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Old 01-28-2014, 08:23 PM
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Very interesting. The instant, maximum torque at 0 RPM Tesla is a monster off the line. Especially for the cars weight.

There was a thread on this video in here already

http://forums.corvetteforum.com/c7-g...-stingray.html
Old 01-28-2014, 08:27 PM
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So the moral of the story is, get the automatic
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Originally Posted by Zymurgy
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Sorry, coverage map is still a joke. Good luck leaving Dallas area for anywhere else.
Au contraire, the number of automobile recharging stations is increasing at a rate faster than just about any new fuel technology in history. It was not that long ago that diesel passenger car owners could refuel only at truck stops. Today, diesel-powered passenger cars can refueled at almost any convenience store that has fuel pumps.

Tesla's Supercharger network already covers the vast majority of the United States population. In another five years--maybe sooner, concerns about charging station availability will seem quaint.
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Originally Posted by MisterMe
Au contraire, the number of automobile recharging stations is increasing at a rate faster than just about any new fuel technology in history. It was not that long ago that diesel passenger car owners could refuel only at truck stops. Today, diesel-powered passenger cars can refueled at almost any convenience store that has fuel pumps.

Tesla's Supercharger network already covers the vast majority of the United States population. In another five years--maybe sooner, concerns about charging station availability will seem quaint.
There are hundreds of chargers (mostly 14-50 outlets for other electric vehicles) in most major cities. That map only shows the Superchargers that Tesla has installed. You can charge a Tesla out of a 110V outlet (granted it takes a while).

There are 25,000 charging stations in the US: http://www.plugshare.com

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Old 01-28-2014, 09:30 PM
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Originally Posted by texex91
There are hundreds of chargers (mostly 14-50 outlets for other electric vehicles) in most major cities. That map only shows the Superchargers that Tesla has installed. You can charge a Tesla out of a 110V outlet (granted it takes a while).
That's my point. Unless you are travelling on this particular route as shown on the map, you can't use a Supercharger. Even with a Supercharge, it takes a minimum of 20 minutes to get to 1/2 charge. Compare that to a gas fill-up of 5 minutes max. Technology and infrastructure are just not there yet. Electrics work for short commutes, not long distance travel.

Number of gas stations in the U.S. 164,292 (DOE)

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Old 01-28-2014, 09:32 PM
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Originally Posted by Zymurgy
That's my point. Unless you are travelling on this particular route as shown on the map, you can't use a Supercharger. Even with a Supercharge, it takes a minimum of 20 minutes to get to 1/2 charge. Compare that to a gas fill-up of 5 minutes max. Technology and infrastructure are just not there yet. Electrics work for short commutes, not long distance travel.
It actually works fine for most travel (I owned one). If you need to travel long distances (Texas to Chicago)--fly.

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I plug it in each night and have 250+ plus miles to drive each day, A/C on or off doesn't make that much of a difference at all... Tesla is way ahead of it's time here.... they are outselling the equivalent Audi, MB and BMW's....

no gas stations, no service, no maintenance...



Originally Posted by ersin
Tesla's are very impressive indeed. Nice looking too. But notice how much faster the Vette is at the end of the 1/4, on both runs. The tech is still not quite there, IMHO. You have limited range, especially if you run the A/C. If it weren't so expensive I would consider getting one. But maybe when the tech matures ...


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Old 01-28-2014, 09:46 PM
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I must say I love my C7 but, I received no rebate from the Goverment, I don't get free fill ups and I don't get a guaranteed buy back. If you have never looked at the Testla website, check it out.
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I must say I love my C7 but, I received no rebate from the Goverment, I don't get free fill ups and I don't get a guaranteed buy back. If you have never looked at the Testla website, check it out.
...and you didn't pay $90k++

The guarantee is about on par with residuals as most cars in its class--not a big deal. an lot of requirement to get that buy back. Again I owned one so know all of the hype.

However, Tesla stock $178, GM $35

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Old 01-28-2014, 10:06 PM
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Originally Posted by FikseGTS
I plug it in each night and have 250+ plus miles to drive each day, A/C on or off doesn't make that much of a difference at all... Tesla is way ahead of it's time here.... they are outselling the equivalent Audi, MB and BMW's....

no gas stations, no service, no maintenance...
250+? That's not the information I heard, but that's pretty darn good. I was told that less than 200 miles was about what you could expect without AC or other heavy electrical load. I'm glad it's this good.

What would be the equivalent Audi, MB and BMW models?


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Originally Posted by texex91
It actually works fine for most travel (I owned one). If you need to travel long distances (Texas to Chicago)--fly.
We enjoy traveling the back roads of America (Route 66, Natchez Trace Parkway, etc.). We can do it in our Corvette, but could not do it in the Tesla.

We do fly for long distance travel - to Europe, Africa, Asia, etc.
Old 01-29-2014, 02:27 AM
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Don't get it. It's Apples and Oranges.

I'm not talking about Electric versus Gas, I'm talking about a $130K Tesla versus a $65K C7 Corvette.

For the money, the 2014 C7 Corvette is a performance bargain, period.
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Originally Posted by 36couper
I'm no fan of electric cars but the Tesla is a nice looking car.
I'd like to see someone yank out the electric motor and install a Z06 drive train. Then you would have a real car!
The argument for all-electric vehicles is pretty thin. If I'm going to make a 2000-mile trip, I don't want to spend a lot of time looking for a charging station, and then waiting to get my batteries re-charged. Give me a five-minute gasoline refill at any interstate gas station, and I'm back on the road for another 400 miles.

And don't even get me started about why electric is not "free." It isn't.
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Originally Posted by texex91
...and you didn't pay $90k++

The guarantee is about on par with residuals as most cars in its class--not a big deal. an lot of requirement to get that buy back. Again I owned one so know all of the hype.

However, Tesla stock $178, GM $35
"There's a sucker born every minute" - PT Barnum, I think.

If you think Tesla is going to be more successful than GM, well good luck with that. Go ahead and throw your money into that toilet, because stock price, in the long run, has little to do with corporate value. Tesla is a fad, imho.

I'll keep driving my C7, and my CTS, and my Laredo. And buying future GM/Chrysler products.
Old 01-29-2014, 03:25 AM
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They now do and will soon do at all these supercharger station (adding new ones every day) a battery swap in less time than it takes to fill up at a gas station, back to full charge in 2-3 minutes.

Tesla also provide electric technology to every major player out there, and does battery packs for most of the industry. The fundamentals are extremely solid, they purchased most of their equipment and location for their factory for pennies on the dollar during the crash.They also address and innovate in the dealership model, in the infrastructure and on the patents. Having studied their fundamentals pretty extensively, I will disagree: their stock is still undervalued with what's coming from them in the next few years. This is nothing like a fad. And this is coming from a guy with 3 V8 engines in his garage.

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Old 01-29-2014, 03:35 AM
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If I had the money for one, I would have bought a Model S instead of my C7. I'm a Corvette guy but I'm also an EV guy too. The Model S allows you to have your cake and eat it too... It's just a really really expensive cake.

Out the door, a Model S would have been $50K more than my loaded C7 Z51. For that kind of money I can have a Volt AND my C7.
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What a start for the C-7 in race one.

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Old 01-29-2014, 08:30 AM
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There are two types of people, those who have driven a Tesla and those that want to drive a Tesla. Both types of people will ultimately want the car after the first test drive.
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The Tesla then limps home if its lucky to have any juice left.
Old 01-29-2014, 08:38 AM
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Maybe it's me but didn't the Tesla jump the green light?


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