Tom Hill: No customer cars til LATE Sept
08-22-2013, 06:05 PM
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Tom Hill: No customer cars til LATE Sept
Sorry to be the bearer of bad news ...
Spoke to Tom Hill at Carlisle today. When I last saw him at NCRS National in July, he said they'd start building customer cars in August. I asked him if that was still the case and he said absolutely not. Don't expect any customer cars til late September at best. While he would not name any specifics he said they had "about 500 mosquito bites to work out" before the customer cars will start. None of them major, but he said "we know how you guys are and we've got to get it perfect".
I thanked him and told him as painful as it is to wait, and no matter how much guys like me bother them, to please get it right before we get 'em!
They are having a number of seminars tomorrow and Saturday and we'll see what else we learn then.
Spoke to Tom Hill at Carlisle today. When I last saw him at NCRS National in July, he said they'd start building customer cars in August. I asked him if that was still the case and he said absolutely not. Don't expect any customer cars til late September at best. While he would not name any specifics he said they had "about 500 mosquito bites to work out" before the customer cars will start. None of them major, but he said "we know how you guys are and we've got to get it perfect".
I thanked him and told him as painful as it is to wait, and no matter how much guys like me bother them, to please get it right before we get 'em!
They are having a number of seminars tomorrow and Saturday and we'll see what else we learn then.
08-22-2013, 06:09 PM
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Safety Car
Sorry to be the bearer of bad news ...
Spoke to Tom Hill at Carlisle today. When I last saw him at NCRS National in July, he said they'd start building customer cars in August. I asked him if that was still the case and he said absolutely not. Don't expect any customer cars til late September at best. While he would not name any specifics he said they had "about 500 mosquito bites to work out" before the customer cars will start. None of them major, but he said "we know how you guys are and we've got to get it perfect".
I thanked him and told him as painful as it is to wait, and no matter how much guys like me bother them, to please get it right before we get 'em!
They are having a number of seminars tomorrow and Saturday and we'll see what else we learn then.
Spoke to Tom Hill at Carlisle today. When I last saw him at NCRS National in July, he said they'd start building customer cars in August. I asked him if that was still the case and he said absolutely not. Don't expect any customer cars til late September at best. While he would not name any specifics he said they had "about 500 mosquito bites to work out" before the customer cars will start. None of them major, but he said "we know how you guys are and we've got to get it perfect".
I thanked him and told him as painful as it is to wait, and no matter how much guys like me bother them, to please get it right before we get 'em!
They are having a number of seminars tomorrow and Saturday and we'll see what else we learn then.
08-22-2013, 06:59 PM
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Sorry to be the bearer of bad news ...
Spoke to Tom Hill at Carlisle today. When I last saw him at NCRS National in July, he said they'd start building customer cars in August. I asked him if that was still the case and he said absolutely not. Don't expect any customer cars til late September at best. While he would not name any specifics he said they had "about 500 mosquito bites to work out" before the customer cars will start. None of them major, but he said "we know how you guys are and we've got to get it perfect".
I thanked him and told him as painful as it is to wait, and no matter how much guys like me bother them, to please get it right before we get 'em!
They are having a number of seminars tomorrow and Saturday and we'll see what else we learn then.
Spoke to Tom Hill at Carlisle today. When I last saw him at NCRS National in July, he said they'd start building customer cars in August. I asked him if that was still the case and he said absolutely not. Don't expect any customer cars til late September at best. While he would not name any specifics he said they had "about 500 mosquito bites to work out" before the customer cars will start. None of them major, but he said "we know how you guys are and we've got to get it perfect".
I thanked him and told him as painful as it is to wait, and no matter how much guys like me bother them, to please get it right before we get 'em!
They are having a number of seminars tomorrow and Saturday and we'll see what else we learn then.
And another attendee of Carlisle today reported earlier:
"Sat in Tom Hill's car today . . . . . . Big news!!! He said the line is rolling!!! Mr Hendricks car rolled off already. They are taking there time. Doing about 20 cars right now. They will build speed as they go. He said if all QC holds work out that some cars may ship in 3 weeks or so. Key word is "may". They are taking there time on the ramp up. Kudos to them."
08-22-2013, 07:10 PM
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Conflicting news for sure. Will see tomorrow what others have to say. Seemed like it was just Tom Hill with the one C7. Show really starts tomorrow and that's when Tadge and others will be there. The plot thickens ...
08-22-2013, 07:21 PM
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Melting Slicks
Aiready on the haulers! Time to apply for the loan and get all the ducks in order.
08-22-2013, 07:27 PM
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Burning Brakes
No big plot. No conspiracy theory. I stand by my conversation with him and overheard to OP conversation as well. He said they "had" about 500 mosquito bites to work out. Minor stuff they wanted perfect. Cars are rolling slowly and none will be released until they are confident they are perfect! All good 
08-22-2013, 07:35 PM
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Actual GM quote...people just get bent out of shape no matter what.
The 2014 Corvette Stingray coupe goes on sale in the third quarter of 2013 for a suggested starting retail price of $51,995, excluding tax, title, and license fees.
08-22-2013, 07:39 PM
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Burning Brakes
Sounds like 1st and 2nd consensus cars could all arrive at once at the 900 Corvette dealers on the last week of September / first week of October. Sound be an exciting time - maybe a party is in order !!
08-22-2013, 07:44 PM
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AIR FORCE VETERAN
What is it with GM.. They picked Jan13, 2013 to first show the car....so now they can not let people know when the first build date is scheduled. Make excuses for them if you wish, it is a bad business practice.
08-22-2013, 07:51 PM
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I would guess there's only a handful of people on this forum that understand the complexity of getting an assembly line running with a completely new generation. The task has to be daunting.....
08-22-2013, 07:57 PM
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There are 16 ten minute talks scheduled in the Engineers Tent over Friday and Saturday, each by a different engineer. I will try to ask each one of them, which should result in at least 17 different answers. Either that or we need someone to hide in the bushes outside Rick Hendrick's place and tell us when #1 rolls in ...
08-22-2013, 08:00 PM
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There are 16 ten minute talks scheduled in the Engineers Tent over Friday and Saturday, each by a different engineer. I will try to ask each one of them, which should result in at least 17 different answers. Either that or we need someone to hide in the bushes outside Rick Hendrick's place and tell us when #1 rolls in ...
08-22-2013, 08:03 PM
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The loads of BS that we are forced to endure or ignore...
I too, want the car right. The problem is NOT the delay, the problem is the EPIC FAIL of communication between GM, their customers that have put down deposits, and even their biggest and best dealerships are left in the dark. In fact, if you have been following this BS saga, there are screenshots of "GM Chat Lines" giving out total fairy tales to customers who foolishly believe what they are told. It is no wonder GM had to file for bankruptcy... I love the new car, and am excited to get it, but I hate being associated with this level of incompetence, I feel soiled by it...
PS... I can see people responding now, "dude, chill out, the third quarter isn't over. This isn't life or death... blah blah blah... You are the same people who elected Obama and justify these types of bad business practices... period.
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08-22-2013, 08:08 PM
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^ I think you just insert Tab A's into Slot B's, weld some stuff together, bolt the conveyor thing-a-majig to the part with the chains, have a couple of engineers use their slide rules to calculate the lunch order, put a couple Quality Is Everyone's Job signs up, lubricate anything that makes noise and plug it all into some 220, 221 electric, whatever it takes - DONE
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08-22-2013, 08:08 PM
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08-22-2013, 08:17 PM
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I agree with you 110%. I am in the first consensus with MacMulkin, the fact that GM chooses to not communicate, even with their largest dealers, is an abomination. Even within this thread we have two different stories. About 1 month ago, when I realized all the supposed TPW's and "build codes" were an utter joke, I stopped watching and stressing on it. We were lead to believe all along that the first orders would be delivered in late summer, that became "LATE third quarter" now it's October at best.
I too, want the car right. The problem is NOT the delay, the problem is the EPIC FAIL of communication between GM, their customers that have put down deposits, and even their biggest and best dealerships are left in the dark. In fact, if you have been following this BS saga, there are screenshots of "GM Chat Lines" giving out total fairy tales to customers who foolishly believe what they are told. It is no wonder GM had to file for bankruptcy... I love the new car, and am excited to get it, but I hate being associated with this level of incompetence, I feel soiled by it...
PS... I can see people responding now, "dude, chill out, the third quarter isn't over. This isn't life or death... blah blah blah... You are the same people who elected Obama and justify these types of bad business practices... period.
I too, want the car right. The problem is NOT the delay, the problem is the EPIC FAIL of communication between GM, their customers that have put down deposits, and even their biggest and best dealerships are left in the dark. In fact, if you have been following this BS saga, there are screenshots of "GM Chat Lines" giving out total fairy tales to customers who foolishly believe what they are told. It is no wonder GM had to file for bankruptcy... I love the new car, and am excited to get it, but I hate being associated with this level of incompetence, I feel soiled by it...
PS... I can see people responding now, "dude, chill out, the third quarter isn't over. This isn't life or death... blah blah blah... You are the same people who elected Obama and justify these types of bad business practices... period.
BTW, you are welcome to be upset all you want but you could be a Viper customer reading the MT Best Drivers Car placing the Viper last behind the Ford Focus.
08-22-2013, 08:19 PM
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Looks like we'll have the line running tomorrow....
Oops, a problem came up, we're shooting for Wednesday......
Gee, three more unexpected problems arose today, maybe Monday......
A few more unexpected issues arose, maybe by Thursday....
It would be a three ring circus, public relations disaster..
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08-22-2013, 08:21 PM
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^ I think you just insert Tab A's into Slot B's, weld some stuff together, bolt the conveyor thing-a-majig to the part with the chains, have a couple of engineers use their slide rules to figure out the lunch order, put a couple Quality Is Everyone's Job signs up, lubricate anything that makes noise and plug it all into some 220, 221 electric, whatever it takes - DONE
For those who STILL don't get it, how many more times does GM have to say, "The car will be available in the THIRD QUARTER"? Third quarter ends Sept 30. For the calendar challenged, that will be the end of NEXT MONTH! 'Nuff said. Sheesh!