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Old 03-01-2015, 09:12 AM
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Default GM Issues Warning About Use of Summer Tires In Winter

See link about info. Dealers have been getting C7s and Z28s off the trucks with ruined tires.

https://www.corvetteforum.com/forums...in-winter.html
Old 03-01-2015, 09:44 AM
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This issue has been discussed ad nauseum on this forum and others. GM has reported this problem, as have owner. They are still putting the same tires on the cars. I'd say, if you car is delivered during cold weather, have the tires checked before taking delivery.
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Great post, thanks
Old 03-01-2015, 10:39 AM
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Why is this the first I'm hearing about the issue?
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Originally Posted by Bucknut2006
Why is this the first I'm hearing about the issue?
Because you've been on a six month vacation in Hawaii and really didn't care?
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I smell lawsuit here...GM
should not be delivering vehicles in cold climates w/tires subject to failure in temps below 40 degrees...corporate greed at its finest...stay tuned...this is going to get interesting.
Old 03-01-2015, 11:26 AM
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lawsuit?

I doubt that.......they told you about it and that's all they have to do. But if this is such a big problem ask yourself why the lawyers that advise the NCM are still letting deliveries go out in cold weather, no problem?
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Originally Posted by brokaw
I smell lawsuit here...GM
should not be delivering vehicles in cold climates w/tires subject to failure in temps below 40 degrees...corporate greed at its finest...stay tuned...this is going to get interesting.
No Lawsuits..........see caution note , page 10-50 in the owners manual. However, it would have been nice to have had AS tires as an option for the vehicle when ordering
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Originally Posted by brokaw
I smell lawsuit here...GM
should not be delivering vehicles in cold climates w/tires subject to failure in temps below 40 degrees...corporate greed at its finest...stay tuned...this is going to get interesting.
And this is why we can't have nice things........ consumers that just don't get it and then want to blame/sue everyone for their own lack of education.

It's a performance car and well documented by GM that they are summer tires. Nothing is being hidden or covered up. Not even sure what basis you would have for a lawsuit as ignorance is not an excuse.
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Originally Posted by Bucknut2006
And this is why we can't have nice things........ consumers that just don't get it and then want to blame/sue everyone for their own lack of education.

It's a performance car and well documented by GM that they are summer tires. Nothing is being hidden or covered up. Not even sure what basis you would have for a lawsuit as ignorance is not an excuse.


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Originally Posted by Bucknut2006
And this is why we can't have nice things........ consumers that just don't get it and then want to blame/sue everyone for their own lack of education.

It's a performance car and well documented by GM that they are summer tires. Nothing is being hidden or covered up. Not even sure what basis you would have for a lawsuit as ignorance is not an excuse.
So how does GM protect the tires during shipping and do they instruct their dealers to ONLY store newly delivered Stingrays inside in a climate controlled environment?

Seems to me the car is compromised even before the owner drives it off the lot.

GM can't have it both ways.
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Originally Posted by AFVETTE
So how does GM protect the tires during shipping and do they instruct their dealers to ONLY store newly delivered Stingrays inside in a climate controlled environment?

Seems to me the car is compromised even before the owner drives it off the lot.

GM can't have it both ways.


The tires are compromised before they even leave the lot at BG!! And then transported via truck in the cold weather. Not to mention the horrible delays by rail. Here, a local dealer has had 3 C7s sitting outside since early December. I can only imagine what the tires are like.

I believe GM is responsible.
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Originally Posted by AFVETTE
So how does GM protect the tires during shipping and do they instruct their dealers to ONLY store newly delivered Stingrays inside in a climate controlled environment?

Seems to me the car is compromised even before the owner drives it off the lot.

GM can't have it both ways.
Sure they can (unfortunately)
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Originally Posted by AFVETTE
So how does GM protect the tires during shipping and do they instruct their dealers to ONLY store newly delivered Stingrays inside in a climate controlled environment?

Seems to me the car is compromised even before the owner drives it off the lot.

GM can't have it both ways.


If you can't drive the car at low temps without compromising the tires, then GM and the dealer can't drive it on and off rail cars and truck transporters. This is a lawsuit waiting to happen if some owner experiences a catastrophic tire failure, which might result from damage during shipping even if the owner himself never drove it in low temperatures.
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If I were a new Stingray owner awaiting delivery I'd be monitoring the weather at BG and along it's shipping route, then contact the dealer to find out what their "cold weather" procedures are.

If your car was exposed to COLD temps and you can't be sure it was properly handled I'd insist on NEW tires and point them to GM published announcements.

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In the winter (in cold regions), tires should be installed at delivery. They should just ship the car with "placeholder" tires.

I think in Europe you have to ship a car with winter or all-season tires in the winter.
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Originally Posted by AFVETTE
If I were a new Stingray owner awaiting delivery I'd be monitoring the weather at BG and along it's shipping route, then contact the dealer to find out what their "cold weather" procedures are.

If your car was exposed to COLD temps and you can't be sure it was properly handled I'd insist on NEW tires and point them to GM published announcements.

Tom
In what world do you actually believe the dealership will put on new tires for you just because the car was built when it was cold outside?

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Old 03-02-2015, 10:35 AM
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Originally Posted by AFVETTE
If I were a new Stingray owner awaiting delivery I'd be monitoring the weather at BG and along it's shipping route, then contact the dealer to find out what their "cold weather" procedures are.

If your car was exposed to COLD temps and you can't be sure it was properly handled I'd insist on NEW tires and point them to GM published announcements.
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In what world do you actually believe the dealership will put on new tires for you just because the car was built when it was cold outside?
Per GM's bulletin (with photos), look for cracks on the tread. Mine was built during the great freeze of TPW 02/16/15 and shipped to the big freeze in Spring Hill TN. I'm still awaiting delivery. My plan is to put the car up on the lift for a good look at the treads a part of my pre-purchase inspection. Not too complicated.
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Originally Posted by BIC
Per GM's bulletin (with photos), look for cracks on the tread. Mine was built during the great freeze of TPW 02/16/15 and shipped to the big freeze in Spring Hill TN. I'm still awaiting delivery. My plan is to put the car up on the lift for a good look at the treads a part of my pre-purchase inspection. Not too complicated.
Correct, if there are cracks, the company will replace the tire(s), but if there aren't, you're not going to simply get a replacement.


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