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Old 05-23-2015, 02:17 PM
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Default Will Z51 guys buy the same runflat tires to replace current ones?

Curious if you guys plan to stay with the same tire when it's time for new rubber. I know they are suppose to be a good tire but are there better choices out there and are you willing to give up the security of the runflat? I myself am on the fence. I wanted to also switch to a 295 rear tire but I don't think it's possible on stock rims

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Originally Posted by LS WON
Nothing crazy about the OP's post. So, I dont understand the comment.

I'm guessing that perhaps someone else made and then deleted a response to the OP and that it was that deleted post that you were actually commenting on??
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When the time comes I will see what is out there and act accordingly (Now driving a 15 Vert z51). I live out a ways in the mountains and am approaching 70 one thing for certain I will stay with some sort of run flat!

When I had to put new shoes on my 07 Z06 I did DD and went with a Firestone RF product. I found it much quieter, better traction and much better in wet/colder weather than the OEM Bad years.

.FWIW the OEMS were done at 11,000 miles and the Firestones were still legal and working well at over 14,000 miles.

Like I said I live in the twisty mountains and enjoy what a Vette is good for when safe to do so!
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Originally Posted by B747VET
Nothing crazy about the OP's post. So, I dont understand the comment.

I'm guessing that perhaps someone else made and then deleted a response to the OP and that it was that deleted post that you were actually commenting on??
lol no, his was first. I didn't understand it either.
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Originally Posted by thegame
Curious if you guys plan to stay with the same tire when it's time for new rubber. I know they are suppose to be a good tire but are there better choices out there and are you willing to give up the security of the runflat? I myself am on the fence. I wanted to also switch to a 295 rear tire but I don't think it's possible on stock rims
I don't believe that in terms of summer high performance street tires there is any tire that beats the Michelin PSS non-RF tires in terms of the price/value, handling, longevity, and ride quality.

When I switched our C5 to the PSS non-RFs from Michelin RFs, the car's ride and handling transformed from very good to excellent.

I can easily understand that folks who frequently drive long distances in the boonies might feel better with RFs, but here in California I see zero need to take the rougher ride and poorer handling of an RF tire because of the once in 10 or 20 year possibility of an actual full blowout.

We drove from L.A. To Monterey and back with a nail in one PSS tire and only had to stop twice to add a little air before having it professionally repaired after returning to L.A. We carry a professional level repair kit and pump just in case but in four years and 15,000 miles on these PSS tires have yet to need it, despite three different nail-in-tire occurances. Just in case we do also carry the AAA 100 mile tow coverage.

I should add that despite numerous cross nation drives, I have never had anything but a slow leak on any tire on any car since the 1960's. RFs exist because there are no spare tires in most modern high performance cars, not because there is high probability of being stranded with these modern tires.

When we replace the PS2 RFs on our 2013 CTS V we will go with PSS non-RFs. We will soon order a 2016 Z51 and will also go with PSS non-RFs on the C7 as soon as possible.

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There is no better tire than the run flat Michelin. My 12 Grand Sport had Goodyears. I'm happy with what is on my 14. Don't understand why some are not happy with a high performance tire. This is a sports car, not a family/ATV. Is someone suggesting a non run flat, non Michelin is better? Which one and why. Not talking all weather tire. Just road hugging run flay.
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Originally Posted by 6spdC6
When the time comes I will see what is out there and act accordingly (Now driving a 15 Vert z51). I live out a ways in the mountains and am approaching 70 one thing for certain I will stay with some sort of run flat!

When I had to put new shoes on my 07 Z06 I did DD and went with a Firestone RF product. I found it much quieter, better traction and much better in wet/colder weather than the OEM Bad years.

.FWIW the OEMS were done at 11,000 miles and the Firestones were still legal and working well at over 14,000 miles.

Like I said I live in the twisty mountains and enjoy what a Vette is good for when safe to do so!
Actually, Bridgestone is the maker of run flat tires for the C6 Z06 and I have close to 30,000 miles on mine with 5/32" tread remaining(50%) with 4/32" to the wear bars.

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Originally Posted by JoesC5
Actually, Bridgestone is the maker of run flat tires for the C6 Z06 and I have close to 30,000 miles on mine with 5/32" tread remaining(50%) with4/32" to the wear bars.
You are correct. I went with the parent company.
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I will replace mine with the same OEM tires.
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Am I correct in saying you cannot order the same tire OEM in a 295 size?? Can anyone conform if a 295 will fit insteads of the 285?
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Originally Posted by thegame
Curious if you guys plan to stay with the same tire when it's time for new rubber. I know they are suppose to be a good tire but are there better choices out there and are you willing to give up the security of the runflat? I myself am on the fence. I wanted to also switch to a 295 rear tire but I don't think it's possible on stock rims
Im not smarter than the GM and Michelin engineers so I figure I'll stay with them. They work well and wear well.
What are the "better" choices?
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I've driven the last 5 years on a car with no spare and no runflats. I might do it again when the stock tires on the 'vette are worn out. And I've ridden motorcycles without spares for some 40 years, including cross country and other long distance rides.

I'm OK with carrying a flat repair kit (pump, plugs, gummy worms and slime). The one thing missing from the 'vette, though, is a jack. Were I going on a trip without runflats, I'd want to carry a small bottle or scissor jack, too. Finding and patching a tire off the car is one thing. Lying on the shoulder of the road trying to find and repair a puncture is something else entirely.

Truth be told, even with runflats I'll probably carry a repair kit and jack if I take long trips in the Stingray. There are a great many places were you can be a lot more than 50 miles from someplace that can replace one of our tires.

As far as "better choices", there are tires that are stickier, tires that last longer, and tires that ride better / are much quieter. Not all in one tire, of course, but different owners have different priorities. If I were going to be driving on a cross country adventure, I'd probably be happy to have a longer wearing, quieter tire, even at the expense of ultimate handling.

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I'll wait to see how long the OEM tires last and whether they get noisy, hard etc. Even though mine are fair weather cars, it is runored that Michelin is developing a new AS so by the time I need tires I'll see what's available out there. I run Hankooks now on my C5 and they are one heck of a tire - good grip, smooth and above all they are quiet.

I can say after coming back from Spring Mountain, the Michelin OEM tire is superb, maybe the best out there for this car in a performance environment. That's not what I use my car for so I'm open to other good alternatives when the time comes.
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I'd like a wider tire so the wheels/tires are flush with the car. I don't want to run spacers, so that's what I'll be looking for.
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I am very satisfied with these Mich's. I think they are great tires. I will definitely replace with the same tire.
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Tire Rack has 12 tires in the OEM Z51 sizes. Only one, the Michelin SS ZP, is a runflat. The others are can be found at this link:

http://www.tirerack.com/tires/TireSe...SortCode=60100

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I'll probably go with the non-runflat version of the OEM tire. They are lighter and $350 cheaper.
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Originally Posted by thegame
Curious if you guys plan to stay with the same tire when it's time for new rubber. I know they are suppose to be a good tire but are there better choices out there and are you willing to give up the security of the runflat? I myself am on the fence. I wanted to also switch to a 295 rear tire but I don't think it's possible on stock rims
I have a 2007 vy very,z-51. Bought my car with 5000 miles on it.coming out of the garage or turning wheels hard at slow movement tires pinch jerked a lot, me thinking wide tires just natural. Took car to get inspected at 18000 miles my back tires looked new. The front insides where showing all metal.Bought Firestone run flats and lord what a difference, very much smoother and much quieter. Seems it was a different car.
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Originally Posted by Jay_Davis
I'll probably go with the non-runflat version of the OEM tire. They are lighter and $350 cheaper.
Agreed.

In cooler weather, I run the non run-flat Michelin Pilot Sport A/S III's. I just switched back to the OEM Michelin Pilot Super Sport Run Flats. Although ultimate grip might be a tad more, the comparison made it clear that noise and ride softness was quit noticeable worse than the non run flats.

When I burn through the OEM tires, replacements are likely to be the non run-flat version of the Michelin Pilot Super Sports.


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