Does Chevy not want to sell the new Vette?
01-19-2014, 03:15 PM
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This thread is devolving into silliness
How can they let you drive it home if they don't think it's safe enough for a test drive? Really?
How can they let you drive it home if they don't think it's safe enough for a test drive? Really?
01-19-2014, 03:17 PM
#102
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Ken sold his C6 months ago because he knew the prices would drop because of the interest in the C7. He has been driving my C5 since. There are VERY few dealers in Oregon that even have a C7 and they won't even let you "sit" in them. There is enough talk and reviews on the C7 to know they are great. Don't need to test drive!We are still anxiously waiting and debating if we will drive it back from dealer in Idaho when it arrives there???
01-19-2014, 03:18 PM
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Buy the car and you can drive it anywhere, as again, they don't care....
sheesh...
01-19-2014, 03:20 PM
#104
Burning Brakes
First thing that popped into my head...
Summer Tires w/ 285 Wide Rubber x 30 Degrees x 460 lbs-ft TQ
You're going to have a bad time...
Summer Tires w/ 285 Wide Rubber x 30 Degrees x 460 lbs-ft TQ
You're going to have a bad time...
01-19-2014, 03:22 PM
#105
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This is probably a bad comparison, but what the heck. I have a 2000 Acura TL. It was my daily driver for 150K miles. I love the car to this day and won't sell it. Lots of folks I work with have newer to new TLs. They LOVE them. They tell me how fantastic they are. I drove a recent model, and didn't like it at all. Quite fortunately, as now I commute in a vette!
Why should anyone take your word for it that they'll love a car. It's for them to find out. How much can you tell about a car in 10 minutes. For me - everything I need to know to determine whether or not I want to buy.
I still call BS on this attitude of you don't need to test drive a car.
Why should anyone take your word for it that they'll love a car. It's for them to find out. How much can you tell about a car in 10 minutes. For me - everything I need to know to determine whether or not I want to buy.
I still call BS on this attitude of you don't need to test drive a car.
01-19-2014, 03:24 PM
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So the dealer should be held responsible if you crash your C7 on the way home?
01-19-2014, 03:25 PM
#107
Melting Slicks
Things may be different outside of where I live (LI-NY), but around here dealers won't let you test drive any vehicle (even an suv) if it is raining or there is snow on the ground anywhere, so restricting a Corvette to above 45 doesn't seem unreasonable.
As for the tire issues: if you want a car to pull 1.0g on the skidpad, it isn't happening on anything but summer only tires and at temps above 75 degrees.
For those complaining about the choice of tire, maybe something along the lines of a Grand Cherokee SRT-8 would be a better choice if you need performance in all conditions - or just do what GM says: install proper winter tires.
As for the tire issues: if you want a car to pull 1.0g on the skidpad, it isn't happening on anything but summer only tires and at temps above 75 degrees.
For those complaining about the choice of tire, maybe something along the lines of a Grand Cherokee SRT-8 would be a better choice if you need performance in all conditions - or just do what GM says: install proper winter tires.
01-19-2014, 03:31 PM
#108
Le Mans Master
But finally I got a call to go in for a test drive. Needless to say I was flattered.
Not surprisingly the car was a thrill to drive, met all my expectations, and those were high expectations.
So I took a bunch of pics and texted them to the wife. She had heard about the C7 from me many times but never saw one.
Guess what, she hated the tail lights!
I had said many times here I loved the new style, even the new tail light design. The success of the initial C7 sales seemed to support my view.
But I wasn't prepared that in my case, the new tail lights will likely ruin my prospect of getting the C7
Not surprisingly the car was a thrill to drive, met all my expectations, and those were high expectations.
So I took a bunch of pics and texted them to the wife. She had heard about the C7 from me many times but never saw one.
Guess what, she hated the tail lights!
I had said many times here I loved the new style, even the new tail light design. The success of the initial C7 sales seemed to support my view.
But I wasn't prepared that in my case, the new tail lights will likely ruin my prospect of getting the C7
01-19-2014, 03:32 PM
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I would think that they would tell customers picking up their car during colder weather about the tire issue , and if they choose to drive, so be it...
I agree with the dealership.....
Buy somewhere else if you are so upset with the dealership....It would be better for everyone.....
01-19-2014, 03:58 PM
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Although most points above are valid, the bottom line is, right now the dealers don't have to allow test drives in order to move the C7s, pure and simple. So why take the risk?
I had no problem test driving several C6 GSs with MSRP higher than the C7s sitting in the showrooms, but until yesterday, they didn't let me test drive a C7.
But finally I got a call to go in for a test drive. Needless to say I was flattered.
Not surprisingly the car was a thrill to drive, met all my expectations, and those were high expectations.
So I took a bunch of pics and texted them to the wife. She had heard about the C7 from me many times but never saw one.
Guess what, she hated the tail lights!
I had said many times here I loved the new style, even the new tail light design. The success of the initial C7 sales seemed to support my view.
But I wasn't prepared that in my case, the new tail lights will likely ruin my prospect of getting the C7.
Before anyone telling me don't listen to the wife, it's your car, unfortunately in my case it will be our car, so her opinions are critical.
Back to the subject, the test drive situation will improve, be patient.
The traditional vett drivers don't see this. GM is hoping to attract conquest buyers, who are accustomed to test drives.
To the OP, if you like your C5, rest assured you will love the C7 much more.
I had no problem test driving several C6 GSs with MSRP higher than the C7s sitting in the showrooms, but until yesterday, they didn't let me test drive a C7.
But finally I got a call to go in for a test drive. Needless to say I was flattered.
Not surprisingly the car was a thrill to drive, met all my expectations, and those were high expectations.
So I took a bunch of pics and texted them to the wife. She had heard about the C7 from me many times but never saw one.
Guess what, she hated the tail lights!
I had said many times here I loved the new style, even the new tail light design. The success of the initial C7 sales seemed to support my view.
But I wasn't prepared that in my case, the new tail lights will likely ruin my prospect of getting the C7.
Before anyone telling me don't listen to the wife, it's your car, unfortunately in my case it will be our car, so her opinions are critical.
Back to the subject, the test drive situation will improve, be patient.
The traditional vett drivers don't see this. GM is hoping to attract conquest buyers, who are accustomed to test drives.
To the OP, if you like your C5, rest assured you will love the C7 much more.
01-19-2014, 04:00 PM
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We went to a Caddy dealer to look at a '14 CTS-V Sport.
I just wanted a price, had zero intention of driving the car because it was 0 degree's and the roads were absolute crap, sheets of ice for the most part.
They offered me the keys and I was surprised. At 80 on the freeway it would break the back end loose. I took it for a short spin and we returned it to come back when the weather was better. If I was the sales person no way would I have put those keys in most people's hands in that weather. I had a blast driving it but lots of on track experience in everything from good to terrible weather.
I can kind of see their point and I can also see it from a sales standpoint. You bring the car and back and say you did not like it because the car rode like crap, which it will in tires designed for summer and instead are driving in freezing weather.
When you go back and its warm and they give you the same answer then walk.
I just wanted a price, had zero intention of driving the car because it was 0 degree's and the roads were absolute crap, sheets of ice for the most part.
They offered me the keys and I was surprised. At 80 on the freeway it would break the back end loose. I took it for a short spin and we returned it to come back when the weather was better. If I was the sales person no way would I have put those keys in most people's hands in that weather. I had a blast driving it but lots of on track experience in everything from good to terrible weather.
I can kind of see their point and I can also see it from a sales standpoint. You bring the car and back and say you did not like it because the car rode like crap, which it will in tires designed for summer and instead are driving in freezing weather.
When you go back and its warm and they give you the same answer then walk.
01-19-2014, 04:04 PM
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Simple....It's their problem if you crash their car....Your problem if you crash yours....
I would think that they would tell customers picking up their car during colder weather about the tire issue , and if they choose to drive, so be it...
I agree with the dealership.....
Buy somewhere else if you are so upset with the dealership....It would be better for everyone.....
I would think that they would tell customers picking up their car during colder weather about the tire issue , and if they choose to drive, so be it...
I agree with the dealership.....
Buy somewhere else if you are so upset with the dealership....It would be better for everyone.....
01-19-2014, 04:12 PM
#113
This is probably a bad comparison, but what the heck. I have a 2000 Acura TL. It was my daily driver for 150K miles. I love the car to this day and won't sell it. Lots of folks I work with have newer to new TLs. They LOVE them. They tell me how fantastic they are. I drove a recent model, and didn't like it at all. Quite fortunately, as now I commute in a vette!
Why should anyone take your word for it that they'll love a car. It's for them to find out. How much can you tell about a car in 10 minutes. For me - everything I need to know to determine whether or not I want to buy.
I still call BS on this attitude of you don't need to test drive a car.
Why should anyone take your word for it that they'll love a car. It's for them to find out. How much can you tell about a car in 10 minutes. For me - everything I need to know to determine whether or not I want to buy.
I still call BS on this attitude of you don't need to test drive a car.
Tough. That's the nature of sales. When you decide to get defensive with an interested buyer, you're trying to lose the sale. Were I the OP, I would stay on that dealer to get a test drive, then do whatever was necessary not to buy it from them. I would instead use their price as a price to beat by the dealer I did buy from.
01-19-2014, 04:33 PM
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01-19-2014, 04:36 PM
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Tough. That's the nature of sales. When you decide to get defensive with an interested buyer, you're trying to lose the sale. Were I the OP, I would stay on that dealer to get a test drive, then do whatever was necessary not to buy it from them. I would instead use their price as a price to beat by the dealer I did buy from.
01-19-2014, 04:42 PM
#117
Le Mans Master
People have already advised you what to do; wait for a warmer day or buy something else. But you seem intent on arguing.
01-19-2014, 04:44 PM
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Le Mans Master
Let Joe go rent one if he wants to have fun at another's expense.
01-19-2014, 04:49 PM
#119
Melting Slicks
Interesting. Complaining about dealers not giving rides.....elsewhere there is a thread about buyers complaining about their new car having 5 miles on it. If I was a Chevy dealer I'd say no to any Corvette sales. Too much hassle.
01-19-2014, 04:51 PM
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I once heard a dealer friend of mine that wins CSI awards all the time say that the reason dealers are such jerks is the public are jerks too......
I agree 100%.....
I agree 100%.....