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Old 11-02-2013, 12:04 AM
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Looking for a great deal. If it doesn't happen I'm ok too. I want and not need to take possession over the next 2 months
Old 11-02-2013, 07:17 AM
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I know a few car salesmen and they all say the same thing about the cash deal. It works great for a leftover vehicle, but not for a new model year vehicle. The dealers get a kick back when they finance vehicles. It's true you can still finance a leftover, but the dealer wants them off the lots to make it look they sold like hot cakes and they will break even to get it gone. I got my 2012 Edge this way, sticker price was a tad over 38K. I walked OTD paying 30K for tax title and everything else under the sun. It was a cash deal and they couldn't make it happen on a 2013 model.
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Originally Posted by Brock 70
I know a few car salesmen and they all say the same thing about the cash deal. It works great for a leftover vehicle, but not for a new model year vehicle. The dealers get a kick back when they finance vehicles. It's true you can still finance a leftover, but the dealer wants them off the lots to make it look they sold like hot cakes and they will break even to get it gone. I got my 2012 Edge this way, sticker price was a tad over 38K. I walked OTD paying 30K for tax title and everything else under the sun. It was a cash deal and they couldn't make it happen on a 2013 model.
Yes, the illustration here is that it is not "cash" that makes the deal, timing. On a car collecting dust on the lot, the dealer accrues costs in having the car, insurance, washing, tire and battery associated from sitting for long periods, and of course space. So, it's a matter of "if I will, will you". Cash has nothing to do with it. And dealers don't seem to be having a problem with moving the C7 as of yet.

However, when the Z51 constraint gets lifted and/or the carbon roofs, there may be quite a few dealer stock non Z51's that they begin to negotiate the price, if you "buy it now".
Old 11-02-2013, 11:17 AM
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Cash works better with bad credit as the deal gets done....lol
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Originally Posted by talon90
Smaller volume Dealers are adding market adjustments to this car from $5,000.00 to $10,000.00 OVER MSRP and selling them. What do you think they would say to an offer that is $5,000.00 under?
Small dealer(town of 7,500 in a very rural part of Missouri) near me with allocations for 2 coupes and 1 convertible(can't get any lower) for the first 6-9 months of C7 production, sold his first coupe for MSRP(not $5,000 to $10,000 over MSRP), day before yesterday, to a lady In Rolla, MO.

Larger dealer(town of 150,000) near me sold his entire allocations for $1,000 UNDER MSRP starting back in January.

Relatively small dealer( town of 2,100) in Kellogg, ID is selling his C7's for $3,000 UNDER MSRP.
Old 11-02-2013, 11:29 AM
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One other possibility...

There are literally hundreds of pre-production C7s that may be sold as demonstrators. After the Dealer C7 Launch Academies and car shows are over early next year GM may recondition these cars and send them to dealers to sell as "new" demos. Alternately they may sell them as-is at auction or crush them depending on condition.

If these cars make it to dealers as reconditioned "new" meaning the full factory warranty plus an extension to cover the demo miles used up, they will likely be sold at a $5000 or more discount from the going price of a brand new one at the time.
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Originally Posted by adamsocb
One other possibility...

There are literally hundreds of pre-production C7s that may be sold as demonstrators. After the Dealer C7 Launch Academies and car shows are over early next year GM may recondition these cars and send them to dealers to sell as "new" demos. Alternately they may sell them as-is at auction or crush them depending on condition.

If these cars make it to dealers as reconditioned "new" meaning the full factory warranty plus an extension to cover the demo miles used up, they will likely be sold at a $5000 or more discount from the going price of a brand new one at the time.
This is interesting. I'll check into this
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Originally Posted by BIg Wash AZ
Every deal is a cash deal. Truth,a dealer makes a ton of money on financing. They rather write the paper.
The dealer doesn't care
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Originally Posted by 123sugey
This is interesting. I'll check into this
I know that my local dealer is planning picking up some of the captured test cars as soon as GM puts them up for auction.
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Originally Posted by JoesC5
I know that my local dealer is planning picking up some of the captured test cars as soon as GM puts them up for auction.
Wes ?
Old 11-02-2013, 02:05 PM
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Originally Posted by 123sugey
Is there a dealer that would take a cash offer of let's say $47k for a NRB C7 1lt with auto ?
Probably not..... Seems waaaaaaaaaaayyyyy to cheap...

Several non Z51 cars this past week sold wholesale for around $70K to $71K+ at auction.
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Originally Posted by jr3
Probably not..... Seems waaaaaaaaaaayyyyy to cheap...

Several non Z51 cars this past week sold wholesale for around $70K to $71K+ at auction.
Seems stupid to me why anyone would pay $70k to $71K+ at an auction when you can buy them from a dealer cheaper than that. A small dealer near me sold his non Z51 for MSRP, that was below $70K to 71K+ a couple of days ago.

Some dealers are selling for as much as $3,000 off MSRP and advertising it.

A few forum members have said they got as much as $5-$6K off MSRP, but that is not the norm(at least for another couple of months).
Old 11-02-2013, 02:40 PM
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Originally Posted by JoesC5
Seems stupid to me why anyone would pay $70k to $71K+ at an auction when you can buy them from a dealer cheaper than that. A small dealer near me sold his non Z51 for MSRP, that was below $70K to 71K+ a couple of days ago.

Some dealers are selling for as much as $3,000 off MSRP and advertising it.

A few forum members have said they got as much as $5-$6K off MSRP, but that is not the norm(at least for another couple of months).
I just don't understand these discount threads. Why would any dealer discount a C7 when the easiest thing in the world to do is to sell one at MSRP? If you want a discount you have to be patient; if you need one now you'll have to pay MSRP.
As far as discounts are concerned, I have never seen a dealer discount any more agressively than Kerbeck, and I don't see them currently offering discounts on any C7s.
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Originally Posted by jr3
Probably not..... Seems waaaaaaaaaaayyyyy to cheap...

Several non Z51 cars this past week sold wholesale for around $70K to $71K+ at auction.
Sure.
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To the OP..... none of us can help you. I suggest you sit down do a search based on distance from you and start making calls.

I'll bet in 2 hours you can have a pretty good idea of what is out there. I assume you're not willing to pay shipping so you need someone near you or be willing to pick it up and drive it home.

Good luck
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Originally Posted by sly1
I just don't understand these discount threads. Why would any dealer discount a C7 when the easiest thing in the world to do is to sell one at MSRP? If you want a discount you have to be patient; if you need one now you'll have to pay MSRP.
As far as discounts are concerned, I have never seen a dealer discount any more agressively than Kerbeck, and I don't see them currently offering discounts on any C7s.
Walmart didn't become the world's largest grocery store by selling corn for the same price as the grocery store across the street. They sold it cheaper, thus took the customers away from the store across the street.

There are not 10 people waiting in line for each C7 being made, as you seem to believe.

PS- Kerbeck is not the most aggressive dealer with their pricing. TODAY, there are dealers selling C7's for below MSRP. Is Kerbeck?
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Originally Posted by sly1
I just don't understand these discount threads. Why would any dealer discount a C7 when the easiest thing in the world to do is to sell one at MSRP? If you want a discount you have to be patient; if you need one now you'll have to pay MSRP.
As far as discounts are concerned, I have never seen a dealer discount any more agressively than Kerbeck, and I don't see them currently offering discounts on any C7s.
Why are some of you in denial ? Good golly. It is the dealers choice. If a dealer wants to discount off list it's their choice.

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Originally Posted by JoesC5
Walmart didn't become the world's largest grocery store by selling corn for the same price as the grocery store across the street. They sold it cheaper, thus took the customers away from the store across the street.

There are not 10 people waiting in line for each C7 being made, as you seem to believe.

PS- Kerbeck is not the most aggressive dealer with their pricing. TODAY, there are dealers selling C7's for below MSRP. Is Kerbeck?
Joe, between you, me and, the wall, I'd wager that Wes and a number of other dealers have done some serious discounting already. It's simply that those getting the good discounts aren't running their mouths on the forum.
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Originally Posted by lt4obsesses
Yes, the illustration here is that it is not "cash" that makes the deal, timing. On a car collecting dust on the lot, the dealer accrues costs in having the car, insurance, washing, tire and battery associated from sitting for long periods, and of course space. So, it's a matter of "if I will, will you". Cash has nothing to do with it. And dealers don't seem to be having a problem with moving the C7 as of yet.

However, when the Z51 constraint gets lifted and/or the carbon roofs, there may be quite a few dealer stock non Z51's that they begin to negotiate the price, if you "buy it now".
This is were you are wrong. I should have posted the dates as well for a better understanding. I bought my Edge in early March of 2012, they had tons of 12's on the lot as it was only March. They did however start to receive their 13's as well, which I thought was kind of odd, but every model Ford makes was avaliable in a 2013 model by March of 2012. They might have only had one of a certain model as well. As for my Edge collecting dust it was only produced in Feburary 2012 one week before the first 2013 rolled off the line and actually arrived with a mix shipment of 13's. So I stand by my first statement.
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Originally Posted by Brock 70
This is were you are wrong. I should have posted the dates as well for a better understanding. I bought my Edge in early March of 2012, they had tons of 12's on the lot as it was only March. They did however start to receive their 13's as well, which I thought was kind of odd, but every model Ford makes was avaliable in a 2013 model by March of 2012. They might have only had one of a certain model as well. As for my Edge collecting dust it was only produced in Feburary 2012 one week before the first 2013 rolled off the line and actually arrived with a mix shipment of 13's. So I stand by my first statement.
Actually I was in total agreement with you. You're 2012, was old news with the 2013's being readily available. They needed the space. So they were willing to deal on the 2012. I don't think it being a cash purchase had much, if anything, to do with the discount. Same thing Chevy's doing with the remaining 2013's. I saw a 427 Vert at a local dealer, MSRP of $88K, marked down to $66K.


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