Constraints - July 24
#21
The first model year C6 Z51 was on limited constraint for almost the entire model year; it turned out keeping the mix for CAFE was the reason. So that may not be a reason for the C7, but on the other hand, it could very well be!
Laborsmith
Laborsmith
#22
Burning Brakes
Thanks Al Blue and Laborsmith, that is the information I needed. I had in my mind that the order had been accepted and then production halted. To know that my dealer would have that knowledge prior to my order reaching the 2000 status is very helpful. Makes the incentive to go with at least the top three dealers, if you want any of the "ify" stuff.
#24
Racer
Z51 constraint
Two possibilities: the first is the Z51 has several elements each of which at different times may have been in short supply.
The second, the gearing for the Z51 likely means not as good fuel mileage as the non-Z51 and GM needs a certain mix for CAFE.
Laborsmith
3000 means your order will be produced. Constraint is what keeps orders from advancing past 1100.
The second, the gearing for the Z51 likely means not as good fuel mileage as the non-Z51 and GM needs a certain mix for CAFE.
Laborsmith
3000 means your order will be produced. Constraint is what keeps orders from advancing past 1100.
Best answers ever; finally understand issue with constraints; great to have such knowlegeable people on the forum. Looking forward to my 15 Vert. Can't wait to trade in my C6.
Heidemarie
#25
Intermediate
Also realize that a small dealer may only get 1 car allocated per month, assuming his yearly allotment is 12 cars or less. Therefore, any order with a constraint will have a tough time getting filled, while one of the mega-vette dealers might get 80-100 cars in the period, making much easier to get cars with constrained items.
#27
Not bizarre. The Corvette is CAFE certified for the manual and for the automatic transmissions and if too many Z51s are produced the certification will need to be either adjusted or redone.
Laborsmith
Laborsmith
#28
Pro
I think GM can't even get enough roofs to make the amount of coupes that dealers want. IMO, that's why dealers have so many convertibles sitting unsold on their lots.
#29
Seems like a magnesium aluminum roof would work well now that Chevy has figured out how to build one that will not fall apart.
CF is good and the weight saving can be significant, but it is tricky to do and each part has to be individually done. Add in the complication of needing to be waterproof after being removed and returned to position numerous times and we have what we have: inexplicable constraints and a clear over production of converts.
And I am not anti converts. I have had them in the past and I have a 1969 Corvair convert in my garage right now.
Laborsmith
#30
Melting Slicks
This right here is the biggest ******** allowed honestly. I've been working with local dealerships b/c I like working in my local community and I'm over a year now b/c his allocation is small. Shame on Chevy. Even had to switch to a 2015 b/c Chevy never accepted the order after being put in last Sept.
#31
Team Owner
This right here is the biggest ******** allowed honestly. I've been working with local dealerships b/c I like working in my local community and I'm over a year now b/c his allocation is small. Shame on Chevy. Even had to switch to a 2015 b/c Chevy never accepted the order after being put in last Sept.
#32
ProjectFusion, if your dealer had allocations for the Corvette vehicle line during the 2014 model year, and if your dealer is meeting the three minimum requirements to be able to use allocations for this model year, you should be ok. But if your dealer did not deliver a C& Corvette in the just ending model year, their likelihood of getting one for the coming model year is close to nil.
As for timing, if your dealer was able to get say three C7s, one in November, one in March and one in June, those are the months he will most likely get C7s in the coming model year. Most likely as a general time frame not as a hard fact.
With this info you are better able to make an informed decision. I think it is good if people decide to stay with their smaller local dealer but better if that decision is based on info not on hopes and dreams.
Laborsmith
As for timing, if your dealer was able to get say three C7s, one in November, one in March and one in June, those are the months he will most likely get C7s in the coming model year. Most likely as a general time frame not as a hard fact.
With this info you are better able to make an informed decision. I think it is good if people decide to stay with their smaller local dealer but better if that decision is based on info not on hopes and dreams.
Laborsmith
#33
Racer
My constraint is the painted roof. I agreed to the smoke roof. My question is this, if the painted roof becomes available before my car is built, will I get that roof then, or because I agreed to the other roof, will they just build it that way?
#34
If you are at 3000, possible with dealer carrying the yeomans load. Once past 3000, no. There is an exception to prove the rule; one exception I am aware of in the course o several years of trying to understand the ordering process.
Becoming available to allow an order to advance past 1100 is not the same as becoming available because the part is on hand. And now that I think about it, the one exception I can recall was not an option added that had originally been on constraint but was a free flow option being added that was available without constraint when the order was originally entered and accepted.
So the answer appears to be "no."
Laborsmith
Becoming available to allow an order to advance past 1100 is not the same as becoming available because the part is on hand. And now that I think about it, the one exception I can recall was not an option added that had originally been on constraint but was a free flow option being added that was available without constraint when the order was originally entered and accepted.
So the answer appears to be "no."
Laborsmith
Last edited by laborsmith; 07-30-2014 at 07:49 PM.
#35
it is going to be built with the roof you agreed to, not the painted roof unless the dealer can manage to change it before it hits 3000 (highly unlikely).
#36
Safety Car
RPO....Description...................... ..........Availability
FAY....Carbon Fiber Dash..............................40%
Z51....Performance Package............................55%
C2Q....Dual Roof Package (Body Color and Transparent)..0%
C2Z....Visible Carbon Fiber Roof......................20%
C2M....Dual Roof Package (Visible CF and Transparent)..0%
G1H....Daytona Sunrise Orange Metallic.................0%
EFY....Body Color Vents................................0%
CFZ....Carbon Fiber Ground Effects Package.............0%
SDN....Black/Silver Stem Valve Package.................0%
CFA....Standard roof (painted)........................35%
QCC....Black Machined Wheels...........................0%
E57....Carbon Fiber Tonneau Inserts....................0%
As member Woody pointed out, these are for build week of 8-25
FAY....Carbon Fiber Dash..............................40%
Z51....Performance Package............................55%
C2Q....Dual Roof Package (Body Color and Transparent)..0%
C2Z....Visible Carbon Fiber Roof......................20%
C2M....Dual Roof Package (Visible CF and Transparent)..0%
G1H....Daytona Sunrise Orange Metallic.................0%
EFY....Body Color Vents................................0%
CFZ....Carbon Fiber Ground Effects Package.............0%
SDN....Black/Silver Stem Valve Package.................0%
CFA....Standard roof (painted)........................35%
QCC....Black Machined Wheels...........................0%
E57....Carbon Fiber Tonneau Inserts....................0%
As member Woody pointed out, these are for build week of 8-25
#39
Safety Car
Those constraints are pathetic....So much for the 2015 buyers anxiously awaiting their cars with the new options. Heck, even the painted (standard) roof is hard to come by. Seems there will be a LOT of Transparent roofs on the market in a few months..
#40
To CCS: how about relaying a suggestion that GM consider a magnesium targa roof?
Laborsmith