happier in a lower HP car that feels like it's at the limit at much lower speeds, but goddamnit if the C7 doesn't look amazing and is a well put together machine.
i honestly think that sometimes i'd be happier in a lower HP car that feels like it's at the limit at much lower speeds, but goddamnit if the C7 doesn't look amazing and is a well put together machine.
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Most all of the posts say that 460 hp is enough. I agree with that. However, post this same thread in the Z06 subforum and I think you'll get a very different set of responses. I bought my 14 C7 vert in February 14, quite a while before the C7 Z06 came out, much less the C7 Z06 vert. If I had to make the choice now, I'm not sure which way I'd go.
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Most all of the posts say that 460 hp is enough. I agree with that. However, post this same thread in the Z06 subforum and I think you'll get a very different set of responses. I bought my 14 C7 vert in February 14, quite a while before the C7 Z06 came out, much less the C7 Z06 vert. If I had to make the choice now, I'm not sure which way I'd go.
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Most all of the posts say that 460 hp is enough. I agree with that. However, post this same thread in the Z06 subforum and I think you'll get a very different set of responses. I bought my 14 C7 vert in February 14, quite a while before the C7 Z06 came out, much less the C7 Z06 vert. If I had to make the choice now, I'm not sure which way I'd go.
Till then, a Z51 equipped Corvette is more then a match for me.
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Melting Slicks
In my opinion, the LT1 C7 is at the point where it's not just fast but is kinda spooky. As already sort of mentioned, it's fast enough to be frustrating. You can't properly give it hell without the possibility of a felony stop. Sure, there are faster cars, but unless your last car had similar power you'll be plenty happy with 460 HP. A boat load of low end torque too. If that ever becomes insufficient you can toss a ~$6k supercharger kit on it and be spooked again.
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I agree with those that say the 460HP stingray is more than powerful enough for street use, and would be a heck of a lot of fun for an autocross or a club track day event. Even the non Z51 version, although if you plan to track the car very much then the Z51 is worth the extra cost, but if budget matters the base version is plenty of fun for quite a bit less money.
Last week, I took a coworker who drives a BMW M4 with a Dinan stage 1 tune (about 525 HP, I think he said) for a ride. His reaction was something like "Holy ****, my BMW is fast but it doesn't hit like this!"
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I think green hit it. What are you used to? If you're coming from something like a Dodge Charger with the big hemi, and expecting a big jump in how fast the car feels, you're not going to get it. If you're coming from a Toyota Camry, the 'vette is going to feel like it's flying.
I agree with those that say the 460HP stingray is more than powerful enough for street use, and would be a heck of a lot of fun for an autocross or a club track day event. Even the non Z51 version, although if you plan to track the car very much then the Z51 is worth the extra cost, but if budget matters the base version is plenty of fun for quite a bit less money.
Last week, I took a coworker who drives a BMW M4 with a Dinan stage 1 tune (about 525 HP, I think he said) for a ride. His reaction was something like "Holy ****, my BMW is fast but it doesn't hit like this!"
I agree with those that say the 460HP stingray is more than powerful enough for street use, and would be a heck of a lot of fun for an autocross or a club track day event. Even the non Z51 version, although if you plan to track the car very much then the Z51 is worth the extra cost, but if budget matters the base version is plenty of fun for quite a bit less money.
Last week, I took a coworker who drives a BMW M4 with a Dinan stage 1 tune (about 525 HP, I think he said) for a ride. His reaction was something like "Holy ****, my BMW is fast but it doesn't hit like this!"
It's not all about the HP. But yes, 460-500 is plenty for street use. Don't get caught up in the HP wars. It's not worth the time or effort you will spend trying to get the car to hook and keep traction..
I don't even want to know what it would be like in a 0-60 2.5 (Spyder) second car. The Mustang's 4.6 second 0-60 time is already pretty amazing and yeah, i've been spooked by it a couple of times before I got used to it.
There will always be someone faster, but for daily use, you'll be outgunning 98% of the cars and trucks on the road. On our ride back from Charlotte this weekend I got trapped in the left lane behind a guy who was just sitting there going below the speed limit. After about a mile I had an opening and didn't even punch it. I was up to 110mph in the blink of an eye and my wife giggled the whole time as we were both thrown back into the seats. So even at a few hundred pounds heavier and 420hp on tap, there's still plenty of fun to be had, but not a whole lot of it is strictly legal.
What bothers me most is the amount of effort I have to put into keeping the car at reasonable speeds. She always wants to go faster and would probably be quite happy cruising at 120 or so.
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