Can we look just how ludicrous it is for GM to ship by rail?
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It does not cost GM nothing at all to ship , we pay for it on the $750 charge when you by a car I think they call it DESTINATION charge , GM is laughing all the way to the bank with our money
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And the charge is $995.
By the way "does not cost nothing" is a double negative. Which implies, it does cost something.
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be simpler especially if the dealers make their same money. That way a person could have their car shipped or they could pick it up and drive it back with the $995 saved. Just have some service company there that would prep it for a $200.
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Does anybody here actually know what it costs GM to ship by rail or ship only by truck from BG? I doubt the OP knows beans about it, and is just mad about not having the car and is making up theories. Humans have done likewise from the dawn of time, and that's how we determined that winter and summer are due to the Hades-Persephone-Zeus incident involving some pomegranate seeds.
Does anybody know why, if we transport things by truck or train, we still say they're shipped? There's no ship anywhere!
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Just to put it into perspective on how GM and the union rules make a mess of things: every Corvette that is delivered at the Museum is shipped by truck from the plant. By road it is 800 yards - less than 1/2 mile - from the factory to the museum. Tell me how that makes sense?
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Do you get an invoice on your car? My car was invoiced last Wednesday and is getting on the train this Wednesday VIA Michigan, than its a short truck drive from East Brookfield MA
Do you get an invoice on your car? My car was invoiced last Wednesday and is getting on the train this Wednesday VIA Michigan, than its a short truck drive from East Brookfield MA
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your forgetting corporate bureaucracy, layovers and load times there ain't no way in hell a train with that many loads and unloads is going to beat a semi. Now if the train was right outside the plant and your dealership was at the end the train would win. But that ain't happening. Trains should be used to carry heavy stuff that can't be damaged easily like a 75 thousand dollar car.
All I am saying is even if a truck is faster I still would bet the train is not much slower just because of the fact that there is no stopping a train or slowing it down due to bad road conditions due to weatherWhen a truck needs to make a fuel stop I would bet it probably takes almost two hours to fuel up.
On the British TV show "Top Gear" they take a super fast car and race against a train or boat and sometimes the sports car that can travel at almost 200 MPH looses to a car. How well would a train do against a truck, I think it would be closer than most people think it would be.
Even if a truck was 8 hours faster would it really matter, The final deliver time is restricted to when the dealer is open for business.
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With a truck the driver is limited to how many hours he can drive each day, if you add in the food and "P" stops, plus traffic lights it has to be closer than you think. The wheels on that train are turning 24/7 and i bet the route the tracks take are more of a straight line while the route an interstate forces a truck to travel are more N / S and E / W while tracks may run SW / NE. When I travel from SC to NY I need to head north till I get to Harrisburg then head east from Harrisburg to NY. If it were possible to drive NE without driving on roads with 30 MPH speed limits I could probably cut off a couple hundred miles from the trip.
All I am saying is even if a truck is faster I still would bet the train is not much slower just because of the fact that there is no stopping a train or slowing it down due to bad road conditions due to weatherWhen a truck needs to make a fuel stop I would bet it probably takes almost two hours to fuel up.
On the British TV show "Top Gear" they take a super fast car and race against a train or boat and sometimes the sports car that can travel at almost 200 MPH looses to a car. How well would a train do against a truck, I think it would be closer than most people think it would be.
Even if a truck was 8 hours faster would it really matter, The final deliver time is restricted to when the dealer is open for business.
All I am saying is even if a truck is faster I still would bet the train is not much slower just because of the fact that there is no stopping a train or slowing it down due to bad road conditions due to weatherWhen a truck needs to make a fuel stop I would bet it probably takes almost two hours to fuel up.
On the British TV show "Top Gear" they take a super fast car and race against a train or boat and sometimes the sports car that can travel at almost 200 MPH looses to a car. How well would a train do against a truck, I think it would be closer than most people think it would be.
Even if a truck was 8 hours faster would it really matter, The final deliver time is restricted to when the dealer is open for business.
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I too am extremely frustrated. My car shipped around two weeks ago, and as far as I know it's not even headed to california yet. The shipping process should NOT take a month or more, that is unacceptable. I would understand if it was being shipped to Hawaii or something, but come on.
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damn unions screw up everything. I guess your right I should just try to be patient(which I am not btw) I originally ordered a c7 at a local dealer and not getting a call for a whole month to start build decided to I was going to buy a 911 turbo instead. Then I nice poster on here told me of a spec a car a dealer had and it was built 11/1 so I instantly put money down on it. The salesman is super cool and told me it would be here in a 10 to 12 days and 1/2 way through is when gm decided to use rail and now a month later no car. I sure hope you picked the 1000 museum delivery and not have to go through all this rail mess.
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It also does not cost GM anything for the motor, nor does it cost anything for the tires, and it does not cost them anything to have people come into the factory and put them together
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Just to put it into perspective on how GM and the union rules make a mess of things: every Corvette that is delivered at the Museum is shipped by truck from the plant. By road it is 800 yards - less than 1/2 mile - from the factory to the museum. Tell me how that makes sense?
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unions didn't build crap employees do all the building - all unions do is take fees from hard working employees and cause strikes. You should know that Jimmy Hoffa. hmm i guess you weren't dead afterall.
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So who exactly takes your car from the factory final assembly area to the parking lot? And then who loads and unloads it off a car carrier?
I'd rather have my car driven the 800 yards on Corvette Drive, which runs directly from the Factory to the Museum without being on any public roads than have it loaded and unloaded off a car carrier. And, I am sure for the $995 delivery fee per car, we could move the 6-12 cars delivered at the museum every day with just 1 extra employee and still make a financial killing on the arrangement.