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Old 08-04-2014, 08:00 PM
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Used Race Ramps and a floor jack to lower the stock bolts. It took longer to take the pictures, than to unscrew the bolts. On the Race Ramps

Floor jack with a 2x4 pushing up on the spring.


This is a Z51 with MSR. Front/Rear measurements before: 27 3/8" Front 28 7/8" Rear After
Front 26 3/4" Dropped 5/8" Rear 28 3/8" Dropped 1/2".. Looks Great..

Pictures at the other three corners.


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It looks like you have been getting a lot of use out of your new Race Ramps and wheel cribs!
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Do you need to get it aligned after lowering? I was looking at some profile photos of my car and it sure has a lot of air between the tires and fender openings.
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No the alignment does not change.
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I did the same thing to mine last week. I think I had one of the abnormally high ones.
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Originally Posted by AFVETTE
Do you need to get it aligned after lowering? I was looking at some profile photos of my car and it sure has a lot of air between the tires and fender openings.
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No the alignment does not change.
I've always heard it does need to be aligned.
On all my other Vettes I lowered on stock bolts I had them aligned afterwards.
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If you lower all 4 corners all the way with the stock adjusters the rear is now too low. You want some rake in the car (front lower than the rear). Measuring at the frame slots, the front one should be 1/8" - 1/4" lower. Seeing lots of cars with the rear end too low on these forums. Been that way since the C5.

Mechanically the alignment will change... it has to. Whether or not it moves out of spec is debatable. The alignments from the factory seem to be close at best, so I always have the car aligned to a specific set of figures after lowering.
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Originally Posted by Fred@ReverseLogic
It looks like you have been getting a lot of use out of your new Race Ramps and wheel cribs!
Fred, The Race Ramps are so easy to use and they are safe. It is really nice to be able to work, clean, or just mess around under this car. I would buy these Race Ramps again. Like I said easy and safe, what's not to like.
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Originally Posted by Mdm23
I did the same thing to mine last week. I think I had one of the abnormally high ones.
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Mdm, Great looking Vette and a cute watch dog.
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Originally Posted by John Micheal Henry
Used Race Ramps and a floor jack to lower the stock bolts. It took longer to take the pictures, than to unscrew the bolts. On the Race Ramps

Floor jack with a 2x4 pushing up on the spring.


This is a Z51 with MSR. Front/Rear measurements before: 27 3/8" Front 28 7/8" Rear After
Front 26 3/4" Dropped 5/8" Rear 28 3/8" Dropped 1/2".. Looks Great..

Pictures at the other three corners.

OK... I'm slow.. where did you take the measurements from?
if you bottom out the bolts does it get the rake you wanted or do you stop short on the back?

Not sure I asked the correct way... sorry again slow,,
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I like the specially labeled wood Corvette tools, did those cost extra at Home Depot?

When I lowered mine I jacked up each corner one at a time. Whole process took less than 30 minutes.
Old 08-04-2014, 10:23 PM
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Looks great except now scrapes on every road abnormality which ruins the driving experience. I don't understand why this lowered look is so popular, looks over versatility. My C6 scraped all the time, often shuttered thinking, hope nothing is damaged. Now I really enjoy the drive and it is great!
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Originally Posted by Larry/car
Looks great except now scrapes on every road abnormality which ruins the driving experience. I don't understand why this lowered look is so popular, looks over versatility. My C6 scraped all the time, often shuttered thinking, hope nothing is damaged. Now I really enjoy the drive and it is great!
The only thing that scrapes is the air dam under the front. It's a piece of flexible black plastic that's an easily replaced wear item. Same on a C6. It definitely doesn't "ruin the driving experience" for me when that touches the ground.
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Yeah, I'm going to pass on lowering my car. One of the things I like about my C7 over the C6.......less teeth clenching when entering parking lots.
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Originally Posted by Tool Hoarder
If you lower all 4 corners all the way with the stock adjusters the rear is now too low. You want some rake in the car (front lower than the rear). Measuring at the frame slots, the front one should be 1/8" - 1/4" lower. Seeing lots of cars with the rear end too low on these forums. Been that way since the C5.

Mechanically the alignment will change... it has to. Whether or not it moves out of spec is debatable. The alignments from the factory seem to be close at best, so I always have the car aligned to a specific set of figures after lowering.
I lowered mine all the way on the stock adjusters except the right rear which needed about 2 turns to match the left rear. Front to rear rake is identical to where it came from the factory except all 4 corners are now about 1" lower.

And yes, the alignment changes, it's physically impossible for it not to but most that have measured it say it's still within the factory specs. The setting that will change the most is camber and a tad more negative camber isn't a bad thing

I will be getting it aligned soon since as you said, the factory settings are simply "close".
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Originally Posted by FCCCVPMan
OK... I'm slow.. where did you take the measurements from?
if you bottom out the bolts does it get the rake you wanted or do you stop short on the back?

Not sure I asked the correct way... sorry again slow,,
FCCCVPMan, I measured on the outside of the car, from the ground up the middle of the wheel to the bottom of the fender well. Yes I still have the rake, the back is taller that the front. The front dropped 5/8" and the rear dropped 1/2". I'll post a picture of the car later today, when the sun rises. I think the car looks more aggressive, just looks better IMHO.

Sunrise..

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Old 08-05-2014, 07:38 AM
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no scraping = no front deflectors
4" gound clearance @ lowest point

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Originally Posted by C7Jake
no scraping = no front deflectors
4" gound clearance @ lowest point
C7Jake, You have a Great looking Vette.
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Originally Posted by AFVETTE
Do you need to get it aligned after lowering?
It is highly recommended. Even if you don't lower the car, you never know if the car came out of the factory within the proper specs, so it's always a good idea to double check. The cost of an alignment is very cheap compared to the cost of tires, and a bad alignment will go through a set of tires pretty quickly.
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Originally Posted by Steve_R
The only thing that scrapes is the air dam under the front. It's a piece of flexible black plastic that's an easily replaced wear item. Same on a C6. It definitely doesn't "ruin the driving experience" for me when that touches the ground.
The sound of the air dam scraping is enough to put a frown on my face. If you look at used C6's, it is hard to find any cars that the lower painted facia, ahead of the air dam, is not damaged. Some have been hit pretty hard!


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