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Is a 500Hp "base" Corvette coming

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I have nothing on this but I remember all those saying blah blah, the LT1 could have more power this and that. Well with the Z06 being north of 600, could it be that in coming years the base engine gets a power boost?
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Nope! Right now GM is looking to make money. I believe they will ride these two models to the sunset, and hopefully get some volume and some profits. And if the C7 puts up some numbers ( damn this is a good car) then maybe a third HP option gets introduced dow the line
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It's possible. When the specs on the 2015 Mustang are released, it may be close in weight AND power to the base C7 if the rumors are true. If that's the case, I think it would be wise to bump the power in the base Vette a bit. I know they aren't competing cars, but the Vette was always ahead of the Mustang in ALL performance categories.

THAT is the one thing that is making me want to wait. I really don't care what care what other changes they may make to cosmetics, features etc. The car is awesome, but if they offer more power in stock form for the base Vette, I definitely want it.
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I think you can count on it. Based on what some of the tuners are getting, it seems that the LT1 has plenty of headroom for HP increase. I'd almost bet that GM sandbagged the initial HP so that it could be easily increased in the future. My guess is that the 2016 will be 500HP.

Pure conjecture on my part; your conjecture may vary.
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seeing with the last generation, the LS2 went from 400 to the LS3's 430. a 30 bump would be 490 and the nice round number of 500 sounds much better to me.... Throw in some Z06 goodies, next Grand Sport?
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Originally Posted by Lemans24
seeing with the last generation, the LS2 went from 400 to the LS3's 430. a 30 bump would be 490 and the nice round number of 500 sounds much better to me.... Throw in some Z06 goodies, next Grand Sport?
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Originally Posted by -CM-
I think you can count on it. Based on what some of the tuners are getting, it seems that the LT1 has plenty of headroom for HP increase. I'd almost bet that GM sandbagged the initial HP so that it could be easily increased in the future. My guess is that the 2016 will be 500HP.

Pure conjecture on my part; your conjecture may vary.
I agree for the most part, but I don't see 500 HP happening personally. That's a pretty significant increase, IMO. I could see it getting into the 470 range, and 480+ with NPP.
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I think a 500+ HP "base" Corvette is inevitable. However, I think it will be the C8. If what has been said about year ago holds true, I wouldn't look for another 9 year generation run. I would give this one 5-6 years tops.

When they rolled out the C7 I read somewhere that they expected the C7 to run 5 years. I agree with this for two reasons, 1: the advancement of technology seems to increase exponentially. 2: If they want to keep sales robust without handing out large discounts, they will need to keep the car fresh, and nothing does that like a new generation.
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I think for about $5k a good supercharger will get you well into the 5s. Question is if GM offered the same increase in hp, what would that set you back?....maybe more, maybe less depending on other upgrades to the car overall.
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Originally Posted by $$$frumnuttin'
I think for about $5k a good supercharger will get you well into the 5s. Question is if GM offered the same increase in hp, what would that set you back?....maybe more, maybe less depending on other upgrades to the car overall.
depends on how safe they went with the engine, its been discussed thoroughly how some thought with the improvements made to the LT1, that a 30 HP bump from the LS3 seemed very small.
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Originally Posted by dovervold
Nope! Right now GM is looking to make money. I believe they will ride these two models to the sunset, and hopefully get some volume and some profits. And if the C7 puts up some numbers ( damn this is a good car) then maybe a third HP option gets introduced dow the line
while the Corvette obviously makes money for GM, its not the bread and butter like its trucks.
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I believe there is a possibility the introduction of the 8 speed automatic could allow the standard corvette to move its hp and torque rating closer to 500 hp.

485 is more likely.
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430/400 == ~490/455

Could be an easy bump to get close to 500 even with this generation. If not, definitively the next one. Assuming it doesn't go hybrid of some sort.

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Originally Posted by -CM-
My guess is that the 2016 will be 500HP.
I hope so. I'll be ready to buy in the fall, so that would be the 2015's. Since winter will be approaching, I'm thinking about just waiting until Spring and seeing what 2016 has in store, since I wouldn't be able to drive it anyway. If they bump the power for 2016, I'll be happy as all hell
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Originally Posted by sfc rick
Why care what GM does? If you want more HP, jump on it and supercharge it! It will be much less in $$$$ to increase the power yourself then wait for a car that will cost much more and generally less HP than you could install yourself.

Look at the C7 Z06.... it's only got 620hp and I'm sure it's going to run near 90,000 to 100,000.

Most of us already surpass those #'s in power...at least those of us who build our own stuff.

I think most of you C7 guys don't have to wait for GM, just add boost and enjoy!
It depends on how it gets that extra power. If they just tune it more aggressively then yes, that is something we can easily do to our cars for a minimal cost. If they increase the displacement at all like they did going from the LS2 to the LS3, that is much more complicated and expensive to do ourselves. It would be nice to have that extra power coming from something like increased displacement from factory. Gives us more overall potential.
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Simple answer: No.

A 500 HP base car won't sell nearly as well as you'd think. There's people that are highly afraid of handling THAT much power. While 460 isn't that far off, it's still sounds like less.

That's why prices on things are "$99.99" Because it still sounds like it's less than $100.
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Originally Posted by SCM_Crash
Simple answer: No.

A 500 HP base car won't sell nearly as well as you'd think. There's people that are highly afraid of handling THAT much power. While 460 isn't that far off, it's still sounds like less.

That's why prices on things are "$99.99" Because it still sounds like it's less than $100.
People are not in the sports car market because they are afraid of HP!! We want more HP!!!!!

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Originally Posted by Blackdevil77
It depends on how it gets that extra power. If they just tune it more aggressively then yes, that is something we can easily do to our cars for a minimal cost. If they increase the displacement at all like they did going from the LS2 to the LS3, that is much more complicated and expensive to do ourselves. It would be nice to have that extra power coming from something like increased displacement from factory. Gives us more overall potential.
We won't see a displacement increase. We are lucky to have a 6.2 liter.

I believe 485 hp is a tune away and if needed a cam profile change at moist.

Transmission change will facilitate hp bump. Not much improvement in acceleration too 60 mph from 2014 model..if anything..

Trap speed in quarter mile possibly .2 the and 2 mph at best...in manual....3 tenths and 3 mph with 8 speed auto.
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Originally Posted by SCM_Crash
Simple answer: No.

A 500 HP base car won't sell nearly as well as you'd think. There's people that are highly afraid of handling THAT much power. While 460 isn't that far off, it's still sounds like less.

That's why prices on things are "$99.99" Because it still sounds like it's less than $100.
So it will be 499 HP?
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Originally Posted by JudgeNjury
We won't see a displacement increase. We are lucky to have a 6.2 liter.

I believe 485 hp is a tune away and if needed a cam profile change at moist.

Transmission change will facilitate hp bump. Not much improvement in acceleration too 60 mph from 2014 model..if anything..

Trap speed in quarter mile possibly .2 the and 2 mph at best...in manual....3 tenths and 3 mph with 8 speed auto.
A cam profile change would be fine with me. It's still on the more complicated side and involves the car coming with better hardware.



When do you think we would see a bump like this, if they do it? 2016 model year? 2017? Quick, somebody take out their crystal ball.

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