Interesting how times have changed
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Interesting how times have changed
So I was watching a top gear episode from season 3 last night on netflix. Richard Hammond drives a mclaren mercedes SLR super car and raves about how strong that 600+ horse power engine taking you from 0-60 in 3.8 seconds with a top speed >200 mph. This is in a £300k + car that is effectively reserved for a small population of buyers who can afford it.
Now I know affordability is super relative/subjective but isn't it something that we can get that performance in a -hot looking- car that costs 10% of that? Everybody knows corvettes have always been a good value for money, but the performance and technology we're getting today is that of elite cars only 10 years ago.
That's good :-)
Now I know affordability is super relative/subjective but isn't it something that we can get that performance in a -hot looking- car that costs 10% of that? Everybody knows corvettes have always been a good value for money, but the performance and technology we're getting today is that of elite cars only 10 years ago.
That's good :-)
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I agree. One can send a Stingray to your favorite well regarded forum tuner and have them install a well designed supercharger kit, tune it to perfection and have a street rocketship that can keep up with and pass any of those ridiculously over priced exotics( or just wait for a C7 Z06). To top it off, the C7 has an awesome exotic look, coupled with an available upscale 3LT interior and Z51/mag ride/NPP combo that really makes a beautiful statement. Simply the best, regardless of price ( spoken like a life long vette junkie).
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I think what some people forget is that over the life of the C7, they will probably make nearly 100,000 of them. They've already made 22K at least in the first year and don't seem to be slowing down anytime soon.
McLaren could only build about 15 SLR's a month. Chevy makes 180 or so Corvettes a day. When you take all the R and D and tooling costs and divide it up, not to mention increased costs from scale and a lack of mass production techniques, you have to have huge margins on these low production cars to justify making them.
Basically, you can't compare apples to oranges. It's more than just the cost of labor and material that makes cars like the SLR so expensive.
McLaren could only build about 15 SLR's a month. Chevy makes 180 or so Corvettes a day. When you take all the R and D and tooling costs and divide it up, not to mention increased costs from scale and a lack of mass production techniques, you have to have huge margins on these low production cars to justify making them.
Basically, you can't compare apples to oranges. It's more than just the cost of labor and material that makes cars like the SLR so expensive.
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I think what some people forget is that over the life of the C7, they will probably make nearly 100,000 of them. They've already made 22K at least in the first year and don't seem to be slowing down anytime soon.
McLaren could only build about 15 SLR's a month. Chevy makes 180 or so Corvettes a day. When you take all the R and D and tooling costs and divide it up, not to mention increased costs from scale and a lack of mass production techniques, you have to have huge margins on these low production cars to justify making them.
Basically, you can't compare apples to oranges. It's more than just the cost of labor and material that makes cars like the SLR so expensive.
McLaren could only build about 15 SLR's a month. Chevy makes 180 or so Corvettes a day. When you take all the R and D and tooling costs and divide it up, not to mention increased costs from scale and a lack of mass production techniques, you have to have huge margins on these low production cars to justify making them.
Basically, you can't compare apples to oranges. It's more than just the cost of labor and material that makes cars like the SLR so expensive.
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you may be disappointed.
Many in the cult gave this mental-case too much credibility:
we may be witnessing the beginning of the end. The 8sp auto is not 8 speeds for the goal of lightning fast performance
Many in the cult gave this mental-case too much credibility:
we may be witnessing the beginning of the end. The 8sp auto is not 8 speeds for the goal of lightning fast performance
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Yes, but it's claimed to provide lightning-fast shifts.
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It's pretty much always been this way. The supercars of a yesterday end up being the standard of today.
There are some exceptions to the rule but they tend to be street legal race cars and not true supercars. (i.e. the F40, where you aren't in luxury, you are in a carbon fiber bare bones race car).
This is also true of the tech used on today's sports cars will end up being on regular cars in just a few years. (examples... ZR1 LT5 was the precursor to the Caddy Northstar, "ASR" traction control ended up in basically everything, Magnetic ride suspension is in many cars now, etc.)
There are some exceptions to the rule but they tend to be street legal race cars and not true supercars. (i.e. the F40, where you aren't in luxury, you are in a carbon fiber bare bones race car).
This is also true of the tech used on today's sports cars will end up being on regular cars in just a few years. (examples... ZR1 LT5 was the precursor to the Caddy Northstar, "ASR" traction control ended up in basically everything, Magnetic ride suspension is in many cars now, etc.)
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And compare maintenance and insurance costs. Not a factor if you can afford the expensive cars but is to me to whom 60 70K is a lot of money.