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Burning Brakes
I'm having this issue also. I think it may be related to the "hill hold" brake feature. It seems to hold too long after I release the brake and apply the throttle. A couple of time I've even killed the engine! I usually keep it in "Tour" mode, so I will try "Sport" and see if that makes a difference.
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Sounds like rotational inertia to me. The Chevy V8 has always seemed to have had slow low speed acceleration, and you add the variable cam, cylinder deactivation, a heavy flywheel and clutch and or torque converter, it can't help any.
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The Chevy V8 has always seemed to have had slow low speed acceleration,
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Like I said in my post earlier, this is simply a GM ECM programming issue- they reduce how much throttle is applied in low RPMs most likely- I had the same problem but once I installed the Pfadt tune all that went away. Now low RPM throttle response is so much better it can break tires loose from a dead stop with hardly any throttle. I assume GM doesn't want the average person to have that much power off the line because they could break the tires loose easier and it's a bit too sensitive for the average joe.
There's no secret and nothing more here than GM neutering the thing in stock form. Tune it, and it's gone. Plus you get more power and the tune eliminates the Skip-shift crap.
There's no secret and nothing more here than GM neutering the thing in stock form. Tune it, and it's gone. Plus you get more power and the tune eliminates the Skip-shift crap.
There are several areas that attenuate full power.
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I love my C7, but this is a source of constant irritation. I get better throttle response in my BMW 740, which is a boat.
The rest of the C7 is so precise and responsive, the low RPM throttle respose is really out of character. Is this some kind of safety measure to keep rookies from getting sideways. Is there a fix without affecting the warranty?
Edit: I typed this after reading only the original post. What follows seems to answer my questions. Thank you.
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I have been waiting for someone knowledgebale to comment on this.
I love my C7, but this is a source of constant irritation. I get better throttle response in my BMW 740, which is a boat.
The rest of the C7 is so precise and responsive, the low RPM throttle respose is really out of character. Is this some kind of safety measure to keep rookies from getting sideways. Is there a fix without affecting the warranty?
I love my C7, but this is a source of constant irritation. I get better throttle response in my BMW 740, which is a boat.
The rest of the C7 is so precise and responsive, the low RPM throttle respose is really out of character. Is this some kind of safety measure to keep rookies from getting sideways. Is there a fix without affecting the warranty?
I actually think a lazy throttle is a safety hazard rather than a benefit, because the juice is not there when you need to get out of a tough spot. I can also see the benefit of not having a noob spin it, but that's what AH/TC is there for. That said, the electronic nanny in my C6 is absent at very low speeds.
Anyway, sounds like a tune will solve the issue.
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PE mode is open loop. An example of the throttle position we use on our Z06 is 25%. Touch the throttle and the tires light up any time we are over 25% TP.
Some tuners turn off CL when tuning for e85, I do not. I like having the 9.85:1 ratio in closed loop normal driving, but go to PE enable at slightly heavier foot.
I know this can be tuned out, but I mentioned the issue only as a minor annoyance. Going from 3.89lbs/hp with 629lb-ft torque and 2777 lbs, to an auto C7 is just a big change.
The C7 auto is still an amazing car. Lauching the car from a dead stop would simply blow away the tires if all TM nannies were shut off.
Some tuners turn off CL when tuning for e85, I do not. I like having the 9.85:1 ratio in closed loop normal driving, but go to PE enable at slightly heavier foot.
I know this can be tuned out, but I mentioned the issue only as a minor annoyance. Going from 3.89lbs/hp with 629lb-ft torque and 2777 lbs, to an auto C7 is just a big change.
The C7 auto is still an amazing car. Lauching the car from a dead stop would simply blow away the tires if all TM nannies were shut off.
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Bet you had a hole under the filter too. Any time you open the radiator shroud with our MAF forward design, you will have issues. It was designed to work only with the NACA duct.
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That's kinda funny, I test drove a 2014 GMC pick up, this weekend. It did the same thing, it seemed like it was "turbo lag" in 1st gear from a dead stop. It just drove weird.
I thought it was in 4 cyl. mode and was having trouble getting going. Hope that's not the "new" way of doing things around GM.
I thought it was in 4 cyl. mode and was having trouble getting going. Hope that's not the "new" way of doing things around GM.