jagamajajaran

Friends,

After reading a forum member's comment on another thread having to do with excessive orange peel suggesting that forum members with paint issues join together to notify GM of their issues, I took it upon myself to start a petition towards that end.

This thread is not intended to be a forum for bashing GM, but a vehicle for making our voices heard regarding any paint issues that we have personally seen or experienced. Please do not use this thread for ranting or flaming GM. The sole intent of this post and the petition is for the purpose of informing GM of our concerns.

If you have no complaints regarding paint quality, move along. If you are a current owner or a potential future owner, feel free to sign the petition. There is also a place on the petition for comments.

Once the petition reaches 100 signatures, GM will be made aware of it. Signatures can continue to be added beyond that point, but the threshold for notification is 100.

Here is the link to the petition:

http://www.change.org/petitions/gene...vette-stingray

I also want to go on the record as saying that I am grateful for the attention GM placed on correcting my paint issues. They were excessive and far beyond your basic orange peel issues. However, as some have recently experienced orange peel, paint runs, and thin paint on more recently delivered Corvettes, I feel that a petition is a reasonable medium for making GM aware of the issues we are continuing to see. I personally saw a new black convertible in a dealership recently that had a terrible amount of orange peel. I have seen other black Corvettes with very little orange peel. Hopefully our united voices will make a difference.

jagamajajaran

5 signatures already...

KenHorse

Know why this will go nowhere?

Because if they DO acknowledge the problem, they're going to have a s***load of cars they're going to be liable to repaint....Nice thought but it ain't gonna happen.....

By the way.. after reading the actual petition, are you ****ing kidding me? Looks like it was written by a 5 year old......

Laughable.......

jagamajajaran

Ken, whatever the outcome, at least those with concerns did something to start the ball rolling. And regarding your comment about the actual petition, the setup asked me to input the following:

"What do you want them to do? (Call to action)

Ask your petition's decision maker to do something, as if you were speaking to them directly. For example, "Pay your workers overtime"."

It was in this field that I simply input:

"Improve the quality of the paint on the 2014 Corvette Stingray"

I was then asked to fill in the portion about why this is important. I felt my comment was concise and to the point.

I would gladly entertain a more sophisticated summary for that particular field if you would like to offer one.



P.S. The actual petition letter that will be sent to GM is not just the "Improve the quality of the paint on the 2014 Corvette Stingray."

rsvette12

A little harsh Ken

post-it

Sorry, not an issue with my C7! VIN 1363, delivered in October,is a very good car. No paint issues, no mechanical issues and is a very beautiful car.

jagamajajaran

That's great! I have seen some with beautiful fit and finish. The issue is a matter of consistency. I'm glad your car has no issues. They should ALL come out of the factory as such.

post-it

Thank you,I am more than pleased with my car. I am a very **** person about fit, finish and overall quality.

KenHorse

Maybe so.....

But it is still a complete waste of time. An online petition is not going to spur GM into doing a damn thing about the paint quality. A battery of lawyers probably couldn't get them to. I live in reality and a petition to GM has about as much chance of the desired effect as a petition demanding the resignation of....oh wait, I won't get political.....

As for my comments about the petition itself, I'll just say that ANY petition that would have ANY chance of getting any manufacturer's attention would have to be quite a bit more sophisticated than the one I read. Seriously......

jagamajajaran

Ken, I understand your point of view. Setting up the petition was my first goal. Having not created an online petition with change.org, I did not know what the petition would actually look like once I had created it. However, the portion that will go to GM can be edited, so after I have some time to create something more appropriate, I will input it instead. As I said previously, if you would like to offer constructive input as to what should be said, feel free to do so. However, I do not expect that you will do so since you think the petition is a waste of time in the first place.

...kind of like the waste of time that it was for you to have commented on this thread...

#1c6

then step up and getter done!!!

MThomas

He always comes across this way.

rsvette12

I see your point also Ken

I am a reality type of person myself

KenHorse

I see you updated it - MUCH better

Still a waste of time but it reads better

Know how get GM's attention? 2 words - CLASS ACTION..short of that, nuthin' is gonna get 'em to budge

jagamajajaran

This is what it says at this moment. Input on revisions are welcome.

jagamajajaran

I'm not convinced that CLASS ACTION is the only thing they will listen to. It's possible, but it did not take anything close to that for them to address my issues.

KenHorse

I freely admit that

I can be VERY diplomatic when I want to be....

NSC5

Ken, Wasn't that last outbreak of diplomatic behavior back in 1980 or '81?

Seriously I agree with you that if the petition makes people feel better fine but it isn't going to get a significant reaction from GM. AND if they revised procedures to consistently produce the level of detailed fit and finish that some people desire the price would be a whole lot higher. Costs go up rapidly when you try to drive these types of issues down to near zero and the majority of customers would raise bloody hell over the resultant increased price.

kp

Fixed it for you

Class action for a cosmetic issue will get you nowhere.

hawkgfr

I'll disagree a little here....One thing that might even be better than class action is publicity. We have how many members? The right information at the right time in the right area on the internet could do wonders as well.


And like others have said doing nothing means just that.