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Old 07-29-2013, 08:04 AM   #1
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Default Edmunds 2014 Chevrolet Corvette Stingray Z51 vs. 2013 Nissan GT-R Premium Track Test

I didn't want this to get lost in the Z51 vs. Porche thread...

http://www.edmunds.com/car-reviews/t...rack-test.html

Interesting comparison. The C7 does quite well, especially since it's over $30K less.
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Neat comparison. Interesting to read their "Comments" under the acceleration section for the GT-R. There is no "A" setting, the LC 'resets' after five launches (requiring a 1.5 mile "cooldown" drive) and if they were "losing power" on the 1-2 shift it is because the car was spinning.
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Old 07-29-2013, 08:29 AM   #3
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wish Edmunds would stop lying about the 60-0 distance: nobody but them got 93'. Everybody else has gotten 104....

CORRECT YOUR **** EDMUNDS

my bad, even in the paragraph titled braking, the 93' figure is not there and their best was 106'

what was i saying.... oh yeah:

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Why do they compare the price of an optioned out C7 versus the base price of a GTR, quoting only a $30k difference? To make it apples vs apples, they should consider the base price of the C7 if they're using the base price of the GTR. Once you do that, the $30k difference becomes $46k. Even though they gave the C7 a good review this pricing comparison sounds biased, they did the same apples to oranges comparison with the porsche 911.
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Why do they compare the price of an optioned out C7 versus the base price of a GTR, quoting only a $30k difference? To make it apples vs apples, they should consider the base price of the C7 if they're using the base price of the GTR. Once you do that, the $30k difference becomes $46k. Even though they gave the C7 a good review this pricing comparison sounds biased, they did the same apples to oranges comparison with the porsche 911.
We do it all the time with cars! Why buy a base car A when you can buy the fully optioned car B for less money?

That's why.
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We do it all the time with cars! Why buy a base car A when you can buy the fully optioned car B for less money?

That's why.
They should state that question then. The way it reads right now the C7 costs $30k less than the GTR, which is an understatement.
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Interesting but somewhat irrelevant comparison (until a Z06 version comes out).

But I was stunned to see the 3444 lbs. Does it just keep getting heavier?
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wish Edmunds would stop lying about the 60-0 distance: nobody but them got 93'. Everybody else has gotten 104....

CORRECT YOUR **** EDMUNDS

my bad, even in the paragraph titled braking, the 93' figure is not there and their best was 106'

what was i saying.... oh yeah:

EDMUNDS CORRECT YOUR ****!
If they actually recorded a 93 foot distance, I really can't blame them for reporting their times, can you? It wouldn't sell many magazines to tell the reader that Motor Trend or Road and Track numbers were different.

They also recorded a 12 second 1/4 mile run vs 12.2 for the other magazines, for good reason too. Watch their videos and you can see and hear that the Edmunds driver out drives the other testers in my opinion.

It's hard for anyone to suggest they "correct" their data if that's what they recorded.
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Nearly a second difference in the quarter? That's "not a big deal for 30k"?

That is a huge difference in performance.
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This is actually a $56,700 (Z51 1LT MSRC) car vs a $97,500 car comparison.

So for a $42,000 difference I will take a .9 second slower 1/4 mile car that handles and stops better.

While I love the GTR for its technical and mechanical abilities, it is a bit of a boring looking car.
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damn impressive for the base model. wait when the big boys come out to play, totally different story.
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Interesting but somewhat irrelevant comparison (until a Z06 version comes out).

But I was stunned to see the 3444 lbs. Does it just keep getting heavier?
So do almost all cars. Did you notice it was still some 400 pounds lighter then the GT-R?
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wish Edmunds would stop lying about the 60-0 distance: nobody but them got 93'. Everybody else has gotten 104....

CORRECT YOUR **** EDMUNDS

my bad, even in the paragraph titled braking, the 93' figure is not there and their best was 106'

what was i saying.... oh yeah:

EDMUNDS CORRECT YOUR ****!
The 93' is there on the chart. The 106' figure you are reading is for the GT-R.
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The GT-R is a worthy competitor. A friend loves his...when it not in the shop. He told me he's selling it before the warranty runs out because he can't afford to keep it running from his own wallet.
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Interesting but somewhat irrelevant comparison (until a Z06 version comes out).

But I was stunned to see the 3444 lbs. Does it just keep getting heavier?
Well seeing there is no Z06 available and not sure when GM will introduce the C7 version of the Z06 or what ever they call this was all that is available to test. These test that are popping up remember these are the Mule cars. Some refinements may make a difference in performance and handling once the production cars are released.
Will a C7 Z51 be able to run with the GT-R, Porsche Turbo Ferrari 458 or even the Audi R8, No it won't, but that does not mean this will not be one great powerful sports car that handles like no other Corvette.
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Old 07-29-2013, 11:38 AM   #16
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The GT-R is a worthy competitor. A friend loves his...when it not in the shop. He told me he's selling it before the warranty runs out because he can't afford to keep it running from his own wallet.
lolwut?
Rumors and urban legends like this are funny.

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This is actually a $56,700 (Z51 1LT MSRC) car vs a $97,500 car comparison.

So for a $42,000 difference I will take a .9 second slower 1/4 mile car that handles and stops better.

While I love the GTR for its technical and mechanical abilities, it is a bit of a boring looking car.
I agree, it really does get hard to make a case for the GT-R with the level of performance offered by a $56k Z51.
IMO the GT-R offers a bit more, and it is technically a 4-seater with a pretty big trunk. But GM is offering an impressive car for the price!
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My friend has an 09,and he pounds the $hit out of it at Laguna Seca. Solid as a rock..
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The 93' is there on the chart. The 106' figure you are reading is for the GT-R.
yeah i scrolled down to far... but if you belive them and their 93' then i have 20 acres of swamp land you can build on in FL to sale you for dirt cheap!
it is still misleading... and as a consumer i hate being mislead... and since they were the first to publish i thought it was insane, then MT comes along and can't duplicate....so again Edmunds needs to re-test or stop printing bs! You mean to tell me they honestly thought that the c7 base would out brake a zr1 and gen 5 viper? no one in that stellar group thought how odd that was? we aren't talking 2 tenth off a 1/4 mile but 11-13 FEET difference in braking distance! that's a truck length!
It is all about the details.
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They should also include rolling acceleration when comparing AWD cars to RWD. For example, if you look at the difference in time between 0-60 and 0-75, you get the following times for 60-75 mph:

C7: 1.5 seconds
GTR: 1.3 seconds

Difference starts to shrink, and this is only 60-75 which isn't much of a range, say if it was 60-120 or 60-150 I'd say the C7 and GTR times would be very similar.
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