Disappointed in paint, panel fit
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Disappointed in paint, panel fit
Saw these three Ron Fellows Vettes at the Venetian Hotel today waiting to be loaded in for SEMA. This is the first opportunity I've had to really spend some time examining the C7.
As the photos show, two of the cars had misaligned rear bumpers. All three had the paint chip right below the third brakelight, and all three cars had extreme orange peel and too much paint at many seam edges. I love the C7 and still hope to buy one, but this stuff is just unacceptable on such an expensive car.....especially when most far cheaper cars do not have such consistent issues. All three cars look like they needed to be block sanded. Seriously?? Worst paint I've even seen on a modern car.
This is such a stunning, amazing car I hope they workout these problems out soon. It's a shame for such a great effort by GM to fall short at the one yard line.
As the photos show, two of the cars had misaligned rear bumpers. All three had the paint chip right below the third brakelight, and all three cars had extreme orange peel and too much paint at many seam edges. I love the C7 and still hope to buy one, but this stuff is just unacceptable on such an expensive car.....especially when most far cheaper cars do not have such consistent issues. All three cars look like they needed to be block sanded. Seriously?? Worst paint I've even seen on a modern car.
This is such a stunning, amazing car I hope they workout these problems out soon. It's a shame for such a great effort by GM to fall short at the one yard line.
Last edited by VETTE-NV; 11-03-2013 at 11:05 PM.
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A couple more. The cell phone couldn't really capture a clear shot of the orange peel, but it's even worse than shown in the photo. There isn't any mass produced car that doesn't have some orange peel, but this was pretty bad. Maybe the Ron Fellows cars were early examples with teething issues, but this really has to improve for any long-term legitimacy of the C7 being a world-class car in other areas besides just performance.
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A buddy of mine has a "Porsche friend" who saw the C7 at a Supercar Sunday get together here in SoCal. He remarked that the C7 had horrible orange peel. This is coming from someone not even clued into the problems.
It's embarrassment that cars have gone out like this. I'm pulling for GM to pull it together.
Michael
It's embarrassment that cars have gone out like this. I'm pulling for GM to pull it together.
Michael
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Hopefully GM is getting the message that there are QC issues and will address them sooner than later. It's going to get harder to change the impression the longer these issues keep being raised. GM has made great strides in quality on other cars, so this should be non issue by now.
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A couple more. The cell phone couldn't really capture a clear shot of the orange peel, but it's even worse than shown in the photo. There isn't any mass produced car that doesn't have some orange peel, but this was pretty bad. Maybe the Ron Fellows cars were early examples with teething issues, but this really has to improve for any long-term legitimacy of the C7 being a world-class car in other areas besides just performance.
#7
robots need to be fine tuned to the new angles and obviously this takes time(as in painting hundreds of units). Were the early C-5,6's the same way?
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My Laguna Blue C7:
1) Has no chip issue anywhere including just below the third break light. Or any other noticeable defects for that matter.
2) There is very minimal orange peel anywhere, on both horizontal and vertical surfaces. I've looked at many (50+) C7s and observed that the TR, and Black have the most Orange Peel. VY and AW, not as noticeable. And minimal with the CR, NRB, CG, BS, LB, AND LRG.
3) That misalignment? is on both sides and measures on my C7 to be <1/16". It is a compromise fitment of the rear facia IMO so that it aligns better with the closed hatch and rear quarter fenders along the top edge. I am not concerned.
1) Has no chip issue anywhere including just below the third break light. Or any other noticeable defects for that matter.
2) There is very minimal orange peel anywhere, on both horizontal and vertical surfaces. I've looked at many (50+) C7s and observed that the TR, and Black have the most Orange Peel. VY and AW, not as noticeable. And minimal with the CR, NRB, CG, BS, LB, AND LRG.
3) That misalignment? is on both sides and measures on my C7 to be <1/16". It is a compromise fitment of the rear facia IMO so that it aligns better with the closed hatch and rear quarter fenders along the top edge. I am not concerned.
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My Laguna Blue C7:
1) Has no chip issue anywhere including just below the third break light. Or any other noticeable defects for that matter.
2) There is very minimal orange peel anywhere, on both horizontal and vertical surfaces. I've looked at many (50+) C7s and observed that the TR, and Black have the most Orange Peel. VY and AW, not as noticeable. And minimal with the CR, NRB, CG, BS, LB, AND LRG.
3) That misalignment? is on both sides and measures on my C7 to be <1/16". It is a compromise fitment of the rear facia IMO so that it aligns better with the closed hatch and rear quarter fenders along the top edge. I am not concerned.
1) Has no chip issue anywhere including just below the third break light. Or any other noticeable defects for that matter.
2) There is very minimal orange peel anywhere, on both horizontal and vertical surfaces. I've looked at many (50+) C7s and observed that the TR, and Black have the most Orange Peel. VY and AW, not as noticeable. And minimal with the CR, NRB, CG, BS, LB, AND LRG.
3) That misalignment? is on both sides and measures on my C7 to be <1/16". It is a compromise fitment of the rear facia IMO so that it aligns better with the closed hatch and rear quarter fenders along the top edge. I am not concerned.
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Same with a CG customer car I saw at Reliable in Springfield Mo this weekend. Saw no paint runs on the sides but the orange peel was heavy and everywhere.
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I'm pretty sure these are the cars that were abused for their dealer sessions in Pahrump a month ago.
To me it looks like the same exact same cars at the Mandalay bay for the car auction. The blue one and the red one were on display. I didn't see the Crystal red though.
I think you have to evaluate real cars on the lot and not these as you really don't know where they came from and what's happened to them. To save money, I'm sure a lot of trial cars are recycled and it makes a lot of sense to use the cars in Pahrump for Sema as it's easy and cheap.
To me it looks like the same exact same cars at the Mandalay bay for the car auction. The blue one and the red one were on display. I didn't see the Crystal red though.
I think you have to evaluate real cars on the lot and not these as you really don't know where they came from and what's happened to them. To save money, I'm sure a lot of trial cars are recycled and it makes a lot of sense to use the cars in Pahrump for Sema as it's easy and cheap.
Last edited by Sin City; 11-04-2013 at 11:22 AM.
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My Laguna Blue C7:
1) Has no chip issue anywhere including just below the third break light. Or any other noticeable defects for that matter.
2) There is very minimal orange peel anywhere, on both horizontal and vertical surfaces. I've looked at many (50+) C7s and observed that the TR, and Black have the most Orange Peel. VY and AW, not as noticeable. And minimal with the CR, NRB, CG, BS, LB, AND LRG.
3) That misalignment? is on both sides and measures on my C7 to be <1/16". It is a compromise fitment of the rear facia IMO so that it aligns better with the closed hatch and rear quarter fenders along the top edge. I am not concerned.
1) Has no chip issue anywhere including just below the third break light. Or any other noticeable defects for that matter.
2) There is very minimal orange peel anywhere, on both horizontal and vertical surfaces. I've looked at many (50+) C7s and observed that the TR, and Black have the most Orange Peel. VY and AW, not as noticeable. And minimal with the CR, NRB, CG, BS, LB, AND LRG.
3) That misalignment? is on both sides and measures on my C7 to be <1/16". It is a compromise fitment of the rear facia IMO so that it aligns better with the closed hatch and rear quarter fenders along the top edge. I am not concerned.
My bumpers and fenders line up very well with maybe a 1/16 difference at on drivers side junction.
I must be petty lucky as. Have not had any problem other than my hatch won't close without one of the doors being open.
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Checked out a friend's Laguna Blue this weekend. Definitely a good amount of orange peel. He pointed out some of it himself.
I have orange peel on my C6's, esp right around the license plate alcove on the rear bumper cover, but his seemed to have more.
It may decrease as the plant refines the painting process.
I have orange peel on my C6's, esp right around the license plate alcove on the rear bumper cover, but his seemed to have more.
It may decrease as the plant refines the painting process.
#17
GM will never fix the problem as long as everyone is excepting the car like that and not complaining!!..IMO there's no excuse for this as you can go on a Hyundai lot and look at a $20,000 Sonata with little or no orange peel.
The ZR1's had a lot of vibration issues that came from faulty carbon ceramic rotors enough complained about it and now GM is fixing that issue.
The ZR1's had a lot of vibration issues that came from faulty carbon ceramic rotors enough complained about it and now GM is fixing that issue.
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GM will never fix the problem as long as everyone is excepting the car like that and not complaining!!..IMO there's no excuse for this as you can go on a Hyundai lot and look at a $20,000 Sonata with little or no orange peel.
The ZR1's had a lot of vibration issues that came from faulty carbon ceramic rotors enough complained about it and now GM is fixing that issue.
The ZR1's had a lot of vibration issues that came from faulty carbon ceramic rotors enough complained about it and now GM is fixing that issue.
#19
My M3 and C63 had orange peel (although the C63 was better)... it isn't just a GM issue it is an industry issue. BMW's are notorious for this.
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What do you suppose GM do, repaint a few thousand cars for orange peel? Yes, my C7 VY has orange peel and way more then the VY C6 I had. The only way I know to get rid of it, is wet sanding it and paying out of my own pocket. My C6 had orange peel and the dealer I bought it new from said that's the way it is, except it.
See it's that exact attitude EXCEPT IT!! that it will never get better..YES they GM should fix the bad ones but it's the cars to come that they can fix in the factory if GM is bombarded with complaints about the paint issues.
I had very little OP on my Z06 and even less on my ZR1 and what's there IS exceptable but not what I'm seeing on here on this site no way!!..just don't understand this except it deal at all.