Porsche owner has test drive
10-18-2013, 11:50 AM
#41
Le Mans Master
Anyone that is a Porsche driver and is going to test drive a C7 to see how it feels compared to a Porsche, will walk away unhappy, if they believe the two will feel the same. It just will not happen. The Corvette is a big horsepower big torque front engine rear wheel drive, while the Porsche, is less power in both hp and torques, it has the engine low and hanging off the rear so there is no way in h#ll they will feel the same.
Now if you are looking for overall performance and like to hang the rear out in corners and feel the torque suck you into the seat, then C7 will be the car for that. What it will come down to is what you really want in a car, the two are both sports cars and will handle exception well in the twisty parts of the road and they will both cruise well Then again they are totally different cars as i pointed out above. I for one (and of course I am bias) would pick the C7. But then again a lot of that is based on the cost of the two cars and I thing for the few short comings that there maybe in the C0rvette over the Porsche, i can live with them.
Now if you are looking for overall performance and like to hang the rear out in corners and feel the torque suck you into the seat, then C7 will be the car for that. What it will come down to is what you really want in a car, the two are both sports cars and will handle exception well in the twisty parts of the road and they will both cruise well Then again they are totally different cars as i pointed out above. I for one (and of course I am bias) would pick the C7. But then again a lot of that is based on the cost of the two cars and I thing for the few short comings that there maybe in the C0rvette over the Porsche, i can live with them.
10-18-2013, 11:56 AM
#42
Race Director
The test will be time. When gm's (not just vettes) roll off the line been fairly good
on some fits. This C7 seems to be proving that wrong for some reason.
But found on many past gm's after rack up mileage and good ole everyday driving
things seem to loosen up and not in a good way. Whereas imports (german) stayed
solid. I've had 4 BMW's and felt solid from day one. Since americans like their
gadgets, us cars have been loaded with them which cause problems. Import were
focused on quality and driving. Now that they have to get into the gadget game,
they are finding similar problems too. Still seems like pulling teeth to get imports
equal, take HUD, vettes like a video game, german will give you the speed and
couple others LOL LOL LOL
on some fits. This C7 seems to be proving that wrong for some reason.
But found on many past gm's after rack up mileage and good ole everyday driving
things seem to loosen up and not in a good way. Whereas imports (german) stayed
solid. I've had 4 BMW's and felt solid from day one. Since americans like their
gadgets, us cars have been loaded with them which cause problems. Import were
focused on quality and driving. Now that they have to get into the gadget game,
they are finding similar problems too. Still seems like pulling teeth to get imports
equal, take HUD, vettes like a video game, german will give you the speed and
couple others LOL LOL LOL
10-18-2013, 11:58 AM
#43
Team Owner
Not sure why I should care what you think of the C7. How you feel does nothing to change my life in any way, shape, manner or form. 
10-18-2013, 12:16 PM
#44
The C7 isn't going to have the quality of the 981. If fit and finish are important then the battle ends there.
But everything else.....jesus.....not even close. The C7 stomps on the 981 in any performance category you want....plus it's a lot more manly.
I'm surprised you'd even be comparing these two really. Seems like very different demographics.
But everything else.....jesus.....not even close. The C7 stomps on the 981 in any performance category you want....plus it's a lot more manly.
I'm surprised you'd even be comparing these two really. Seems like very different demographics.
10-18-2013, 12:27 PM
#45
My biggest issue with #2 is the overall experience.
1.) When I used to bring my C6 in for service there was someone new working the service counter all of the time. If there was a repeat issue (in my case there was) I always had to re-explain everything that has been done. In my previous experiences (Audi, BMW, etc) I always had 1 service adviser that I worked with regularly and I had a good relationship with. Also, it was a nice sit down environment vs a stand up unorganized environment at the GM dealer.
2.) Second lets talk about loaner cars. I never received a loaner car with my C6. When I had my C6 and it had a late fix (Car was ready at 5:30) they didnt have anyone to pick me I was forced to call a taxi to go get my car. In the (Porsche, Audi, BMW) world there would be no way that I would not have an equivalent car to drive. I have always had loaners and even had a service adviser stay an hour after the dealer closed to ensure I got my car.
In my experiences (I have owned alot of cars) there is no way any GM dealer has a leg up on its competitions service experiences. I recent choose a new Audi over a Caddy for that exact reason.
1.) When I used to bring my C6 in for service there was someone new working the service counter all of the time. If there was a repeat issue (in my case there was) I always had to re-explain everything that has been done. In my previous experiences (Audi, BMW, etc) I always had 1 service adviser that I worked with regularly and I had a good relationship with. Also, it was a nice sit down environment vs a stand up unorganized environment at the GM dealer.
2.) Second lets talk about loaner cars. I never received a loaner car with my C6. When I had my C6 and it had a late fix (Car was ready at 5:30) they didnt have anyone to pick me I was forced to call a taxi to go get my car. In the (Porsche, Audi, BMW) world there would be no way that I would not have an equivalent car to drive. I have always had loaners and even had a service adviser stay an hour after the dealer closed to ensure I got my car.
In my experiences (I have owned alot of cars) there is no way any GM dealer has a leg up on its competitions service experiences. I recent choose a new Audi over a Caddy for that exact reason.
This is one of the reasons you can buy a Corvette and out-perform most other cars out there for what? 70 grand or less?
What do you want? Do you think you are not paying for your concierge service with Porsche, Audi, or BMW? You most certainly are.
Chevy isn't trying to compete with those companies in that way. Most of the cars chevy sells are econo boxes or trucks. Come on now.
10-18-2013, 01:30 PM
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10-18-2013, 02:29 PM
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Totally agree --- and
You're talking about Chevy vs. a luxury brand.
This is one of the reasons you can buy a Corvette and out-perform most other cars out there for what? 70 grand or less?
What do you want? Do you think you are not paying for your concierge service with Porsche, Audi, or BMW? You most certainly are.
Chevy isn't trying to compete with those companies in that way. Most of the cars chevy sells are econo boxes or trucks. Come on now.
This is one of the reasons you can buy a Corvette and out-perform most other cars out there for what? 70 grand or less?
What do you want? Do you think you are not paying for your concierge service with Porsche, Audi, or BMW? You most certainly are.
Chevy isn't trying to compete with those companies in that way. Most of the cars chevy sells are econo boxes or trucks. Come on now.
Corvette has proven itself on the race track and after driving my sons brand new C7 I can tell you that it is awesome.
You will not get the same buying experience as a high end dealer though our dealer here in Arizona is very good.
The car is far and above my sons C6 Z06. I am not talking performance. Its fit and finish, the looks, tightness. It just feels like a better car.
The C6 is an awesome heritage to come from, with it's performance and racing accomplishments. In order to capture more sports car enthusiasts it had to be much, much more refined and the C7 is all of that.
The handling is what struck me more than straight line performance. I drive a Chevy Camaro 1LE which if anyone knows is quite the handler itself for a Camaro. This C7 is far superior to that.
Great job Chevy.
Now don't blow it on fixing all the little things that come up and they will. Jump on them with both feet. Don't ruin the C7's rep before it gets started.
Jim
10-18-2013, 03:00 PM
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^ Well, there it is. An excellent summary of buyers level of appreciation of the 'subtle nuances between brands & models available.
Carefully considered test drives - no way. Cost of ownership compros - for the lame. Design styles - who gives a crap. Warranty & Service costs - worry about that later. I'm buying my sports car based upon Croissants, Cappuccinos & Calendars . . . . . omg
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10-18-2013, 04:30 PM
#49
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HotHonda Oil service at my Porsche dealer is not $300.00. Also, if you read the 2014 Boxster manual, unless you drive in severe conditions, you are allowed up to 2 years between oil changes.
I don't drive in severe conditions and I don't race so I plan to go the distance but keep an eye on it. I may drive 3 or 4 thousand miles a year. Maybe 5,000.
My Chevrolet dealer sent me a letter when I bought my new 2009 C6 telling me that it was time for the 1,000 mile check up. I had 600 miles on the car. Thay wanted $189.00 to change the oil and check all fluid levels, belts and hoses. He said there could be some metal filings in that engine. I said this sounds like a new car get ready that GM paid you to do 600 miles ago.
The car business never changes folks. People still buy tire and wheel insurance, extended warranties, paint protection and interior protection.
I find that this happens more often at the Chevrolet and Ford dealers.
I don't drive in severe conditions and I don't race so I plan to go the distance but keep an eye on it. I may drive 3 or 4 thousand miles a year. Maybe 5,000.
My Chevrolet dealer sent me a letter when I bought my new 2009 C6 telling me that it was time for the 1,000 mile check up. I had 600 miles on the car. Thay wanted $189.00 to change the oil and check all fluid levels, belts and hoses. He said there could be some metal filings in that engine. I said this sounds like a new car get ready that GM paid you to do 600 miles ago.
The car business never changes folks. People still buy tire and wheel insurance, extended warranties, paint protection and interior protection.
I find that this happens more often at the Chevrolet and Ford dealers.
10-18-2013, 04:43 PM
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HotHonda. I am sure glad to hear that I won't be charged $300.00 for an oil change. Don't look now, but the Boxster and Cayman are great cars at a great price. Do you take your poodle along in your hot Honda?
10-18-2013, 04:46 PM
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10-18-2013, 05:04 PM
#53
Burning Brakes
I owned a Porsche (model 997 Carrera) for 6 years. It was an outstanding car, and I really enjoyed it. Now I have a C7. Very different car than the Porsche; more comfortable, a better cruiser, way better looking, and much rarer, at least at this point. I personally think you'll be happy with either car, but do recognize they are very different animals.
Choose wisely Grasshopper.
Choose wisely Grasshopper.
10-18-2013, 05:47 PM
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10-18-2013, 05:48 PM
#55
HotHonda Oil service at my Porsche dealer is not $300.00. Also, if you read the 2014 Boxster manual, unless you drive in severe conditions, you are allowed up to 2 years between oil changes.
I don't drive in severe conditions and I don't race so I plan to go the distance but keep an eye on it. I may drive 3 or 4 thousand miles a year. Maybe 5,000.
My Chevrolet dealer sent me a letter when I bought my new 2009 C6 telling me that it was time for the 1,000 mile check up. I had 600 miles on the car. Thay wanted $189.00 to change the oil and check all fluid levels, belts and hoses. He said there could be some metal filings in that engine. I said this sounds like a new car get ready that GM paid you to do 600 miles ago.
The car business never changes folks. People still buy tire and wheel insurance, extended warranties, paint protection and interior protection.
I find that this happens more often at the Chevrolet and Ford dealers.
I don't drive in severe conditions and I don't race so I plan to go the distance but keep an eye on it. I may drive 3 or 4 thousand miles a year. Maybe 5,000.
My Chevrolet dealer sent me a letter when I bought my new 2009 C6 telling me that it was time for the 1,000 mile check up. I had 600 miles on the car. Thay wanted $189.00 to change the oil and check all fluid levels, belts and hoses. He said there could be some metal filings in that engine. I said this sounds like a new car get ready that GM paid you to do 600 miles ago.
The car business never changes folks. People still buy tire and wheel insurance, extended warranties, paint protection and interior protection.
I find that this happens more often at the Chevrolet and Ford dealers.
Insurance is another factor in comparing the overall "cost of ownership"
The insurance premiums my agent quoted me on a 2014 C7 COUPE were about $300 HIGHER per year than a 2014 Boxster S.
10-18-2013, 05:51 PM
#56
Men like myself here is AZ WHERE THE SUN SHINES 300+ days a year are definitely considering the 2014 "Caymen convertible". Why miss out on 300 days of sun with that confining, fixed roof over your head?
If I happen to choose the Boxster S over the C7 Coupe will I all of a sudden lose a ******** or will my testosterone level suddenly drop or something?
If there are any scientific studies on this please post them.
If I happen to choose the Boxster S over the C7 Coupe will I all of a sudden lose a ******** or will my testosterone level suddenly drop or something?
If there are any scientific studies on this please post them.
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10-18-2013, 06:08 PM
#58
Burning Brakes
10-18-2013, 06:08 PM
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The C7 isn't going to have the quality of the 981. If fit and finish are important then the battle ends there.
But everything else.....jesus.....not even close. The C7 stomps on the 981 in any performance category you want....plus it's a lot more manly.
I'm surprised you'd even be comparing these two really. Seems like very different demographics.
But everything else.....jesus.....not even close. The C7 stomps on the 981 in any performance category you want....plus it's a lot more manly.
I'm surprised you'd even be comparing these two really. Seems like very different demographics.
Last edited by RedC7AZ; 10-18-2013 at 06:12 PM.
10-18-2013, 06:22 PM
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The C7 isn't going to have the quality of the 981. If fit and finish are important then the battle ends there.
But everything else.....jesus.....not even close. The C7 stomps on the 981 in any performance category you want....plus it's a lot more manly.
I'm surprised you'd even be comparing these two really. Seems like very different demographics.
But everything else.....jesus.....not even close. The C7 stomps on the 981 in any performance category you want....plus it's a lot more manly.
I'm surprised you'd even be comparing these two really. Seems like very different demographics.
The C7 will stomp the 981S in acceleration and top speed, but will not match it in handling through the twisties. It is simple physics and engineering. The 981 S is a light mid engine car.
The idea that a Boxster is a chick car is a show of ego and immaturity. Enough said about that.
There are plenty of Chevy dealers that give as good of service in their sales and service departments as do Porsche and BMW dealers. Silverstar Chevy in Westlake Ca. has 3 service writers, and they are as good as any writers for any brand in the country. As are their mechanics.
The idea that the sales departments at Porsche dealers do not push extras on you when you buy a car is simply absurd. Rusnak Porsche in Westlake Village will try to sell you everything including the kitchen sink.
And they charge far more than aftermarket. How about a clear bra for the front bumper for close to 1K!
You will pay close to $300.00 for an oil change at a Porsche dealer (required every 10,000 miles) A chevy dealer will charge one third of that.
Porsche dealers give free loaners and, for the most part, they are Porsches. Chevy dealers will give a free rental car if your Vette is in overnight.
I love driving the Boxster S for I drive a bunch of canyons in So Cal. It is quite quick (0-60 in 4.2) and truly a quality car. I has all of the performance options and window stickered for 84K (I paid 78K). The C7 is a better value than any Porsche. That cannot be disputed.
I will keep my Boxster S for about another 1.5-2 years and then order a C7 Z51 vert. There you have it.