Manual transmission with parking brake
07-08-2013, 11:05 AM
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Melting Slicks
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Manual transmission with parking brake
It's a pretty common move when starting on a steep hill with a manual transmission to use the parking brake to hold the car while releasing the clutch so that the car doesn't coast backwards too far.
But I have zero experience driving a manual transmission with an electronic parking brake, like the C7 apparently has.
With an automatic transmission and electronic parking brake, some cars will automatically release the parking brake when you start accelerating. You don't have to press the parking brake button to release it.
Does anyone know if that's the way it will work on the C7 with a manual transmission? Because if it does, I'm thinking a steep hill-start will be even easier with an electronic parking brake.
But I have zero experience driving a manual transmission with an electronic parking brake, like the C7 apparently has.
With an automatic transmission and electronic parking brake, some cars will automatically release the parking brake when you start accelerating. You don't have to press the parking brake button to release it.
Does anyone know if that's the way it will work on the C7 with a manual transmission? Because if it does, I'm thinking a steep hill-start will be even easier with an electronic parking brake.
07-08-2013, 11:12 AM
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It's super easy.
You just set the parking brake and it holds automatically until it senses the car moving forwards. Then, it releases for you.
Really great for being on steep hills.
You just set the parking brake and it holds automatically until it senses the car moving forwards. Then, it releases for you.
Really great for being on steep hills.
07-08-2013, 11:19 AM
#3
I don't think I've ever used a parking brake for that but yeah, what Sin City said. I'm pretty sure it worked like that in the CTS-V I drove but that was awhile ago.
07-08-2013, 12:02 PM
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Le Mans Master
It is also pretty common to heal and toe while starting on an incline. You use the toe on your right foot to hold the brakes, feather out the clutch with your left foot, and give it gas with the heal of your right foot.
07-08-2013, 12:14 PM
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Race Director
Well, I hope you are correct, but I can tell you for sure that it does NOT work that way in my 2013 Volt with the electric parking brake. Not that it necessarily matters, but it has the same control handle as a C7.
07-08-2013, 12:18 PM
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Drifting
I'm used to the old way of holding with the pull up (between seat and tunnel or on tunnel) parking brake and releasing as you let out the clutch. I'm going to miss that :-(
07-08-2013, 12:54 PM
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I just start letting go of the clutch and then swap the right foot over from brake to gas when I feel it grab. Backwards coast is only a few inches at most, usually nothing perceptible at all.
Using the parking brake to accomplish this task just seems like more work.
Using the parking brake to accomplish this task just seems like more work.
07-08-2013, 01:07 PM
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07-08-2013, 01:10 PM
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Yesterday while returning to my parked manual transmission car, I noticed that I FORGOT to pull the park brake or leave it in gear. I do this at least once a year just because I am distracted or forgetful. Needless to say, I was pretty pissed off at myself for doing it (again). I was luck nobody leaned on the car and got it rolling the slow slope in the parking lot.
With the electric park braking system (in GM's design), is there a way for the electric brakes to automatically engage as soon as the ignition is turned off, etc.? This will prevent stupid accidental mistakes like the one I had yesterday.
With the electric park braking system (in GM's design), is there a way for the electric brakes to automatically engage as soon as the ignition is turned off, etc.? This will prevent stupid accidental mistakes like the one I had yesterday.
07-08-2013, 01:12 PM
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Le Mans Master
I never used a parking brake for steep hills, instead I focus 100% on my shift and realize that I cannot afford to take it for granted.
07-08-2013, 01:41 PM
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Burning Brakes
why would the Ebrake release if senses car moving forward? Wouldn't that defeat its purpose? Or does car know it is being driven instead of rolling down a hill.I live in Indiana......very flat! We just release clutch while removing foot off brake and then apply the go juice.
07-08-2013, 01:44 PM
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I'm lost why would the Ebrake release if senses car moving forward? Wouldn't that defeat its purpose? Or does car know it is being driven instead of rolling down a hill.
I live in Indiana......very flat! We just release clutch while removing foot off brake and then apply the go juice.
why would the Ebrake release if senses car moving forward? Wouldn't that defeat its purpose? Or does car know it is being driven instead of rolling down a hill.I live in Indiana......very flat! We just release clutch while removing foot off brake and then apply the go juice.
07-08-2013, 02:15 PM
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Drifting
Here you go:
Automatic EPB Release
The EPB will automatically release if the vehicle is running, placed into gear, and an attempt is made to drive away. Avoid rapid acceleration when the EPB is applied, to preserve parking brake lining life.
The EPB can also be used to prevent roll back for vehicles with a manual transmission taking off on a hill. When no roll back is desired, an applied EPB will allow both feet to be used for the clutch and accelerator pedals in preparation for starting the vehicle moving in the intended direction. In this case, there is no need to push the switch to release the EPB.
The EPB will automatically release if the vehicle is running, placed into gear, and an attempt is made to drive away. Avoid rapid acceleration when the EPB is applied, to preserve parking brake lining life.
The EPB can also be used to prevent roll back for vehicles with a manual transmission taking off on a hill. When no roll back is desired, an applied EPB will allow both feet to be used for the clutch and accelerator pedals in preparation for starting the vehicle moving in the intended direction. In this case, there is no need to push the switch to release the EPB.
07-08-2013, 02:19 PM
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Here you go:
Automatic EPB Release
The EPB will automatically release if the vehicle is running, placed into gear, and an attempt is made to drive away. Avoid rapid acceleration when the EPB is applied, to preserve parking brake lining life.
The EPB can also be used to prevent roll back for vehicles with a manual transmission taking off on a hill. When no roll back is desired, an applied EPB will allow both feet to be used for the clutch and accelerator pedals in preparation for starting the vehicle moving in the intended direction. In this case, there is no need to push the switch to release the EPB.
The EPB will automatically release if the vehicle is running, placed into gear, and an attempt is made to drive away. Avoid rapid acceleration when the EPB is applied, to preserve parking brake lining life.
The EPB can also be used to prevent roll back for vehicles with a manual transmission taking off on a hill. When no roll back is desired, an applied EPB will allow both feet to be used for the clutch and accelerator pedals in preparation for starting the vehicle moving in the intended direction. In this case, there is no need to push the switch to release the EPB.
07-08-2013, 02:25 PM
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You don't need an electronic parking brake for that feature. My M3 had it, and had a manual parking brake. It activated when depressing the clutch pedal before releasing the brakes. It held the car for 2 seconds, or when car started moving, whichever occurred first. That's the best method, but at least the C7 has a way to deal with that, if desired.