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Old 10-23-2013, 01:28 PM
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Anyone have info on the status of the 300-plus captured test fleet vehicles? Will GM offer them as used cars through dealer networks?
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I believe they will be destroyed and not available for sale.
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A GM rep. says they will be used as test vehicles or destroyed.
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I was told they will be run through GM's dealer's auction and will be available through the dealer's.

GM has done this before, so not new news.

1.Company Vehicle — A unit used by GM or its subsidiaries for business, test, or demonstration purposes. This includes Damaged-in-Transit which are new vehicles that are damaged during transportation, repurchased by GM, repaired, and sold through GM Sponsored Auctions.
2.Customer Dissatisfaction Buyback Vehicle - (RVDC) — A unit repurchased by GM or its subsidiaries as a result of a dissatisfied customer.
3.GM Employee Owned Vehicle — A unit personally owned by a GM employee.
4.Repo — A unit repossessed by the finance company generally for reasons of non-payment of a retail contract obligation.
5.Ally SmartBuy — A unit returned under the terms of a retail balloon note finance contract.
6.Off-Lease Vehicle — A unit previously leased to a Company or Individual.
7.Rental Vehicle — A unit sold or leased to a rental Company and repurchased by or returned to GM or its subsidiaries under a defined program.
8.Special Vehicle — As designated by GM Remarketing.

http://www.gmonlineauctions.com/Auct...es&Procedures/

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they will all be crushed, have to be, no vins
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Originally Posted by FEAR
they will all be crushed, have to be, no vins
They have VIN's
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Originally Posted by JoesC5
They have VIN's


Both of the CTF vehicles I've had the opportunity to experience had VINs. My understanding that before going to auction, CTF vehicles are usually updated with the production changes to reflect the latest production level.
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GM is just going to destroy 20 million dollars worth of vehicles?
I doubt it very highly. Also, one of the cars a GM Design engineer
is driving has Vin# ending in 41 that I saw at Autobahn a while back. They all have vins
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Originally Posted by jwbert
GM is just going to destroy 20 million dollars worth of vehicles?
I doubt it very highly. Also, one of the cars a GM Design engineer
is driving has Vin# ending in 41 that I saw at Autobahn a while back. They all have vins
I believe that if you check the 12th digit it will be a different number than the retail cars now being built. You will see multiple cars with the same last digits, say 041, but they will not have the same full VIN.

The Premier cars also will have duplicate last numbers in the VIN but will have a different 12th digit.
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acrace has the right of it. Not all will be sold only the ones that can be economically refurbished and those that can not will be destroyed.

All dealers have an opportunity to bid on these which will be sold as used. Kerbeck's seems to get the lions share so if your regular dealer does not participate in the process one can always contact Kerbeck's. The VIN is not changed so there is way to look at the VIN to determine if the vehicle is a CTF.

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I've said it many times....they should sell those cars as $1.00 purchases to aftermarket companies with contractual agreements to build parts and show the car...Ford has done that with the Mustang and look at its aftermarket.

Give it companies like Rocket Bunny, Rauh-Welt, Pratt & Miller, Greddy/Trust, etc....funnel them to companies that typically mod Japanese cars and German cars....bring that younger crowd in.
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Originally Posted by FEAR
they will all be crushed, have to be, no vins
Where do you dream this stuff up? They have no VINS?

The very first C7 test mules have VINS the last two digits are EX those cars can't be sold.

The 300 fleet cars are saleable units will will go to the GM dealers auction.
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I haven't heard anything for certain yet, but I'm guessing they will sell them. Back in December of 2004 we got our hands on 7 of the 2005 CTF cars, but the 2005 was a good month and a half ahead of what the 2014s are so maybe after the first of the year we'll see something.

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Originally Posted by Dave@Kerbeck.com
I haven't heard anything for certain yet, but I'm guessing they will sell them. Back in December of 2004 we got our hands on 7 of the 2005 CTF cars, but the 2005 was a good month and a half ahead of what the 2014s are so maybe after the first of the year we'll see something.

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What were the specifics of their warranty coverage? 3/36 from when sold by dealerships to first retail customer? What, in general, was their price in relation to new?
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Originally Posted by rcallen484
What were the specifics of their warranty coverage? 3/36 from when sold by dealerships to first retail customer? What, in general, was their price in relation to new?
I realize that you were not asking me but this is what GM says to the dealers..."All vehicles are sold "AS IS"; except for any unexpired warranty coverage under a GM new car limited warranty. All warranty claims are to be handled in the normal manner through the nameplate vehicle division."

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Some will be saleable and be run through the auction some will go to the crusher.
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Originally Posted by Red Lightening
Some will be saleable and be run through the auction some will go to the crusher.
And GM will strive to make as many cars saleable and minimize the number of cars that are not salable.

They will not crush $45,000 times "X" if they can prevent it.

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Originally Posted by jwbert
GM is just going to destroy 20 million dollars worth of vehicles?
I doubt it very highly. Also, one of the cars a GM Design engineer
is driving has Vin# ending in 41 that I saw at Autobahn a while back. They all have vins

i know it’s been over 6 years but are you talking about Kirk bennions c7? Night race blue with a brownstone interior? I own that car now. I was told it was Kirk’s. Vin# ends in 041 also.
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Originally Posted by JoesC5
I was told they will be run through GM's dealer's auction and will be available through the dealer's.

GM has done this before, so not new news.

1.Company Vehicle — A unit used by GM or its subsidiaries for business, test, or demonstration purposes. This includes Damaged-in-Transit which are new vehicles that are damaged during transportation, repurchased by GM, repaired, and sold through GM Sponsored Auctions.
2.Customer Dissatisfaction Buyback Vehicle - (RVDC) — A unit repurchased by GM or its subsidiaries as a result of a dissatisfied customer.
3.GM Employee Owned Vehicle — A unit personally owned by a GM employee.
4.Repo — A unit repossessed by the finance company generally for reasons of non-payment of a retail contract obligation.
5.Ally SmartBuy — A unit returned under the terms of a retail balloon note finance contract.
6.Off-Lease Vehicle — A unit previously leased to a Company or Individual.
7.Rental Vehicle — A unit sold or leased to a rental Company and repurchased by or returned to GM or its subsidiaries under a defined program.
8.Special Vehicle — As designated by GM Remarketing.

http://www.gmonlineauctions.com/Auct...es&Procedures/

Are you guys referring to the C8's,The vins have Ex which is experimental, the door tags say non saleable



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