skank

All they do is associate with these companies and apply Bauhaus design principles to every thing they brand. Nothing more than that. Simplistic cheap modernism in its detailing and execution.

skank

Notch and Guibo, I suggest the two of you study up on the Bauhaus School of design started in Germany than moved to Chicago by Walter Gropius and Marcel Breuer after the WW2. Maybe then the two of you will grasp whats going on with this so called Porsche design entity. Just a group of industrial designers hired by Porsche to assist various companies to brand the Porsche name. Very common with lots of auto manufacturers.

Trackaholic

You brought up the points advantage for price, indicaiting that the Vette had an advantage by a specific amount before the contest even began. I was merely correcting your inaccurate assessment by showing areas where the 911 scored in similar ways.

I'm not complaining about flexibility, just mentioning that a category called "top gear passing" has little meaning if one of the cars is not in top gear. I would be fine if they allowed both cars to shift (and included the vettes shift time in the results) or if they used manual mode to force the 911 into seventh as well. But I've had that pet peeve for years now in this type of test and therefore no longer give it credence. It was just part of the discussion surrounding the main point that it could be argue that it was the Vette that had better performance.

As for your last point, both cars have features not found in the other. I assume the points awarded for those are included in other categories or are deemed inconsequential enought to omit (or maybe the reader is deemed intelligent enough to weight those features on their own).

-T

Carnut12

I probably could have written my post better, I still like many C5's, I think the Z06 C5 looks Great. I have also seen those that look very old and stale. Many probably like the simple sleek lines of the C6 better than the C7. I like them both, but agree the C6 might age better. I think your Testarossa comment is perfectly said, I too loved it back then, now I think it is one of the ugliest Ferrari's ever made. With that said, the C2 IMO has only become more attractive with time, how cool would it be if the Vette followed the lead of the Camaro, Mustang, and Challenger?

Guibo

Also note that the picture I posted of the 961 was in the Porsche museum.







Very different atmosphere, in terms of both the design of the building as well as the interaction between viewers and their subjects.

Guibo

And your correction too was inaccurate. Bottom line is that the Corvette had a huge points advantage going in, to the tune of 16 points if we include cargo and seat space. Whether it was 19 doesn't really matter: that difference of 3 points still pales in comparison to 16.
Despite its slower times, the Corvette got more points for flexibility. Obviously the top-gear acceleration times aren't even factored into the scoring, so why even mention it? The added versatility of driving in full-auto mode appears to be absent as well.
But according to some here, the reader is not deemed intelligent enough. There has to be accusations that the test was somehow biased toward the Porsche. Otherwise, a 2% spread in the final score ("value") cannot be deemed palatable.

Guibo

There is nothing cheap in detailing or execution of the products that you can actually hold; have you ever? If it were cheap, companies like IWC and Franck Muller would have nothing to do with them. Bauhaus, as you say, is old...yet it is still considered modern.
Could you provide examples of other companies clamoring for GM Design's work? I seriously doubt Porsche is one of those companies, but we know that Porsche was one of the companies specifically used by GM as an interior benchmark for the C7 (Audi being the other).

Reciprocal

If the acceleration and braking between the C7 and 991S are approximately equal, and the points evaluation that factors in price to give the C7 the overall win, then it sounds like C&D is trying to say that they are slightly less than 50-50 about whether all the subjective factors that gave the 991S its points were worth the money.

Seems pretty clear though that when taken together, the Corvette's balance, handling, torque and grip far exceed the 991S on streets of willow.

skank

You and Notch clearly do not understand what is going on there at Porsche design. You are either naive or delusional or maybe even both if you think they have anything to do with these products or buildings or millwork companies. Your comments indicate your inexperience in this level of manufacturing and design. I'm sure Delugan Meissl and his talented team of architects would love to hear from you on how Porsche designed their own museum or Rem Koolhaus and his firm on the Tower in Miami. Maybe you could have Porsche design your new kitchen so that Poggenpohl can build it to their specs. You actually believe your own nonsense??? Here's Meissl's firm you could study up on. Pay close attention to their conceptual thoughts. You might begin to understand the process of architecture, high end construction and manufacturing.
http://www.dmaa.at/projekte/detail-p...he-museum.html
http://www.poggenpohl.com/en/world-o...pohl/heritage/

Guibo

Where did I say that Porsche designed their museum? I'm saying that other companies want that association with Porsche. Where's the same desire for association with GM Design? Obviously, Porsche has some say in what their own museum is going to look like, and it doesn't look like GM's museum for a reason. My point is that they have a design ethos, that carries on to the things that they design as well as the things that are associated with them and bear their name. You say there's Bauhaus there, that we know that Bauhaus design is actually quite old yet is still considered modern. Hmmm...Sound familiar? (It's called the 911.)
Have you ever picked up a Porsche Design product? Which one?

Nothing exciting...yeah right.

(Technically now a street car. )

JudgeNjury

80 posts out of 269 are made by two guys who dislike the corvette.

How weird is it that so much time would be spent on a c7 corvette forum if you actually preferred Porsches...?

Thanks

DREAMERAK

It wouldn't be weird if they/it were paid to be here to defend and promote the Porsche brand. Of course it would be done through a separate company so Porsche could say "oh no, we don't do that".

http://reputationx.com/