What could possibly have caused this?
#61
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#62
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Did I miss something or are there only two known cars with this issue? My fenders are coming off next month, so I'm going to check mine then. But with only two of these examples at this point, I don't understand the hyper-reaction. If future evidence shows this is a widespread problem, then I would understand reactions like some of the ones in this thread. But with two? Really?
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How many guys have their fenders removed to actually see this issue? This is NOT an isolated issue believe it. These parts and fenders are mfg. to ultra tight tolerances. They all are the same. If theres is one there are hundreds at least. Unreal, just crazy that BG would release cars knowingly obviously with this damage. Buyer beware.
Explain how you know that..........
YOU DONT............just more paranoia....
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How many guys have their fenders removed to actually see this issue? This is NOT an isolated issue believe it. These parts and fenders are mfg. to ultra tight tolerances. They all are the same. If theres is one there are hundreds at least. Unreal, just crazy that BG would release cars knowingly obviously with this damage. Buyer beware.
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How many guys have their fenders removed to actually see this issue? This is NOT an isolated issue believe it. These parts and fenders are mfg. to ultra tight tolerances. They all are the same. If theres is one there are hundreds at least. Unreal, just crazy that BG would release cars knowingly obviously with this damage. Buyer beware.
I was planning on ordering a Z06, and hopefully the new front fenders are devoid of any such issue. However, I'm a bit less confident of the quality than I was before seeing this.
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For the point of discussion, this MAY be a widespread problem. But the evidence doesn't support that YET. That's my point. Like I said, I'm doing something in June that will require my fenders coming off. At that point, I will see if mine are cracked or not and will report my findings here.
#67
I do find it interesting that BOTH sides of the yellow car were cracked in a similar fashion. That would indicate a design, fitment, or assembly flaw, but it's nothing GM will ever admit to......unless they have to. The adhesive would also indicate that they are aware of it.
I was planning on ordering a Z06, and hopefully the new front fenders are devoid of any such issue. However, I'm a bit less confident of the quality than I was before seeing this.
I was planning on ordering a Z06, and hopefully the new front fenders are devoid of any such issue. However, I'm a bit less confident of the quality than I was before seeing this.
#68
Common sense will tell you by looking at the pictures and the fact that it''s a small portion of the fender subject to the vibration and stresses of a cars movement that if it's happened several times it's a design flaw. Bound to have some on a new design. Since all fenders are built to the same specifications these aren't isolated occurrences and surely are present in more numbers than reported due to the broken part being hidden. Unfortunately, in business decisions are often based on doing what's best for the bottom line, not what's right. I hope the bean counters don't hold sway on this one. Let's see how GM handles this.
#69
I think all you can reasonably conclude thus far is the parts for some cars were damaged during assembly. Whether or not an undamaged part would crack in normal use is still an open question. Obviously this repair was done during the assembly process and NOT after the car was driven subjecting the part to stress and vibration.
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I think all you can reasonably conclude thus far is the parts for some cars were damaged during assembly. Whether or not an undamaged part would crack in normal use is still an open question. Obviously this repair was done during the assembly process and NOT after the car was driven subjecting the part to stress and vibration.
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You can expect that number to do nothing but grow and grow, and GM to loose it's *** in law suits, the fine was just the beginning.
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I dont know. But what I do know is parts are not mfg for a specific car. ALL parts are interchangeable and mfg to exact standards and measurements. Do you honestly believe the misallignment of these joints/connection points is JUST on two cars? I think it highly unlikely. But- what REALLY bothers me is they put some glue on it and said "good enough for the guy paying 70K for this car.
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I dont know. But what I do know is parts are not mfg for a specific car. ALL parts are interchangeable and mfg to exact standards and measurements. Do you honestly believe the misallignment of these joints/connection points is JUST on two cars? I think it highly unlikely. But- what REALLY bothers me is they put some glue on it and said "good enough for the guy paying 70K for this car.
Look on the bright side, luckily its a car and not eye surgery. But then some may say, you have two eyes, so one is broken, stop complaining.
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I'm glad I'm waiting for the Z06, but there are no guarantees a similar or even a non-related issue will arise with any new car. As you said, it's just a car....not life and death. You've just gotta try to enjoy what you have and deal with issues as they arise. I think it sucks that GM will most likely address this issue in the cheapest way possible, but as the story goes, "you knew I was snake when you let me in." Buyer beware.
#76
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Those people are Ok with it because what other choice do they have? Are they going to return the car? GM is not going to check and retrofit every 2014 C7....so you can either hope for the best with the car you purchased or drive yourself crazy being pissed off that you didn't wait.
I'm glad I'm waiting for the Z06, but there are no guarantees a similar or even a non-related issue will arise with any new car. As you said, it's just a car....not life and death. You've just gotta try to enjoy what you have and deal with issues as they arise. I think it sucks that GM will most likely address this issue in the cheapest way possible, but as the story goes, "you knew I was snake when you let me in." Buyer beware.
I'm glad I'm waiting for the Z06, but there are no guarantees a similar or even a non-related issue will arise with any new car. As you said, it's just a car....not life and death. You've just gotta try to enjoy what you have and deal with issues as they arise. I think it sucks that GM will most likely address this issue in the cheapest way possible, but as the story goes, "you knew I was snake when you let me in." Buyer beware.
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Scraping the splitter.
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Those people are Ok with it because what other choice do they have? Are they going to return the car? GM is not going to check and retrofit every 2014 C7....so you can either hope for the best with the car you purchased or drive yourself crazy being pissed off that you didn't wait.
I'm glad I'm waiting for the Z06, but there are no guarantees a similar or even a non-related issue will arise with any new car. As you said, it's just a car....not life and death. You've just gotta try to enjoy what you have and deal with issues as they arise. I think it sucks that GM will most likely address this issue in the cheapest way possible, but as the story goes, "you knew I was snake when you let me in." Buyer beware.
I'm glad I'm waiting for the Z06, but there are no guarantees a similar or even a non-related issue will arise with any new car. As you said, it's just a car....not life and death. You've just gotta try to enjoy what you have and deal with issues as they arise. I think it sucks that GM will most likely address this issue in the cheapest way possible, but as the story goes, "you knew I was snake when you let me in." Buyer beware.
I'd like to know what reasoning they have behind it:
1. Don't care because its not on their car?
2. Figure its in an area where you cant see it so why care?
3. Its only a small number and not theirs so who cares?
4. The old "life is short and you may die next year" so damaged fenders are better than nothing?
5. For the money cracks are acceptable?
6. Very low standards
7. Daily driver and will have all sorts of abuse anyway
8. Blind
9. This cant be true because it was reported on Fox news and I only listen to facts.
Wonder if it was on a visible part of the fender would they consider this a non-issue?
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Nobody I see here says it's not a problem, but as was said above it seems this forum loves to immediately Jump to the extreme that is on all cars and a huge problem done by a bad design.
We simply don't know that at this point....period.
We simply don't know that at this point....period.