C7 just as quick to the new Viper at the strip
10-27-2013, 12:57 AM
#21
Last edited by Viper_Vette; 10-27-2013 at 01:00 AM.
10-27-2013, 01:25 AM
#22
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10-27-2013, 02:02 AM
#23
I would be pissed as hell if I owned one of these Vipers and the thing went into reduced power mode after 1 run at the dragstrip or on a dyno. Whereas the cheaper, far less powerful C7 is able to consistently lay down awesome times not far behind the Viper because the car is able to effectively utilize the power that it has. Shows that GM did their homework in this regard.
That Viper is a gorgeous looking car, really puts the C7 to shame in looks but in every other way the C7 is superior. It will get really ugly for the Viper when the Z06 or whatever it's called arrives.
That Viper is a gorgeous looking car, really puts the C7 to shame in looks but in every other way the C7 is superior. It will get really ugly for the Viper when the Z06 or whatever it's called arrives.
Last edited by Goaty; 10-27-2013 at 02:05 AM.
10-27-2013, 08:31 AM
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10-27-2013, 11:56 AM
#25
Race Director
The consistent times were done with an automatic. Anyone's grandmother can get consistent times with an automatic. Who knows if the tune edited the shifting of the automatic as well. Lot's of variables that leave the performance questionable as far as how the car came bone stock.
-Alex
10-27-2013, 12:25 PM
#26
You missed the part about the custom tune sir. GM did their homework on the factory tune, NOT the custom tune.
The consistent times were done with an automatic. Anyone's grandmother can get consistent times with an automatic. Who knows if the tune edited the shifting of the automatic as well. Lot's of variables that leave the performance questionable as far as how the car came bone stock.
-Alex
10-27-2013, 12:34 PM
#27
Scraping the splitter.
I sympathize with the Viper owners who laid out there money for a car that is sort of turning out to be a big bucket of fail. Hopefully SRT will step up and offer some programming changes to eliminate some of the features that are hobbling the car.
Because 11.4 at 124 mph on drag radials in ~650' DA is freaking laughable for a 640 hp 3300# car.
S.
Because 11.4 at 124 mph on drag radials in ~650' DA is freaking laughable for a 640 hp 3300# car.
S.
10-27-2013, 12:53 PM
#29
Race Director
Because of this...
"From what I was told." I take that at face value. He saw one run an 11:47. He heard someone say the other car went 11.8. That's just me.
Don't get me wrong, I love C7's but I am just not convinced about the times based on this information provided
-Alex
Don't get me wrong, I love C7's but I am just not convinced about the times based on this information provided
-Alex
10-27-2013, 12:56 PM
#30
Scraping the splitter.
10-27-2013, 12:59 PM
#31
Because of this...
"From what I was told." I take that at face value. He saw one run an 11:47. He heard someone say the other car went 11.8. That's just me.
Don't get me wrong, I love C7's but I am just not convinced about the times based on this information provided
-Alex
10-27-2013, 01:17 PM
#32
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Anyone who thinks the viper is not a high 10 sec car at 128-130mph needs help.
The new viper is dealing with a similar issue seen with the manual c7's at the track: The manufacture is covering their butts using computer nannies.
Nothing new really. Just don't think you'll beat a new viper in a base c7 if you happen to run into one on the street. Mph at the track is a clear indicator of how cars run on the street and nowhere will you see a stock c7 match the vipers 128mph. That's what the z06/zr1 is for.
The new viper is dealing with a similar issue seen with the manual c7's at the track: The manufacture is covering their butts using computer nannies.
Nothing new really. Just don't think you'll beat a new viper in a base c7 if you happen to run into one on the street. Mph at the track is a clear indicator of how cars run on the street and nowhere will you see a stock c7 match the vipers 128mph. That's what the z06/zr1 is for.
10-27-2013, 01:42 PM
#33
Race Director
.Anyone who thinks the viper is not a high 10 sec car at 128-130mph needs help.
The new viper is dealing with a similar issue seen with the manual c7's at the track: The manufacture is covering their butts using computer nannies.
Nothing new really. Just don't think you'll beat a new viper in a base c7 if you happen to run into one on the street. Mph at the track is a clear indicator of how cars run on the street and nowhere will you see a stock c7 match the vipers 128mph. That's what the z06/zr1 is for.
The new viper is dealing with a similar issue seen with the manual c7's at the track: The manufacture is covering their butts using computer nannies.
Nothing new really. Just don't think you'll beat a new viper in a base c7 if you happen to run into one on the street. Mph at the track is a clear indicator of how cars run on the street and nowhere will you see a stock c7 match the vipers 128mph. That's what the z06/zr1 is for.
-Alex
10-27-2013, 05:28 PM
#36
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look here.........http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FRv1GBwTtRQ
Which one is faster??
An et is great and all but the mph is key.
10-27-2013, 06:11 PM
#37
That means that Dodge got it wrong so far.
A stock BASE Vette getting into the 11s... means GM got it right.
The Viper engineers will most likely fix this with a software upgrade...but as it stands today....it can't even get out of its own way. (That was a joke...so don't get all defensive)
10-27-2013, 06:39 PM
#40
I don't think anyone believes a stock Vette really is quicker than a stock Viper. The post, written by a Viper owner mind you, complains that as it is...the new Viper is a failure (due to computer or whatever) for not even getting the same times as the older Viper.
That means that Dodge got it wrong so far.
A stock BASE Vette getting into the 11s... means GM got it right.
The Viper engineers will most likely fix this with a software upgrade...but as it stands today....it can't even get out of its own way. (That was a joke...so don't get all defensive)
That means that Dodge got it wrong so far.
A stock BASE Vette getting into the 11s... means GM got it right.
The Viper engineers will most likely fix this with a software upgrade...but as it stands today....it can't even get out of its own way. (That was a joke...so don't get all defensive)