Jay_Davis

Exactly. Now the manual does say to use a different oil than stock for track use, so if the standard oil was being used, I don't know what their stance would be.

kp

All depends how the OP stated his case to the dealer.

If the car was towed from a race track to the dealer they are going to assume he was racing the car. Generally thats whats done on a race track.

You can explain to GM that you werent 'really' racing the car, most likely they arent listening. The people making the decision are probably not racers/enthusiasts and they may need to be educated as to whats going on. Of course good luck getting someone at GM with any real authority to listen isnt easy.

IMO if there was no fire then it wouldnt be a big issue, depending how bad the fire was it could really turn into a large and complicated repair thats beyond what most dealer people can handle. That alone may be the delay and have nothing to with the car being on a race track.

Snorman

I was there as well. I walked over and was talking to JD when you came in off the track from the T4 flagstand. I 'thought' somebody told me that the failure was related to the brake line on the right side, not a blown engine. Obviously that wasn't accurate. Good luck with GM. As I recall that was early Saturday.

For anybody wondering, as long as the OP is who he claims, he was with a few other cars at RR when this happened and it was a legit failure at the track. I walked over to see the car because a friend of mine who organized the event told me there was a C7 that broke on-track.
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Steve_R

Perhaps I've missed it as I've not read all 11 pages, but the OP keeps saying he was going 98 mph when it blew up. That means nothing. What was the engine RPM when it let go? That's far more meaningful than ground speed. Does the car in question have a manual or auto trans?

LT1xL82

Now that is interesting. Do they know the car was on a track? My understanding is that with the VAST majority of automobile policies coverage stops the moment the car is on the track surface...regardless if it was actually entered into a race or not.

oyealiz

Track mode.

oyealiz

Yeah that would make sense. Make a car like a Vette and void the warranty if you dare put it on a track.

RicK T

He posted several times it's an A6.

runutzzzzz

He's talking about automobile insurance. Yes, they would deny your insurance claim if you were on a track.

As far as warranty on the track, I remember something about Tadge or someone saying that the car was designed for track use and the warranty was valid as long as the guidelines were followed.

Crossed Flags Fan

YES>

Gadfly

Not true, a driver's education event is not a race, or a competitive event. It is driver's education, even your insurance is valid at an HPDE where it is not at any type of race.

Steve_R

Thanks.

Has he said what RPM it was at when it let go?

oyealiz

Oh, ok, thanks! I must not have read closely enough. Yes, insurance won't covered accept under very restrictive conditions. For instance, a driver training event they might cover.

AORoads

I think WaltWhiteCoupe is right: this will take a lot of patience on your part, snip. But I do think GM will come through in the end.

I can't imagine how replacing "only" the engine will solve the car's problems however. It's a mess from the fire. For that reason, I would be surprised if the offer of an engine is the only thing being contemplated by GM---this is more like a partial- or whole-car replacement. But that's just my guess and I am not in any warranty, legal or parts department ().

As to being at an educational driving program, the average customer service department will interpret it as "racing." Digging into the company will find people who understand what a program like that really is. It's good to have the instructor right next to you, too, since s/he can corroborate the car's condition at the time of the engine letting go.

Good luck.

jsdanehy

To determine applicable insurance coverage for the physical damage you need to be reading the policy not guessing. Each policy MAY read differently. Often the wording is COMPETITION or RACING as the excluded activities.

Not sure how the owner would frame his activities. Doing laps on a track for amusement could be classified as not engaging in RACING or COMPETITION. At least that would be my approach if I represented the owner.

The wording in the policy is critical and nobody reading this thread except the owner knows what is in the policy that covers the car.

While a rod may have been "thrown" that could be covered under warrant subject to the above comments. The ensuing fire would certainly be covered by the COMPREHENSIVE section of the policy. Subject to the possible exclusion. Where the wording is vague or ambiguous then it is construed AGAINST the company that wrote the policy.

I own a C7 and I baby it. I owned a C5 and after 10 years and 52,000 miles it never saw 90. At 76 years old I enjoy cruising. It would have been nice to have these "wheels" when I was chasing chicks 50 or 60 years ago. I wonder what you do when you have the seats that you have in a modern Corvette ? That would be my concern

JSD
Cincinnati, Ohio

barryh

Improvise, adapt, over---come!

Walt White Coupe

I attended a two day "High Performance Driving School" at Pocono Raceway and my insurance gave 10% off my insurance for the next three years because it was considered driver training that qualified for the reduction. So it depends a lot on the specific insurance company.

rramjet

Guess I'll be doing some intense research into warranty and insurance coverage before I take my 2015 Z51 Coupe for a drivers course I was thinking about in Las Vegas.

Monaco335

subscribed.

I frequent several tracks near the Chicago area and I am rather interested in the cause of this. Please post GM's findings.

Hopefully GM covers it. Reading some of the prior comments from trolls, people who have never tracked or attended HPDE, and lots of assumptions and speculation... it's a bit infuriating to read since you came on here simply asking for help. Hope it works out in the end and is an isolated issue.

Also to board members, please post facts and not assumptions. Insurance (Farmers, State Farm, Geico) does NOT cover HPDE accidents if they find out you were driving the car "outside of normal driving conditions" at a track. I've called and asked several companies since I'm at the track ~12 times a year for the past 5 years. This is why tracks offer one day race insurance.

Jay_Davis

Not true. Most of the companies I've talked to will not cover you at all if you are on a track for any reason, not even for an extra fee. So don't assume you are covered unless you have it in writing from your insurance company.