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Old 05-17-2014, 12:32 PM
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Default Will supplier pricing be available for 2015's?

Does anyone have an idea if GM will continue supplier pricing for Credit Union members?

I am wanting to put a deposit dn for a 15 order, but dealer says can't, because he is unsure whether I will be able to get supplier price.

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probably not initially and definitely not on the Z06.
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What AFVETTE said plus this: GMS and GMU (supplier) are not accepted at the start of production because there is a belief that dealers need to have vehicles on hand in order to sell them. Since almost all vehicles sold in the USA are from dealer stock, there is a good possibility GM knows what it is doing.

So your dealer is correct: program pricing will not be available during the initial build time frame. It will be (excepting specialty vehicles such as the Z06) once dealers have a good supply on their lots.

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JMO. Depends on inventory available and probably not until the end of the year. Patience will be needed for any discounts.
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Originally Posted by AFVETTE
probably not initially and definitely not on the Z06.
I want a Z51 coupe or vert... Sounds like I need to find a car in inventory somewhere.
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Originally Posted by laborsmith
What AFVETTE said plus this: GMS and GMU (supplier) are not accepted at the start of production because there is a belief that dealers need to have vehicles on hand in order to sell them. Since almost all vehicles sold in the USA are from dealer stock, there is a good possibility GM knows what it is doing.

So your dealer is correct: program pricing will not be available during the initial build time frame. It will be (excepting specialty vehicles such as the Z06) once dealers have a good supply on their lots.

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Then there is the question of what happens to those that have placed orders for 2014s and have an agreed upon GMS or GMU price. If the order cannot be filled with a 2014 car due to issues beyond the control of the customer, will GM or the dealer honor the discount pricing through the model changeover to a 2015 car? If the answer is yes (or even a strong possibility), then it might make sense to place an order now for a 2014 knowing that the dealer won't be able to get a 2014 with their remaining allocation. Going a step further, if the ordered car has constraints then you are virtually assured the order won't be filled with a 2014.
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Originally Posted by laborsmith
What AFVETTE said plus this: GMS and GMU (supplier) are not accepted at the start of production because there is a belief that dealers need to have vehicles on hand in order to sell them. Since almost all vehicles sold in the USA are from dealer stock, there is a good possibility GM knows what it is doing.

So your dealer is correct: program pricing will not be available during the initial build time frame. It will be (excepting specialty vehicles such as the Z06) once dealers have a good supply on their lots.

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I was told by my dealer that GMS would be available from its introduction in March forward. They said it is only on the front end of a new model year (2014) that it is not offered for a few months which was true until March of this year. Perhaps Supplier discount is different.
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The order has to have been accepted (2000) if it can not be fulfilled until the next model year for "price protection" to apply. An entered order (1100 etc.) will not count.

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Originally Posted by Dr. ice
I was told by my dealer that GMS would be available from its introduction in March forward. They said it is only on the front end of a new model year (2014) that it is not offered for a few months which was true until March of this year. Perhaps Supplier discount is different.
Your dealer could very well be correct. I think this is a semantics issue. When next model year Malibu's start production, the likelihood that retail sold orders will outnumber retail stock orders is minimal. I have noticed GMS (employee) programs SEEM to be available before GMU (supplier, friend & family, and credit union) programs but I suspect there is a difference: employee pricing programs are managed by GM and the other pricing programs are 3rd party dependent.

But GMS is not available at start up. It will be available in time, but it is not available at start of production, ie: preorders before the start of regular production.

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Originally Posted by laborsmith
What AFVETTE said plus this: GMS and GMU (supplier) are not accepted at the start of production because there is a belief that dealers need to have vehicles on hand in order to sell them. Since almost all vehicles sold in the USA are from dealer stock, there is a good possibility GM knows what it is doing.

So your dealer is correct: program pricing will not be available during the initial build time frame. It will be (excepting specialty vehicles such as the Z06) once dealers have a good supply on their lots.

Laborsmith
I just posted what I had been told a few weeks ago about GMS pricing on the introduction of the 2015s but I thought I would call again which I just did. I talked to the new car sales manager at Hendricks Chevrolet in Shawnee Mission, Kansas who has been selling for Chevrolet since 2002 and he confirmed my prior post that once they start with the program on the FIRST year of a new model that it continues.
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Remember, GM may offer supplier pricing, but each dealer decides whether they will accept it on all cars or not.
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Originally Posted by TEXHAWK0
Remember, GM may offer supplier pricing, but each dealer decides whether they will accept it on all cars or not.
That is true. The dealer I referenced in my post DOES accept GMS and Supplier discounts on ALL cars including the C7 should that be of interest to anyone.
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Originally Posted by Dr. ice
I just posted what I had been told a few weeks ago about GMS pricing on the introduction of the 2015s but I thought I would call again which I just did. I talked to the new car sales manager at Hendricks Chevrolet in Shawnee Mission, Kansas who has been selling for Chevrolet since 2002 and he confirmed my prior post that once they start with the program on the FIRST year of a new model that it continues.

Just to clarify... GMS and Supplier are two different animals, so you are saying that he said GMS will continue, but what about Supplier...? Just trying to make sure I am clear on what you mean.

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Originally Posted by WELOVEVETTES
Just to clarify... GMS and Supplier are two different animals, so you are saying that he said GMS will continue, but what about Supplier...? Just trying to make sure I am clear on what you mean.

Thanks
He said both would continue now that they have been introduced in March for the C7
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I'll jump in since I spent about a week working on GM Military Discount, which is the same as Supplier but a different name (I have both). The ONLY dealer I could find that flat out said yes was Les Stanford. I want to order a 2015 Z-51 8 speed and was told by them, that with a deposit, I would be #31 in line to order a '15. And the authorization had to be in effect at the time of vehicle delivery. All the other major board dealers here politely said not at this time. When you register for any of these programs, you get an Authorization that is dated and good for six months. Both of mine expire in November. I also contacted Ross Downing, whom I have bought from before. They said they will consider it when supply catches up with demand. FWIW.

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The dealer is not saying something that contradicts what I have posted. In fact, what he has said is what I am trying to post. I admit I can get hung up in trying to be precise and this could be an instance.

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Originally Posted by laborsmith
The order has to have been accepted (2000) if it can not be fulfilled until the next model year for "price protection" to apply. An entered order (1100 etc.) will not count.

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And that's were I currently sit. However if I can't get LRG I may sit it out until I can find a pre-owned 14. But my dealer is confident I'll get my car as GM has to clear out the LRG material for MY14 and none of my options are on constraint.

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Originally Posted by PhilsFRC
I'll jump in since I spent about a week working on GM Military Discount, which is the same as Supplier but a different name (I have both). The ONLY dealer I could find that flat out said yes was Les Stanford. I want to order a 2015 Z-51 8 speed and was told by them, that with a deposite, I would be #31 in line to order a '15. And the authorization had to be in effect at the time of vehicle delivery. When you register for any of these programs, you get an Authorization that is dated and good for six months. Both of mine expire in November. I also contacted Ross Downing, who I have bought from before. They said they will consider it when supply catches up with demand. FWIW.
Is their any need to get the authorization until you are ready to receive the car? I understood that I would not furnish my GMS code until ready to pay for the car. Getting the authorization number is obtained by a GM employee accessing it by computer when they wish to do so. Is the Military Discount different?
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Originally Posted by Dr. ice
He said both would continue now that they have been introduced in March for the C7

Thank you sir.
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If you can get Supplier then you are correct. If you have the number when you pay for it, you're good to go, no matter when you got the Authorization number-Supplier is not a one off discount like Military. I pulled up the Military Discount Authorization because I don't know how long they will have that particular program. And for example, Military limits you on Cadillac until the end of June only. Once you obtain the number it's good until expiration, even if they terminate the program. Additionally, I medically retired from a Company that GM authorized Supplier for, and for fun, went back in and reapplied for an Authorization and it issued one. So now I have both. The REAL issue is finding a dealer that will accept either. And BTW, the discount structure is the same for Employee, Supplier and Military as I understand it.


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