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Old 03-06-2014, 12:47 AM
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Two big things happened over the last few days in regard to Corvette pricing. A $3,200 price increase - which has been beaten to death on this forum, and the availability of GM pricing to GM employees and their families.

One dealer, Les Stanford in Dearborn Michigan, jumped on the forum immediately (last Saturday) and offered employee pricing to all who qualify on all ordered and in stock Corvettes.

Do the other forum dealers offer GM employee pricing?

Some dealers seem to post about every car they deliver and how much they love their customers, but it is suspicious that they do not post information that could save some customers thousands of dollars.

I believe that dealers are NOT REQUIRED to offer GM employee pricing if they choose. I can understand that if they are making several thousand dollars per Corvette sale they might not want to make several hundred on an employee sale.

At Les Stanford my recent Z51 order went from 1100 to 3000 in less than a week, build week 3/17. Glad I ordered from Les Stanford.
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I believe they prefer an email/phone call to talk price on an individual basis vs a public "low ball price fest" of vendor A posting $ and vendor B comes back a dollar less for that day.
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Originally Posted by Art-2008
Two big things happened over the last few days in regard to Corvette pricing. A $3,200 price increase - which has been beaten to death on this forum, and the availability of GM pricing to GM employees and their families.
I wish folks would PLEASE stop spreading FALSE info.

There is no $3,200 increase. If you're going to bitch about something, at least get your facts straight ....

$1,200 on Z51
$2,000 on base

Sheesh....
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Originally Posted by KenHorse
I wish folks would PLEASE stop spreading FALSE info.

There is no $3,200 increase. If you're going to bitch about something, at least get your facts straight ....

$1,200 on Z51
$2,000 on base

Sheesh....
I'm not "Bitching" about the price increase at all. I think GM has every right to raise the price and all versions of the car are STILL a great bargain. The majority of cars ordered/sold are Z51's so the $3200 figure is accurate.
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Originally Posted by KenHorse
I wish folks would PLEASE stop spreading FALSE info.

There is no $3,200 increase. If you're going to bitch about something, at least get your facts straight ....

$1,200 on Z51
$2,000 on base

Sheesh....
Huh? So what you are saying is the 2015 Z51 isn't $3200 more than a 2014?
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For me, buying a new car has always been an isolated, unique event. Just you and the guy at the dealer who has the power. All kinds of local conditions can affect the end result, as well as the phenomenon of buying a hot car during its initial launch. In my case there wasn't much negotiation; I wanted the car and was willing to pay the price. But in other situations i was able to play one dealer off another, because there were more cars available thru more local dealers.

Not so with the C7.

IMO the issue with constraints on the Z51 was that Chevy made it too easy to afford. Many buyers really didn't want it, but said hey, it's $2800, let's go. If it is now a $4000 option that will cause more consideration and perhaps fewer Z51s being built but going to those who really want it and are willing to pay.

Supply and demand- it can always be manipulated.
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Originally Posted by khoeysr
For me, buying a new car has always been an isolated, unique event. Just you and the guy at the dealer who has the power.

Not so with the C7.

Supply and demand- it can always be manipulated.
Even with the C7 it's a game (w/Z51 package):

- Local dealers, no room to negotiate.
- Forum dealers ranged from zero off to several thousand off.

It's a matter of how hard you want to work at it.

C7 will continue to be a desirable car, that's why GM raised the price.
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Originally Posted by KenHorse
I wish folks would PLEASE stop spreading FALSE info.

There is no $3,200 increase. If you're going to bitch about something, at least get your facts straight ....

$1,200 on Z51
$2,000 on base

Sheesh....
Ken,

Not trying to argue, just help clarify.

My car was 66,725 before the increase and it is now 69,925...$3200 difference. So I think what people are confusing is that a Z51 (which contains the base) is really $3200 more than it used to be. $2000 for base plus $1200 for the Z51 option.

-Mark
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Originally Posted by Art-2008
I'm not "Bitching" about the price increase at all. I think GM has every right to raise the price and all versions of the car are STILL a great bargain. The majority of cars ordered/sold are Z51's so the $3200 figure is accurate.
No it isn't.

The price increase on a Z51 is only $1,200, not $3,200.....

(the option goes from $2,800 additional to $4,000 additional. That is a $1,200 increase. See? That's not so hard)
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Originally Posted by KenHorse
No it isn't.

The price increase on a Z51 is only $1,200, not $3,200.....

(the option goes from $2,800 additional to $4,000 additional. That is a $1,200 increase. See? That's not so hard)
But you cant buy Z51 without buying a base car

So if you want a Z51 it will cost you 3200 more than before the price increase.
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Originally Posted by kp
But you cant buy Z51 without buying a base car

So if you want a Z51 it will cost you 3200 more than before the price increase.
That's not how it was related to me. When you buy a Z51, you're not adding onto the base car - they are each independent model numbers and the formula isn't $2K + $1.2K

But I will double check with my source, thanks
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Originally Posted by KenHorse
That's not how it was related to me. When you buy a Z51, you're not adding onto the base car - they are each independent model numbers and the formula isn't $2K + $1.2K

But I will double check with my source, thanks
Z51 in an option, not a model in itself. It may be coded or referred to as a separate model but its an optional 'performance package,' not a separate model like a Z06.

Go look at the GM website, old price was 51000 + 2800 for Z51. New price is 53000 + 4000 for a 1LT Z51.
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Originally Posted by KenHorse
See? That's not so hard)
Yep I see and you're wrong.

Originally Posted by kp
Z51 in an option, not a model in itself. It may be coded or referred to as a separate model but its an optional 'performance package,' not a separate model like a Z06.

Go look at the GM website, old price was 51000 + 2800 for Z51. New price is 53000 + 4000 for a 1LT Z51.
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Holy crap.....a source I've trusted when it came to insider GM stuff is wrong!

I stand corrected as to the price increases, I was wrong

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Originally Posted by KenHorse
That's not how it was related to me. When you buy a Z51, you're not adding onto the base car - they are each independent model numbers and the formula isn't $2K + $1.2K

But I will double check with my source, thanks
Well your sources relayed it wrong to you

As others stated, you can't buy a Z51 with a base car so it's a $3200 difference.

You are correct in thinking that the there's only a $1,200 increase in the Z51 package bringing the Z51 package to $4000 over the base price of the car, which increased by $2000 bringing the total increase of $3200 on a Z51 car.
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Originally Posted by KenHorse
Holy crap.....a source I've trusted when it came to insider GM stuff is wrong!

I stand corrected as to the price increases, I was wrong

Price increase or no price increase It is still a great car.
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Originally Posted by KenHorse
I wish folks would PLEASE stop spreading FALSE info.

There is no $3,200 increase. If you're going to bitch about something, at least get your facts straight ....

$1,200 on Z51
$2,000 on base

Sheesh....
Originally Posted by runutzzzzz
Huh? So what you are saying is the 2015 Z51 isn't $3200 more than a 2014?
Originally Posted by nh_mark
Ken,

Not trying to argue, just help clarify.

My car was 66,725 before the increase and it is now 69,925...$3200 difference. So I think what people are confusing is that a Z51 (which contains the base) is really $3200 more than it used to be. $2000 for base plus $1200 for the Z51 option.

-Mark
Originally Posted by KenHorse
No it isn't.

The price increase on a Z51 is only $1,200, not $3,200.....

(the option goes from $2,800 additional to $4,000 additional. That is a $1,200 increase. See? That's not so hard)
Originally Posted by kp
But you cant buy Z51 without buying a base car

So if you want a Z51 it will cost you 3200 more than before the price increase.
Originally Posted by KenHorse
That's not how it was related to me. When you buy a Z51, you're not adding onto the base car - they are each independent model numbers and the formula isn't $2K + $1.2K

But I will double check with my source, thanks
Originally Posted by kp
Z51 in an option, not a model in itself. It may be coded or referred to as a separate model but its an optional 'performance package,' not a separate model like a Z06.

Go look at the GM website, old price was 51000 + 2800 for Z51. New price is 53000 + 4000 for a 1LT Z51.
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Yep I see and you're wrong.



Originally Posted by KenHorse
Holy crap.....a source I've trusted when it came to insider GM stuff is wrong!

I stand corrected as to the price increases, I was wrong

Originally Posted by runutzzzzz
Well your sources relayed it wrong to you

As others stated, you can't buy a Z51 with a base car so it's a $3200 difference.

You are correct in thinking that the there's only a $1,200 increase in the Z51 package bringing the Z51 package to $4000 over the base price of the car, which increased by $2000 bringing the total increase of $3200 on a Z51 car.
Just to clarify for anyone who hasn't read through all of the posts...
  • Under the new pricing, M.S.R.P. on a non-Z51 went up by $2000.
  • M.S.R.P. on a Z51 car went up by $3200.
  • A Z51 car now costs $4000 more than a non-Z51 car; before the price increase, that difference was $2800.

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