First Impression: new Stingray looks like a Ferrari!
07-21-2013, 02:43 PM
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1) F12
2) 458 Italia
3) 84-86 GTO
4) Testarossa or 512 TR
5) 512 BB
6) 328 / 308
7) 599
8) Dino
9) F430
10) F355
I had forgotten about the Italia in my previous comments, which would qualify it as the best F car since the TR - imho - though I like the F12 better. I also like the LaFerrari, though I didn't put it on my list, and I also HATE the FF.
07-21-2013, 02:46 PM
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They share many of the same styling cues (obviously they're going to do that as designers....) but let's be honest. That car on the bottom looks like an old beater by comparison. "Outdated" only begins to describe how that c6 on the bottom looks.
Also, in this comparison, it brings to mind how humorous it is to see some of the c6 guys complain that the c7 design is too busy (and then they blame it on vents etc). If you look at that c6, there is a LOT going on, and almost none of it (including those rims, gills, reflectors/lights) pull together as a cohesive design. The c7 looks, by contrast, to have one smooth and flowing design thought (although if we could see the rear, I could admit that the design idea departs the smooth round concepts of the side and front a bit)
I think a comparison of the coupe fleshes this out even more - with the rear of the cabin extending now all the way to the back, and the rounded rear of the car. It departs from that old looking door-wedge shape that the rear of the c6 carries.
Also, in this comparison, it brings to mind how humorous it is to see some of the c6 guys complain that the c7 design is too busy (and then they blame it on vents etc). If you look at that c6, there is a LOT going on, and almost none of it (including those rims, gills, reflectors/lights) pull together as a cohesive design. The c7 looks, by contrast, to have one smooth and flowing design thought (although if we could see the rear, I could admit that the design idea departs the smooth round concepts of the side and front a bit)
I think a comparison of the coupe fleshes this out even more - with the rear of the cabin extending now all the way to the back, and the rounded rear of the car. It departs from that old looking door-wedge shape that the rear of the c6 carries.
07-21-2013, 03:43 PM
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Corvettes and front engine ferraris have a long standing relationship of comparable styling language.
I agree the Ferrari F12 and the c7 have sImiliar style. It's interesting especially since they are both about to come to market at the same time.
I like the f12 so the fact that the c7 shares the "look" is cool.
Ed Welburns team did an amazing job with the c7.
Welcome to the forum and good luck with your site. What's with the 3 girls wearing headbands and drinking champagne ?
I agree the Ferrari F12 and the c7 have sImiliar style. It's interesting especially since they are both about to come to market at the same time.
I like the f12 so the fact that the c7 shares the "look" is cool.
Ed Welburns team did an amazing job with the c7.
Welcome to the forum and good luck with your site. What's with the 3 girls wearing headbands and drinking champagne ?
07-21-2013, 03:47 PM
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Agreed. For me the only (albeit minor) complaint is the Torch Red paint is a little bit too orange, a tad bit more red would be perfect!
07-21-2013, 03:48 PM
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Bob buys a new Corvette and removes the badges. Jim buys a new Ferrari and removes the badges.
At the water cooler, Helen tells Jane that bob has a new Corvette and that Jim has a new Ferrari. Without walking to the parking lot and looking at the two cars, which car gets Jane wet?
At the water cooler, Helen tells Jane that bob has a new Corvette and that Jim has a new Ferrari. Without walking to the parking lot and looking at the two cars, which car gets Jane wet?
07-21-2013, 05:05 PM
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For me its:
1) F12 (
2) 458 Italia
3) 84-86 GTO
4) Testarossa or 512 TR
5) 512 BB
6) 328 / 308
7) 599
8) Dino
9) F430
10) F355
I had forgotten about the Italia in my previous comments, which would qualify it as the best F car since the TR - imho - though I like the F12 better. I also like the LaFerrari, though I didn't put it on my list, and I also HATE the FF.
1) F12 (
2) 458 Italia
3) 84-86 GTO
4) Testarossa or 512 TR
5) 512 BB
6) 328 / 308
7) 599
8) Dino
9) F430
10) F355
I had forgotten about the Italia in my previous comments, which would qualify it as the best F car since the TR - imho - though I like the F12 better. I also like the LaFerrari, though I didn't put it on my list, and I also HATE the FF.
2) 458 Italia (had one and a spider, Fast)
3) 84-86 GTO (what the 308 should have looked like --- never had one)
4) Testarossa or 512 TR (meh... never got into side strakes. I've driven several. Too complicated, interior disappoints)
5) 512 BB (trying to buy one to restore. Last of the carbed 12's)
6) 328 / 308 (had a 308 gtb and gts -- OK. Good toss-able cars. 328 -- much better inside and out. AC actually works sort of)
7) 599 (never did it for me)
8) Dino (had one 15 years. Fun but slow)
9) F430 (had a spider. Probably my favorite all around sports car)
10) F355 (wouldn't touch one for the world)
You have to see the FF in person to really judge it. Is it my favorite? No, not even close. But it's a lot better looking than most would give it credit for.
And, the 550 Maranello is also a very handsome car. Should be on this list.
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07-21-2013, 05:28 PM
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Actually, the the whole Corvette/Ferrari thing has been going on since at least the design of the C4...Ferrari is the reason we have targa tops, for better or worse.
07-21-2013, 05:53 PM
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They share many of the same styling cues (obviously they're going to do that as designers....) but let's be honest. That car on the bottom looks like an old beater by comparison. "Outdated" only begins to describe how that c6 on the bottom looks.
Also, in this comparison, it brings to mind how humorous it is to see some of the c6 guys complain that the c7 design is too busy (and then they blame it on vents etc). If you look at that c6, there is a LOT going on, and almost none of it (including those rims, gills, reflectors/lights) pull together as a cohesive design. The c7 looks, by contrast, to have one smooth and flowing design thought (although if we could see the rear, I could admit that the design idea departs the smooth round concepts of the side and front a bit)
I think a comparison of the coupe fleshes this out even more - with the rear of the cabin extending now all the way to the back, and the rounded rear of the car. It departs from that old looking door-wedge shape that the rear of the c6 carries.
Also, in this comparison, it brings to mind how humorous it is to see some of the c6 guys complain that the c7 design is too busy (and then they blame it on vents etc). If you look at that c6, there is a LOT going on, and almost none of it (including those rims, gills, reflectors/lights) pull together as a cohesive design. The c7 looks, by contrast, to have one smooth and flowing design thought (although if we could see the rear, I could admit that the design idea departs the smooth round concepts of the side and front a bit)
I think a comparison of the coupe fleshes this out even more - with the rear of the cabin extending now all the way to the back, and the rounded rear of the car. It departs from that old looking door-wedge shape that the rear of the c6 carries.
That pic of the C7 is shot with a wide angle lens which make the profile, it's best angle, look even better. The rest of the car is a mess, with a rear end that look like a sixth grade class was given the assignment to design either a Batmobile or a goofy hot wheels car.
There....happy now?
07-21-2013, 05:53 PM
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They share many of the same styling cues (obviously they're going to do that as designers....) but let's be honest. That car on the bottom looks like an old beater by comparison. "Outdated" only begins to describe how that c6 on the bottom looks.
Also, in this comparison, it brings to mind how humorous it is to see some of the c6 guys complain that the c7 design is too busy (and then they blame it on vents etc). If you look at that c6, there is a LOT going on, and almost none of it (including those rims, gills, reflectors/lights) pull together as a cohesive design. The c7 looks, by contrast, to have one smooth and flowing design thought (although if we could see the rear, I could admit that the design idea departs the smooth round concepts of the side and front a bit)
I think a comparison of the coupe fleshes this out even more - with the rear of the cabin extending now all the way to the back, and the rounded rear of the car. It departs from that old looking door-wedge shape that the rear of the c6 carries.
Also, in this comparison, it brings to mind how humorous it is to see some of the c6 guys complain that the c7 design is too busy (and then they blame it on vents etc). If you look at that c6, there is a LOT going on, and almost none of it (including those rims, gills, reflectors/lights) pull together as a cohesive design. The c7 looks, by contrast, to have one smooth and flowing design thought (although if we could see the rear, I could admit that the design idea departs the smooth round concepts of the side and front a bit)
I think a comparison of the coupe fleshes this out even more - with the rear of the cabin extending now all the way to the back, and the rounded rear of the car. It departs from that old looking door-wedge shape that the rear of the c6 carries.
07-21-2013, 06:15 PM
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1) F12 (on the list for one. Test drove it. Crazy fast. Still debating if I should buy. Depreciation is a worry.)
2) 458 Italia (had one and a spider, Fast)
3) 84-86 GTO (what the 308 should have looked like --- never had one)
And, the 550 Maranello is also a very handsome car. Should be on this list.
2) 458 Italia (had one and a spider, Fast)
3) 84-86 GTO (what the 308 should have looked like --- never had one)
And, the 550 Maranello is also a very handsome car. Should be on this list.
Those top three (and your suggested add of the 550) are the best all-time IMO.
The F12 IMO is the top sports car on the planet to own and drive. You should get one. And start a trend of those cars actually getting driven instead of just being garage floor art. What a machine.
This thread has been helpful. If I get a 7 it's going to be TR. Great color on the 7.
07-21-2013, 06:20 PM
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Your two vert pictures bring up something that's been mentioned here before:
A C7 coupe in a light or bright color shows all that is new and exciting about the C7; if you don't like all the changes and want a traditional looking Vette get a vert and get a dark color
A C7 coupe in a light or bright color shows all that is new and exciting about the C7; if you don't like all the changes and want a traditional looking Vette get a vert and get a dark color
07-21-2013, 06:53 PM
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I dig my c6 yet the fast angles of the c7 really give it a new look.
For example the front side scoop is really creating motion even while the car is sitting still.
The C6 always looked great to me and it still does yet the fluidity (SP) of the C7 is exciting.
The angled front overhang design on leading edge of the front bumper is also very exciting.
We're talking style as we discuss the c7 to the C6.
The baskethandle on the b pillar of the c6 does offer less sleekness compared to the new design of the hidden b pillar of the c7.
I definitely admire the new c7 front lights and the vents on the rear of the C7 make a statement while the four tail lights are interesting as well.
I like my c6 design...while the c7 is much more modern.
9 years for the c6 has been a good long run and the car is still attractive.
I do acknowledge the newness of the C7 does play a part although I feel the design itself is well done and will be timeless as are most corvettes.
JMO
For example the front side scoop is really creating motion even while the car is sitting still.
The C6 always looked great to me and it still does yet the fluidity (SP) of the C7 is exciting.
The angled front overhang design on leading edge of the front bumper is also very exciting.
We're talking style as we discuss the c7 to the C6.
The baskethandle on the b pillar of the c6 does offer less sleekness compared to the new design of the hidden b pillar of the c7.
I definitely admire the new c7 front lights and the vents on the rear of the C7 make a statement while the four tail lights are interesting as well.
I like my c6 design...while the c7 is much more modern.
9 years for the c6 has been a good long run and the car is still attractive.
I do acknowledge the newness of the C7 does play a part although I feel the design itself is well done and will be timeless as are most corvettes.
JMO
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07-21-2013, 06:58 PM
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Is it really necessary to bash the C6? It's still a stunning car and always will be.....but since you like to play that game, here you go:
That pic of the C7 is shot with a wide angle lens which make the profile, it's best angle, look even better. The rest of the car is a mess, with a rear end that look like a sixth grade class was given the assignment to design either a Batmobile or a goofy hot wheels car.
There....happy now?
That pic of the C7 is shot with a wide angle lens which make the profile, it's best angle, look even better. The rest of the car is a mess, with a rear end that look like a sixth grade class was given the assignment to design either a Batmobile or a goofy hot wheels car.
There....happy now?
I'll start by apologizing for the hyperbole. No, the c6 doesn't look like an "old beater" - I was wrong on that. There's nothing beater about it, it's in fine condition. But it does look "old."
C6's aren't visually appealing to me. Never really had a thing for them, and I never really considered them a head-turner. C7's, on the other hand, provide that spark.
It's a personal preference thing. No need for any anger or emotions over it, and I to extent I dissed on one of your cars with my misplaced hyperbole earlier, I apologize. I hope you enjoy them.
07-21-2013, 07:25 PM
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Frankly, I just don't see how anyone can look at these two cars and say the C7 is busier than that C6 GS. The gills, the brake air scoops, the marker lights, and the wheels are all 'busier' on the C6.
Beyond that is just whether you have 'cooled' to the C6's look vs the C7's look or not. Both look great (ok, maybe not the GS's gills
) and are great examples of the Corvette.
Beyond that is just whether you have 'cooled' to the C6's look vs the C7's look or not. Both look great (ok, maybe not the GS's gills
) and are great examples of the Corvette.
07-21-2013, 07:28 PM
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07-21-2013, 07:38 PM
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Bob buys a new Corvette and removes the badges. Jim buys a new Ferrari and removes the badges.
At the water cooler, Helen tells Jane that bob has a new Corvette and that Jim has a new Ferrari. Without walking to the parking lot and looking at the two cars, which car gets Jane wet?
At the water cooler, Helen tells Jane that bob has a new Corvette and that Jim has a new Ferrari. Without walking to the parking lot and looking at the two cars, which car gets Jane wet?
07-21-2013, 07:52 PM
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I'm sorry but I just do not understand all the talk about the C6 looking "dated" compared to the C7. It's simply just new to your eyes. You haven't seen one. In contrast, you have been looking at the C6 for 9 years. As time passes, you will begin to look at the two designs as simply being different; similar to how you view the C1 versus the C2 now.
07-21-2013, 07:54 PM
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I think to me, the design cues just look old school. Lots of straight edges. Lots of today's designs, including supercars or not, are about sexy curves etc. Over the years, they added to the c6 it to try and make it look updated (gills etc??) - but i think that just makes it look busy, and somewhat old school. Again, just my opinion.
I got to sit in a new 427 today which, on the other hand, looked okay. The interior was certainly dated.
I got to sit in a new 427 today which, on the other hand, looked okay. The interior was certainly dated.
