Another bitch about rail shipping, complete with timeline
02-02-2014, 12:25 PM
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Just hope the car bolster is not broke they would home shop the car back to unload! 
Just kidding They would still unload where it should go it unless it was unsafe to travel then they would unload and transfer.
Can you get the car number and I can pull it up and see what is going on. Amazing you got that much!
Just kidding They would still unload where it should go it unless it was unsafe to travel then they would unload and transfer.Can you get the car number and I can pull it up and see what is going on. Amazing you got that much!
02-02-2014, 12:44 PM
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Just kidding....don't have a heart attack.....
02-02-2014, 12:50 PM
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02-02-2014, 12:50 PM
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Hate to tell you guys the truth! An autorack car has NO draft gear.
It is called an end of car cushioning device. On each end.
Is a hydraulic unit! Draft gears are in all hopper cars and coal cars and so forth are a like big encased spring.
I have changed both draft and units. It likely more a broken coupler!
A unit would be bad news they might have to order one.
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02-02-2014, 12:58 PM
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If it wasn't for the superbowl. I could get out the ZR1 and pick you up
and we could be in Nampa in about 5 hours if we run about 100mph.
and we could be in Nampa in about 5 hours if we run about 100mph.
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02-02-2014, 01:34 PM
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Hate to tell you guys the truth! An autorack car has NO draft gear.
It is called an end of car cushioning device. On each end.
Is a hydraulic unit! Draft gears are in all hopper cars and coal cars and so forth are a like big encased spring.
I have changed both draft and units. It likely more a broken coupler!
A unit would be bad news they might have to order one.
http://www.icrr.net/terms.htm
And for little more in depth understanding of the draft gear in an automobile rail car(auto rack). read this patent.
http://www.patents.com/us-6821065.html
Even NASA understands what a railroad draft gear is.
http://ntrs.nasa.gov/archive/nasa/ca...1966025391.pdf
And a manufacturer of hydraulic draft gear...
http://www.oleo.co.uk/products/rail/draft-gear
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02-02-2014, 03:24 PM
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This might help you understand the broad meaning of "draft gear".
http://www.icrr.net/terms.htm
And for little more in depth understanding of the draft gear in an automobile rail car(auto rack). read this patent.
http://www.patents.com/us-6821065.html
Even NASA understands what a railroad draft gear is.
http://ntrs.nasa.gov/archive/nasa/ca...1966025391.pdf
And a manufacturer of hydraulic draft gear...
http://www.oleo.co.uk/products/rail/draft-gear
http://www.icrr.net/terms.htm
And for little more in depth understanding of the draft gear in an automobile rail car(auto rack). read this patent.
http://www.patents.com/us-6821065.html
Even NASA understands what a railroad draft gear is.
http://ntrs.nasa.gov/archive/nasa/ca...1966025391.pdf
And a manufacturer of hydraulic draft gear...
http://www.oleo.co.uk/products/rail/draft-gear
I have about had about fifteen course's on rail cars!
About 300 hours at a Certified facility.
All the AAR rules. You don't even know what that is!
Maybe you should look up the cars on UMLER oh! no clue there either!
Sorry Joe but no "draft gears" on a standard bi level or tri level AUTORACK CARS!
They are on like I said used on Coal hopper cars and C 2-6 Grain cars and others where the cushioned impact is not as important.
Like Auto racks! I'm a expert on railcars and trains so forget it!
Certified Rail CAR write-up man you would need a few years to learn. So I KNOW THE PARTS!
Try to order a "draft gear" for an Autorack car. You would get laughed off the phone!
Draft Gear is a specific part for a different coupler carrier not used
on autoracks. Autoracks have a long shank coupler's that have a cushion underframe device that carry's a hydraulic unit.
If call you that a draft gear it is incorrect term.
They give 732 days to pass the test and 72 courses beside the other training I mentioned!
Besides A certified YARDMASTER at one time too!
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02-02-2014, 03:29 PM
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Your kidding
I have about had about fifteen course's on rail cars!
About 300 hours at a Certified facility.
All the AAR rules. You don't even know what that is!
Sorry Joe but no "draft gears" on a standard bi level or tri level AUTORACK CARS!
They are on like I said used on Coal hopper cars and C 2-6 Grain cars and others where the cushioned impact is not as important.
Like Auto racks! I'm a expert on railcars so forget it!
I have about had about fifteen course's on rail cars!
About 300 hours at a Certified facility.
All the AAR rules. You don't even know what that is!
Sorry Joe but no "draft gears" on a standard bi level or tri level AUTORACK CARS!
They are on like I said used on Coal hopper cars and C 2-6 Grain cars and others where the cushioned impact is not as important.
Like Auto racks! I'm a expert on railcars so forget it!
02-02-2014, 03:30 PM
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Your kidding
I have about had about fifteen course's on rail cars!
About 300 hours at a Certified facility.
All the AAR rules. You don't even know what that is!
Sorry Joe but no "draft gears" on a standard bi level or tri level AUTORACK CARS!
They are on like I said used on Coal hopper cars and C 2-6 Grain cars and others where the cushioned impact is not as important.
Like Auto racks! I'm a expert on railcars so forget it!
I have about had about fifteen course's on rail cars!
About 300 hours at a Certified facility.
All the AAR rules. You don't even know what that is!
Sorry Joe but no "draft gears" on a standard bi level or tri level AUTORACK CARS!
They are on like I said used on Coal hopper cars and C 2-6 Grain cars and others where the cushioned impact is not as important.
Like Auto racks! I'm a expert on railcars so forget it!
"The paper describes a means of evaluating freight car draft-gear designs through analytical studies of train action. New designs and design variations may be tested through simulation at an early stage in their development. The simulation approach described in the paper should be of interest to draft-gear manufacturers as well as to railroads. Although a manufacturer may experimentally develop a draft gear to provide a desired characteristic, the simulation approach described will permit selection of the most promising characteristic before component design has started. In turn, the railroad may select on the basis of simulation the draft-gear device best suited to its operating conditions. Included in the paper along with a brief description of the analytical approach are examples illustrating how data required for the input to simulation programs may be developed. A form of performance evaluation for draft-gear devices is suggested. Also included for comparison purposes are results of typical train simulations along data from real-life tests of trains equipped with end-of-car hydraulic draft-gear devices."
http://trid.trb.org/view.aspx?id=13880
02-02-2014, 03:48 PM
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I see them daily and release trains to the engineer's!
I have at least 1 train everyday that's is just auto's.
02-02-2014, 04:39 PM
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I took the darn cars apart daily and rebuilt wreaks before I inspected trains and repaired them for 38 years. I KNOW ALL ABOUT AN AUTORACK! I can drive one too!
I see them daily and release trains to the engineer's!
I have at least 1 train everyday that's is just auto's.
I see them daily and release trains to the engineer's!
I have at least 1 train everyday that's is just auto's.
http://www.nscorp.com/content/dam/ns..._auto_rack.pdf
http://www.nscorp.com/nscorphtml/equ..._auto_rack.pdf
Look at pretty picture of the autorack railcar and......
Scroll down to where it says...
Underframe.............................. ....Hydraulic Draft gear
Last edited by JoesC5; 02-02-2014 at 04:50 PM.
02-02-2014, 04:58 PM
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Guys, for the record the term 'draft gear' has been widely used in a generic sense for a long, looooooong time. For those us old enough when a failure happen out on the 'road' what dispatchers hated to hear was 'we gotta lung' , meaning a broken / fractured coupler / draft gear assembly. Whereas a 'knuckle' (the finger / pivoting part of the coupler) was a relatively easy change out for a crew member. Yes when I started we had cabooses and five man crews.
02-02-2014, 05:04 PM
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Little did I know when I started this thread that it would devolve into a pissing contest as to who knows more about rail than the other guy......
02-02-2014, 05:56 PM
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Yes Paul, I do (40 years) ……. the 'nerve' you speak of is your statement which is FALSE. For the record America's auto mfg have NEVER stopped using railroads as partners in their transportation network of supplies and assembled vehicles. Have there been 'ups and downs' with respect to the long standing relationship, of course but that's reality.
Simple basic economics support the distribution method of rail that is widely used and if one cannot understand it then I shudder at the thought of that individual if being able to drive a Corvette !!
Simple basic economics support the distribution method of rail that is widely used and if one cannot understand it then I shudder at the thought of that individual if being able to drive a Corvette !!
02-02-2014, 06:01 PM
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02-02-2014, 06:45 PM
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02-02-2014, 09:49 PM
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Do you run the NS? if so, then you should jump all over someone's *** as they don't know as much as you do, since you're the expert.
http://www.nscorp.com/content/dam/ns..._auto_rack.pdf
http://www.nscorp.com/nscorphtml/equ..._auto_rack.pdf
Look at pretty picture of the autorack railcar and......
Scroll down to where it says...
Underframe.............................. ....Hydraulic Draft gear
http://www.nscorp.com/content/dam/ns..._auto_rack.pdf
http://www.nscorp.com/nscorphtml/equ..._auto_rack.pdf
Look at pretty picture of the autorack railcar and......
Scroll down to where it says...
Underframe.............................. ....Hydraulic Draft gear
NS made a new term because when hydraulic's is replacing the spring
it called a cushioning unit!
02-03-2014, 07:35 AM
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