So no ZR1, but maybe a halo car?
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So no ZR1, but maybe a halo car?
ok,so no zr1,but could GM pull off a $200,000+ halo car,maybe a mid eng twin-turbo all-aluminum,dual overhead cam supercar,maybe not even call it a corvette,just ''L88'' OR JUST A CARBONFIBER BOWTIE
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I'll bet a dollar there will be a Zr1 C7. More CF, more HP, and more money. Probably a bigger blower and no AFM, though it'd be a feather in GM's cap if the highest performance car they make pushed a lot of green buttons.
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Very good bet there will be a ZR1 ... No matter how many people deny it... example: a GM rep. said on a forum that they were not doing a Z28, then at the NYAS what pops up? Z/28... The GM rep. said "They have to tell little white lies or they could lose their job".
Time may be running out for high power cars because of future govt. regulations and fuel requirements. So this may be the time for car companies to milk performance cars for all they can now.
Time may be running out for high power cars because of future govt. regulations and fuel requirements. So this may be the time for car companies to milk performance cars for all they can now.
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Why is it so hard for people to understand the "why?" of the C6 ZR-1? Do you all just forget that the sole reason the ZR-1 existed was because GM was a financial mess, and the C& was basically put on hold until things got better? The ZR-1 was built to try to build hype for an aging platform to recoup some more money from a platform that for all intents and purposes paid off all the investment GM made to produce the C6.
So yes the ZR-1 was a hail mary by GM to generate a little buzz so that they could extend the life of the C6 platform while GM unscrewed it's finances. To be honest the most likely thing GM will make in the future of the C7 is "Grand Sport" C7's that look like the Z06 (wide bodies) with a bump in HP to about 500.
GM has absolutely zero need to build a $200,000 car either. What could they possibly gain by making one? Take into account the cost of prototyping, design, engineering, and production and GM would likely have to sell way more than is likely...especially since it's a GM product. Try convincing someone with $200k to burn to not buy a Porsche Turbo, Lamborghini Huracan, McLaren 650S, etc. Hell if I had $200k laying around the idea of having a couple Z06's with the Z07 packages (one for track and one for street) would be pretty damn tempting.
GM also has no iconic historical supercar to bring back from the dead like Ford did with the Ford GT. That car was destined to be collectible because of it's ties to the GT40 and not to mention it's just a downright amazing car. If anything I think GM could get away with making a new model that is mid engine using a light V-6, AWD, with DCTand sell it for less than $70k and satisfy those clammorring for an AWD car with DCT.
So yes the ZR-1 was a hail mary by GM to generate a little buzz so that they could extend the life of the C6 platform while GM unscrewed it's finances. To be honest the most likely thing GM will make in the future of the C7 is "Grand Sport" C7's that look like the Z06 (wide bodies) with a bump in HP to about 500.
GM has absolutely zero need to build a $200,000 car either. What could they possibly gain by making one? Take into account the cost of prototyping, design, engineering, and production and GM would likely have to sell way more than is likely...especially since it's a GM product. Try convincing someone with $200k to burn to not buy a Porsche Turbo, Lamborghini Huracan, McLaren 650S, etc. Hell if I had $200k laying around the idea of having a couple Z06's with the Z07 packages (one for track and one for street) would be pretty damn tempting.
GM also has no iconic historical supercar to bring back from the dead like Ford did with the Ford GT. That car was destined to be collectible because of it's ties to the GT40 and not to mention it's just a downright amazing car. If anything I think GM could get away with making a new model that is mid engine using a light V-6, AWD, with DCTand sell it for less than $70k and satisfy those clammorring for an AWD car with DCT.
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So a low volume, brand new chassis with a low volume brand now powertrain? I guess you have no idea how much designing a car from the ground up costs.
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We've just completed the C6 run, and seen how GM introduced various new models and improvements along the way, to keep selling cars. Why should the C7 years ahead be any different. To date, the A8 is coming in 2015, just like the A6 came in the second year of C6 production. The Z06 is coming in 2015 ( this time with all variations available and an A8), just like the C6 Z06 came in 2006, the second year of C6 production. Anyone see a pattern here ? If recent C6 history is any indication, ya think maybe a GS with maybe a power bump ( just like the LS3 in 2008) might show up down the line aways. Also, a ZR1 appearance would not be so far fetched either. Why ? Cause GM knows their market. Vette junkies like us, that will jump to a new vette with the latest new thing, we just gotta have( this emotion influenced response does not apply to the super thrifties, who WANT the same the same as us more addicted types, but who keep both feet on the ground and keep driving their obsolete vette).
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If GM does its market research and concludes that enough units could be sold, profitably, then they could do it.
But, IMO, the marginal costs of developing a car like this (new platform & drive-train) won't be inexpensive...
that alone could be a risky bet.
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Very good bet there will be a ZR1 ... No matter how many people deny it... example: a GM rep. said on a forum that they were not doing a Z28, then at the NYAS what pops up? Z/28... The GM rep. said "They have to tell little white lies or they could lose their job".
Time may be running out for high power cars because of future govt. regulations and fuel requirements. So this may be the time for car companies to milk performance cars for all they can now.
Time may be running out for high power cars because of future govt. regulations and fuel requirements. So this may be the time for car companies to milk performance cars for all they can now.
oh........wait.......never mind.
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We are just nearing the end of the first production year. The second year already has the Z06 with 625HP, auto and a drop top. My guess is that a few years down the road there will be something to kick it up another notch.
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I don't think the C7 run will be anywhere near the 9 year run of the C6 since they are already working on the C8. I do think they have various minor changes to keep the model selling once sales start to get soft. As a previous poster said they did it with the C6 so they will do it with the C7. No surprise here.
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Why is it so hard for people to understand the "why?" of the C6 ZR-1? Do you all just forget that the sole reason the ZR-1 existed was because GM was a financial mess, and the C& was basically put on hold until things got better? The ZR-1 was built to try to build hype for an aging platform to recoup some more money from a platform that for all intents and purposes paid off all the investment GM made to produce the C6.
So yes the ZR-1 was a hail mary by GM to generate a little buzz so that they could extend the life of the C6 platform while GM unscrewed it's finances. To be honest the most likely thing GM will make in the future of the C7 is "Grand Sport" C7's that look like the Z06 (wide bodies) with a bump in HP to about 500.
GM has absolutely zero need to build a $200,000 car either. What could they possibly gain by making one? Take into account the cost of prototyping, design, engineering, and production and GM would likely have to sell way more than is likely...especially since it's a GM product. Try convincing someone with $200k to burn to not buy a Porsche Turbo, Lamborghini Huracan, McLaren 650S, etc. Hell if I had $200k laying around the idea of having a couple Z06's with the Z07 packages (one for track and one for street) would be pretty damn tempting.
GM also has no iconic historical supercar to bring back from the dead like Ford did with the Ford GT. That car was destined to be collectible because of it's ties to the GT40 and not to mention it's just a downright amazing car. If anything I think GM could get away with making a new model that is mid engine using a light V-6, AWD, with DCTand sell it for less than $70k and satisfy those clammorring for an AWD car with DCT.
So yes the ZR-1 was a hail mary by GM to generate a little buzz so that they could extend the life of the C6 platform while GM unscrewed it's finances. To be honest the most likely thing GM will make in the future of the C7 is "Grand Sport" C7's that look like the Z06 (wide bodies) with a bump in HP to about 500.
GM has absolutely zero need to build a $200,000 car either. What could they possibly gain by making one? Take into account the cost of prototyping, design, engineering, and production and GM would likely have to sell way more than is likely...especially since it's a GM product. Try convincing someone with $200k to burn to not buy a Porsche Turbo, Lamborghini Huracan, McLaren 650S, etc. Hell if I had $200k laying around the idea of having a couple Z06's with the Z07 packages (one for track and one for street) would be pretty damn tempting.
GM also has no iconic historical supercar to bring back from the dead like Ford did with the Ford GT. That car was destined to be collectible because of it's ties to the GT40 and not to mention it's just a downright amazing car. If anything I think GM could get away with making a new model that is mid engine using a light V-6, AWD, with DCTand sell it for less than $70k and satisfy those clammorring for an AWD car with DCT.
In 2006, the C6 was far from being an aging platform. The R&D and tooling to produce the C6 had been recouped by the time they started working on the ZR1 in 2006.
The "hail Mary" that you think happened with the ZR1 was started with the 2010 Grand Sport and completed with the 2013 427 Convertible. Both were very good sellers, considering the economy, and both met GM's intentions to keep sales up while they pulled the C7 out of mothballs.
BTW, auto manufacturers are capable of multi tasking.
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And GM/Chevrolet already does. Big time. As long as they can't build enough C7s there's no reason to make more different models. If sales drop, then maybe.
As for a $200k Chevrolet supercar? Absolutely no way that will ever happen.
As for a $200k Chevrolet supercar? Absolutely no way that will ever happen.
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limited production and make a entry level Corvette.I would feedback on this , maybe some of GM Brass will read this I hope.
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Why do people automatically assume the C7 is going to do exactly what the C6 did?
Some people keep saying "the C6 did this" or "the C6 did that"...
Guess what?... The C7 is NOT the C6.
Some people keep saying "the C6 did this" or "the C6 did that"...
Guess what?... The C7 is NOT the C6.