Is the automatic C7 the fastest production auto ever made?
08-18-2013, 12:04 PM
#41
Race Director
08-18-2013, 04:55 PM
#43
Melting Slicks
Everyone knows GM dropped the ball not introducing the C7 with an optional dual clutch tranny. This is a carry over slushbox with a few fancy tweaks, and is most assuredly going to be replaced with an all new unit in the very near future, as occurred with the C6. Limiting this thread to autos is goofy since a number of performance cars don't even offer an auto. Bang for the buck the C7 cannot touch a Shelby GT500 at 3.5 and 11.5, so quit crowing about how fast the C7 auto is and how the C7 is half the cost of a particular Audi.
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08-18-2013, 04:57 PM
#44
Pro
08-18-2013, 05:16 PM
#45
Melting Slicks
Everyone knows GM dropped the ball not introducing the C7 with an optional dual clutch tranny. This is a carry over slushbox with a few fancy tweaks, and is most assuredly going to be replaced with an all new unit in the very near future, as occurred with the C6. Limiting this thread to autos is goofy since a number of performance cars don't even offer an auto. Bang for the buck the C7 cannot touch a Shelby GT500 at 3.5 and 11.5, so quit crowing about how fast the C7 auto is and how the C7 is half the cost of a particular Audi.
08-18-2013, 05:40 PM
#46
Race Director
lol destroy? I highly dought that. Go look up laguna seca and see where it's at on that list. The only thing that will get destroyed if the vette tries to race it in a stright line dig, roll give the vette 2 cars it will get bitched slapped. The gt500 does very well at the track
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08-18-2013, 07:16 PM
#47
Melting Slicks
lol destroy? I highly dought that. Go look up laguna seca and see where it's at on that list. The only thing that will get destroyed if the vette tries to race it in a stright line dig, roll give the vette 2 cars it will get bitched slapped. The gt500 does very well at the track
http://www.caranddriver.com/features...o-2013-page-10
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08-18-2013, 10:42 PM
#48
Melting Slicks
That's a great argument if you track your car, which most won't, but it might make you feel a bit better the next time one of those Shelby's owns you on the way to work. I'm a Vette guy, but doggin' the bang for buck appeal of a Shelby is just sour grapes on your part.
08-18-2013, 11:13 PM
#49
Le Mans Master
this thread cracks me up! honestly do you think that the buyer of a 6 figure car cares about 0-60? here how transaction goes.....they walk in a dealership see a car that catches their eye and BAM..they stroke a check,,done. You guys can argue to your blue in the face but that's the truth.
08-18-2013, 11:37 PM
#50
An Audi S8 will waste a C7 in 0-60 runs. AWD is the key, but that big sedan even tops the C7 in trap speed.
http://www.motortrend.com/roadtests/...t/viewall.html
http://www.motortrend.com/roadtests/...t/viewall.html
That's apples to grapes.
2013 Audi S8 BASE PRICE $110,895 PRICE AS TESTED $125,995
08-18-2013, 11:38 PM
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this thread cracks me up! honestly do you think that the buyer of a 6 figure car cares about 0-60? here how transaction goes.....they walk in a dealership see a car that catches their eye and BAM..they stroke a check,,done. You guys can argue to your blue in the face but that's the truth.
08-18-2013, 11:47 PM
#52
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Not really. An "automatic" is a transmission that will shift itself. Torque converter, dual clutch, whatever.....if it will shift itself then by the very definition of the word, it's an automatic.
It's funny, the dual clutch transmission used in a Ford Fusion is called, by Ford, an "automatic". The dual clutch transmission used in a Ferrari is called a "manual". Same design, does the same thing.....marketing 101, kids.
Jimmy
It's funny, the dual clutch transmission used in a Ford Fusion is called, by Ford, an "automatic". The dual clutch transmission used in a Ferrari is called a "manual". Same design, does the same thing.....marketing 101, kids.
Jimmy
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08-18-2013, 11:57 PM
#53
Burning Brakes
One day soon we will see a test of the automatic z51 mrc with npp 1lt car and I believe it is capable of 3.8 to sixty...
It'll be a fast car for sure and yes I believe it will be the fastest or quickest production automatic transmission corvette ever.
Z51 for the slightly different rear axle ratio?
Usually the CTS v and Camaro zL1 automatics are a tenth of a second faster in acceleration....sometimes their trap speed in mph are 1 or 2 less in the quarter.
It'll be a fast car for sure and yes I believe it will be the fastest or quickest production automatic transmission corvette ever.
Z51 for the slightly different rear axle ratio?
Usually the CTS v and Camaro zL1 automatics are a tenth of a second faster in acceleration....sometimes their trap speed in mph are 1 or 2 less in the quarter.
08-19-2013, 12:06 AM
#54
Melting Slicks
this thread cracks me up! honestly do you think that the buyer of a 6 figure car cares about 0-60? here how transaction goes.....they walk in a dealership see a car that catches their eye and BAM..they stroke a check,,done. You guys can argue to your blue in the face but that's the truth.
08-19-2013, 09:55 AM
#55
Melting Slicks
That's a great argument if you track your car, which most won't, but it might make you feel a bit better the next time one of those Shelby's owns you on the way to work. I'm a Vette guy, but doggin' the bang for buck appeal of a Shelby is just sour grapes on your part.
perhaps this one?
http://www.uncommonforum.com/
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08-19-2013, 10:46 AM
#57
Team Owner
this thread cracks me up! honestly do you think that the buyer of a 6 figure car cares about 0-60? here how transaction goes.....they walk in a dealership see a car that catches their eye and BAM..they stroke a check,,done. You guys can argue to your blue in the face but that's the truth.
08-19-2013, 11:42 AM
#58
Southern Piedmont Area
Originally Posted by formulaWA
GM says the automatic will make 0-60 in 3.8 secs.
Anybody know if there has ever been a faster production car with an automatic?
Originally Posted by ltdodge
2014 porsche 911 turbo pdk 2.9 seconds
The Bugatti Veyron Super Sport 2.46 seconds
Indeed, high end automatic transmissions have become so sophisticated that they will now easily and consistently outperform the standard transmission variant.
It's now about at the point where the only reason to get a standard transmission is if you just enjoy rowing while you drive.
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-Ward
08-19-2013, 12:09 PM
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Actually you are wrong. I'm not saying that everyone cares. But a very good friend of mine recently bought an S8, and he does care about 0-60 times. You might also want to go on to YouTube and do a search of all the guys (especially in Europe) who are drag racing an awful lot of $100K plus cars at airfields and such.
Some do, some don't.
08-19-2013, 12:39 PM
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this thread cracks me up! honestly do you think that the buyer of a 6 figure car cares about 0-60? here how transaction goes.....they walk in a dealership see a car that catches their eye and BAM..they stroke a check,,done. You guys can argue to your blue in the face but that's the truth.
It won't be true for EVERYONE, but his generalization is accurate.
I promise my mom doesn't know what the hell her SL550 does 0-60, lol.
I don't know a single person, personally, who spent over 100k who cared how fast the car was. They wanted the car they wanted and went and bought it. They either knew it was sporty, knew it was luxury or just liked the car....it didn't have to be the best at any of them.