Calling out any C7 owner to run my C6!
#601
Team Owner
I like my car just as much as the next person but I'm not blind to the facts. There are numerous examples of stock (on slicks) C6Z's in the mid to high 10's and absolutely ZERO examples of a C7 doing the same, so if you honestly think that "same track same time" will make a difference then sadly I must question your sanity.
Last edited by themonk; 01-07-2014 at 12:37 AM.
#603
Scraping the splitter.
I like my car just as much as the next person but I'm not blind to the facts. There are numerous examples of stock C6Z's in the mid to high 10's and absolutely ZERO examples of a C7 doing the same, so if you honestly think that "same track same time" will make a difference then sadly I must question your sanity.
S.
#604
Team Owner
#605
Scraping the splitter.
C7's have been out for 3 months, let's talk again in 7 years, which is how long it's taken for the C6 Z06 Fast List to populate.
I don't need to show you anything, as I don't rely on internet racing. Let's get a stock C6 Z06 to OSW to run a stock C7 A6.
S.
#606
Team Owner
Oh, so now it has to have slicks.
C7's have been out for 3 months, let's talk again in 7 years, which is how long it's taken for the C6 Z06 Fast List to populate.
I don't need to show you anything, as I don't rely on internet racing. Let's get a stock C6 Z06 to OSW to run a stock C7 A6.
S.
C7's have been out for 3 months, let's talk again in 7 years, which is how long it's taken for the C6 Z06 Fast List to populate.
I don't need to show you anything, as I don't rely on internet racing. Let's get a stock C6 Z06 to OSW to run a stock C7 A6.
S.
#607
Yes, both of them the '12 much more than the '13 (which, surprisingly, I have only had out twice).
The '12 only ever managed an 11.4 at 122 in spring (warm, humid) air at Orlando Speedworld. That's when the track was under previous ownership and horribly prepped. So everybody was slow, lol. It ended up getting modded about 5 months after I bought it and was running pretty consistent 10.8-.9's. Then I upgraded turbos and did a few other things and haven't really had it back to the track. On a low-boost pass on pump gas at PBIR it went 10.4 at 132 mph as I recall.
The '13 went 11.008 at 124.30 on a 1.652 60' at Etown in December air (it was in the 40's that day). It's #7 on the stock GT-R list on GT-RLife and about .2/2 mph slower than the #1 car. I'd guess, same day at Etown, my C7 would have gone an 11.4-.5 in the 120 mph range.
S.
The '12 only ever managed an 11.4 at 122 in spring (warm, humid) air at Orlando Speedworld. That's when the track was under previous ownership and horribly prepped. So everybody was slow, lol. It ended up getting modded about 5 months after I bought it and was running pretty consistent 10.8-.9's. Then I upgraded turbos and did a few other things and haven't really had it back to the track. On a low-boost pass on pump gas at PBIR it went 10.4 at 132 mph as I recall.
The '13 went 11.008 at 124.30 on a 1.652 60' at Etown in December air (it was in the 40's that day). It's #7 on the stock GT-R list on GT-RLife and about .2/2 mph slower than the #1 car. I'd guess, same day at Etown, my C7 would have gone an 11.4-.5 in the 120 mph range.
S.
I see. I heard some GTR(s?) pulled 1.5xx 60ft @ stock tires. Never could find out if that was true or they were running DRs. Still 11 flat is no slouch
#608
Team Owner
Most C6z drivers aren't going to do that, which is the point Snorman is making. The Z requires a damn good driver to pull faster than 11.4-11.6 times at the track. Automatics are almost impossible to beat at the drag strip.
#609
Le Mans Master
there are not enough nails; this thread will never die--even if there were a race, which is inevitable at some point if this forum has any real drivers in it.
he*l, i ll run myself if someone can get an opposing vehicle/driver (what was it, an ls3) and a place. wait, even a better idea: the ultimate race and the ultimate marketing play. get all models from 1953 forward, together, in one place, this summer, and determine, once and for all, the great ranking, top to bottom. fastest to slowest (1953 stock was probably the slowest, the rest will be determined on race day). anyone got the contacts/interest in putting this together? would be a lot of fun, and solve that age old question: whos is BIGGER?? this would be the racing event of the decade, and entail a lot of effort; and/or--
what about one of the major forum players--rick conti, kerbeck (you know them all, better than me)--sponsoring this thing; yikes, the marketing play! or, yea, what about Chevrolet sponsoring it--think BIG! somebodys going to have to contact these guys and plant the seed here. i dont know anybody.
yea, there are some major issues, like who can race--maybe limit it to non-pros (people who never raced for money). also, all stock, no mods? mods make it silly--head to head, engine to engine is the only way to go. also, what is the venue, straight 1/4 mile drag race.....you know what? too much work for someone who has never done this before. we need to get an event organizer/planner/sponsor/etc. count me out. hey, i cant do it all. take my idea, take all the credit for it, and run.
he*l, i ll run myself if someone can get an opposing vehicle/driver (what was it, an ls3) and a place. wait, even a better idea: the ultimate race and the ultimate marketing play. get all models from 1953 forward, together, in one place, this summer, and determine, once and for all, the great ranking, top to bottom. fastest to slowest (1953 stock was probably the slowest, the rest will be determined on race day). anyone got the contacts/interest in putting this together? would be a lot of fun, and solve that age old question: whos is BIGGER?? this would be the racing event of the decade, and entail a lot of effort; and/or--
what about one of the major forum players--rick conti, kerbeck (you know them all, better than me)--sponsoring this thing; yikes, the marketing play! or, yea, what about Chevrolet sponsoring it--think BIG! somebodys going to have to contact these guys and plant the seed here. i dont know anybody.
yea, there are some major issues, like who can race--maybe limit it to non-pros (people who never raced for money). also, all stock, no mods? mods make it silly--head to head, engine to engine is the only way to go. also, what is the venue, straight 1/4 mile drag race.....you know what? too much work for someone who has never done this before. we need to get an event organizer/planner/sponsor/etc. count me out. hey, i cant do it all. take my idea, take all the credit for it, and run.
driver out of the equation. I don't think that will ever happen or is even likely!
#610
Race Director
#611
Le Mans Master
Originally Posted by meadowz06;15calling out any driver of a new Z 06 to race me I don't think there that fast85854440
I'm glad I CRACK you up. But here are the facts: We ALL know by his videos, that Snorman is a fantastic driver. What we NOW know is that the driver of the C6 is NOT near as good as the driver of the C7. I was stating the OBVIOUS, that it would be MUCH closer between the two cars if the driver skills were equal. So go amuse yourself all you want, but you know as well as I do, the cars would be VERY close indeed with equally skilled drivers. It is posers like you that give the C7 crowd a bad name. I cannot wait for the Z06 to be introduced, so people like YOU will be silenced!
Ok...ok......I am "calling out any driver of a new Z06"..... I do not think they are that fast.........
Right lane is the C7.
#612
Le Mans Master
Originally Posted by meadowz06;15calling out any driver of a new Z 06 to race me I don't think there that fast85854440
I'm glad I CRACK you up. But here are the facts: We ALL know by his videos, that Snorman is a fantastic driver. What we NOW know is that the driver of the C6 is NOT near as good as the driver of the C7. I was stating the OBVIOUS, that it would be MUCH closer between the two cars if the driver skills were equal. So go amuse yourself all you want, but you know as well as I do, the cars would be VERY close indeed with equally skilled drivers. It is posers like you that give the C7 crowd a bad name. I cannot wait for the Z06 to be introduced, so people like YOU will be silenced!
Ok...ok......I am "calling out any driver of a new Z06"..... I do not think they are that fast.........
Right lane is the C7.
#613
No one I think is questioning the fact that a zo6 can under the right circumstances with a great driver put up a better time than a stock c7. The point is that most drivers will be able to go to the track and run close to the times snorman runs without any effort. Even the best zo6 drivers will not cut a great light and still run low 11's to beat a c7. The thread with the zo6 times shows the absolute best times for a zo6 without trying to have a good reaction time as in an actual race. Put the two cars together stock for stock first to the finish line and the c7 will win most of the time. The zo6 may run a better time but it won't cross the line first.
#614
Le Mans Master
Yep...put an auto in the C6 Z06 and lights out for the C7! The Z wont even need the higher stall the C7 has.
#615
Team Owner
#616
Melting Slicks
It takes a lot more driver skill to make a good pass in a manually shifted car. That is why the c6z snorman is a toss up because 9 out of 10 drivers in the zo6 can't drive stick. Now if someone wants to let me make a pass in their c6z I would LOVE TO RUN SNORMANS C7!
#617
Safety Car
I'm glad I CRACK you up. But here are the facts: We ALL know by his videos, that Snorman is a fantastic driver. What we NOW know is that the driver of the C6 is NOT near as good as the driver of the C7. I was stating the OBVIOUS, that it would be MUCH closer between the two cars if the driver skills were equal. So go amuse yourself all you want, but you know as well as I do, the cars would be VERY close indeed with equally skilled drivers. It is posers like you that give the C7 crowd a bad name. I cannot wait for the Z06 to be introduced, so people like YOU will be silenced!
Last edited by Mike's LS3; 01-07-2014 at 01:24 PM.
#618
Scraping the splitter.
No, you're on the "internet bench racers" list. Some of us are actually on the "reality list" because we are the ones who actually go to the track and race our cars while others sit on the internet and speculate. This is the reason I have no desire to engage or promote your ridiculous attempts at bench racing to speculate what the C6 would have run with a different driver. Using the example that mags use a single driver like Randy Probst when they are testing on a 2 mile road course is actually laughable.
Watch the video. He left with no wheel spin and in automatic mode, there's not much (if anything) left in that car. I don't expect those of you who want to live in denial to believe otherwise.
S.
Watch the video. He left with no wheel spin and in automatic mode, there's not much (if anything) left in that car. I don't expect those of you who want to live in denial to believe otherwise.
S.
#619
Team Owner
How much skill is involved in driving an automatic down the 1/4 mile. I've only done my C5 down the 1/4 and it was an MN6....I can see having a good RT but other than that it seems to me plant the throttle and go.
#620
Le Mans Master