Your Thoughts On The Changes Between The Z51 And The Z06 & ZR1?
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Your Thoughts On The Changes Between The Z51 And The Z06 & ZR1?
What do you think?
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Z06 and ZR1 get a new *** and maybe a "good" auto trans.
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Z06 natural aspirated more HP then Z51. How much more your quess is as good as mine, ZR1 forced induction more HP then the Z06. Of course all this is speculation seeing we are not 100% sure that there will be a Z06 or ZR1. We all know that GM will be releasing a high performance version in 2014 or 2015, but not sure if they will carry on the Z06 tradition or mot.
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I am not looking for any major body work revisions, spoiler, splitter, etc. I would guess larger brakes, slightly wider tires, maybe a zero shift tranny, and, of course more hp. A retune of the LT1 could produce some major hp increase of, say 100+ over the base 455. Mag ride as standard, maybe a new color specific to a Z whatever its called. The existing Z51 produces some good track numbers and would not take much to get it to equal or better the C6 Z06 times, much of which is due to greater hp. Just my take on it.
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After seeing the car in person last week, I no longer dislike the rear. It appears much more rounded in person. Could it be better, IMO yes. However, a complete new redesign to the rear is not required (and no chance in hell GM attempts a redesign). At best, we could see the bottom half of the rear bumper changed as the C7 progresses through its cycle.
What I REALLY want to see changed on the performance model is a redesigned front fender vent. I HATE the current design. The opening in the body work is too thin and the plastic trim is just stupid. I am hoping they get rid of that plastic disaster that, IMO, ruins the whole side fender view. In addition to that, I am hoping they recess the bodywork deeper into the fender so that the vent opening is larger. As is, it's tall, thin, and looks too "tuner" and not muscular enough. Basically, they need to acomplish the same thing they did when they Cchanged the front fender design on the base C6 to the C6 ZO6/ZR1.
oh yeah, and give me some nice fat tires and flared fenders.
What I REALLY want to see changed on the performance model is a redesigned front fender vent. I HATE the current design. The opening in the body work is too thin and the plastic trim is just stupid. I am hoping they get rid of that plastic disaster that, IMO, ruins the whole side fender view. In addition to that, I am hoping they recess the bodywork deeper into the fender so that the vent opening is larger. As is, it's tall, thin, and looks too "tuner" and not muscular enough. Basically, they need to acomplish the same thing they did when they Cchanged the front fender design on the base C6 to the C6 ZO6/ZR1.
oh yeah, and give me some nice fat tires and flared fenders.
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I expect a hi-po variant. Question in my mind is whether they'll do two again (ala Z and ZR), or just one. I wouldn't be surprise if we see one. As much as I'd like to hope they'd do a higher hp NA LTx, and an FI LTx, I won't be shocked if we only see the latter.
C6 was the only gen where both the Z and ZR appeared within the same gen.
C6 was the only gen where both the Z and ZR appeared within the same gen.
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I expect a hi-po variant. Question in my mind is whether they'll do two again (ala Z and ZR), or just one. I wouldn't be surprise if we see one. As much as I'd like to hope they'd do a higher hp NA LTx, and an FI LTx, I won't be shocked if we only see the latter.
C6 was the only gen where both the Z and ZR appeared within the same gen.
C6 was the only gen where both the Z and ZR appeared within the same gen.
A naturally aspirated engine would be nice, but I have a feeling forced induction will be used.
As far as the body goes, I would guess that a front splitter would be added and maybe a little different spoiler. A slightly revised front fascia would be a neat addition as well. After seeing one in person in a parking lot, the design of the rear end is growing on me. The only thing I would change on the car is the hood design. Not the vent, but the actual hood. It just seems like there is one too many creases/lines running the length of the hood. A smoother hood would, in my opinion, be the finishing touch on the car. I don't think it's likely to happen though... still an awesome car!
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I expect a hi-po variant. Question in my mind is whether they'll do two again (ala Z and ZR), or just one. I wouldn't be surprise if we see one. As much as I'd like to hope they'd do a higher hp NA LTx, and an FI LTx, I won't be shocked if we only see the latter.
C6 was the only gen where both the Z and ZR appeared within the same gen.
C6 was the only gen where both the Z and ZR appeared within the same gen.
I think the business case for two hi-po variants of the C7 will be difficult. Unit sales of the Z06 and ZR1 were quite low.
I expect there will be only one C7 variant as well.
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The other factor is the Z51 Stingray moving close to C6 Z06 performance, which one could argue also mitigates the need for 2 hi-po models. Have the Stingray and then add the FI variant.
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Next January a ZO6 will be unveiled at Detroit with a 427 version of the LT1. Numerous performance components will alter this version of the C7 to world class standards. January 2015 at Detroit will see the ZR1 with Eaton's latest version of their supercharger. Further performance enhancements will put the ZR1 in the Hyper car arena. Expect wide body, larger tires, far more aggressive aero detailing, huge Brembo Ceramic brakes. Same format as C6 models only far more comprehensive. World class performance for all 3 models in their respective classes. Some form of DCT or at least a fast shifting Auto transmission (www.zeroshift.com) should be available only on the ZO6 and ZR1 models to differentiate it from base Stingray. The current C7 hood and vent configuration would allow a ZR1 style hood window which could be very dramatic looking on the C7 ZR1. Both ZO6 and ZR1 to be fixed roof for a even stiffer chassis. All three C7 models will set record times in their respective classes for Nurburgring Nordshliefe, Laguna Seca, and VIR lap records. You can count on that !!!
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Next January a ZO6 will be unveiled at Detroit with a 427 version of the LT1. Numerous performance components will alter this version of the C7 to world class standards. January 2015 at Detroit will see the ZR1 with Eaton's latest version of their supercharger. Further performance enhancements will put the ZR1 in the Hyper car arena. Expect wide body, larger tires, far more aggressive aero detailing, huge Brembo Ceramic brakes. Same format as C6 models only far more comprehensive. World class performance for all 3 models in their respective classes. Some form of DCT or at least a fast shifting Auto transmission (www.zeroshift.com) should be available only on the ZO6 and ZR1 models to differentiate it from base Stingray. The current C7 hood and vent configuration would allow a ZR1 style hood window which could be very dramatic looking on the C7 ZR1. Both ZO6 and ZR1 to be fixed roof for a even stiffer chassis. All three C7 models will set record times in their respective classes for Nurburgring Nordshliefe, Laguna Seca, and VIR lap records. You can count on that !!!
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I don think there will be zr1 any more or at least GM didn't stsrt thinking about it.
So my thought is a next step with FI model.
I think we have this pic right now and it's not N/A as I see:
this is the N/A LT1
So my thought is a next step with FI model.
I think we have this pic right now and it's not N/A as I see:
this is the N/A LT1
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With the rumors of a cheaper 5.7l v8 coupe, I think the stingray IS ur ZO6. As disappointing as that might be, it won't be a surprise if we have just 1 Hi/Po Z. That makes it the coupe, the stingray and the Z. Well whatever they're planning for the Z i want it to have a very very wide booty . An obnoxiously wide rear and real fat tires to go with it
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I'm not sure we'll see a widebody. This design is already much more exaggerated than the base C6.
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Lower, wider, bigger tires, bigger brakes and more power is a given. GM won't have a problem with that.
Let's not get things twisted; the Z06's competition is cars like the 570 hp 458 Italia, the 616 hp McLaren 12c and soon to be 600 hp Gallardo replacement. All of those cars run 3 flat 0 - 60 and low 11s to 10.9 1/4s. As you can see, the ZR1 had way more power than all of them and fell short of those numbers because it only had a manual. The Z twins will have a rude awakening if GM thinks they can only get by with manuals for them.
The Z06 needs to focus on down force, transmission and exotic appeal. Giving it a retractable rear spoiler that adjusts as speed will significantly help plant the car and make it more exotic right off the bat. The only thing I'm concerned about is the tranny. It will either launch the Z06 to the top of the class or make it just another one of the guys.
Let's not get things twisted; the Z06's competition is cars like the 570 hp 458 Italia, the 616 hp McLaren 12c and soon to be 600 hp Gallardo replacement. All of those cars run 3 flat 0 - 60 and low 11s to 10.9 1/4s. As you can see, the ZR1 had way more power than all of them and fell short of those numbers because it only had a manual. The Z twins will have a rude awakening if GM thinks they can only get by with manuals for them.
The Z06 needs to focus on down force, transmission and exotic appeal. Giving it a retractable rear spoiler that adjusts as speed will significantly help plant the car and make it more exotic right off the bat. The only thing I'm concerned about is the tranny. It will either launch the Z06 to the top of the class or make it just another one of the guys.