Davy_Baby9

I fully expect this thread to be 18 pages by the time I get home from work.

Kappa

No its not. GM times are faster than C/D's time by a lot. Head to head its probably not that close.

BlueOx

Probably a good guess...

BlueOx

On the drag strip or the track or both?

Bill17601

It is mostly speculation... We wil read all the opinions, including mine, and then wait and see for some better testing. Head to head on the same track on the same day. Apples to apples.

JoesC5

You tell me; if the Z51 is not quicker than the base model, why offer it as an option, and why would people pay more for that option if they are not going to see any better performance over the base non Z51 model?

Daniel White

I would like to see more track data before drawing conclusions. 1/4 ET normally would be in the form of 12.X and not simply "12 seconds". Trap speed is better than the GS and low 12's sounds about right. Preliminary numbers look impressive so far.

JoesC5

Exactly the reason I don't put much faith in the rags. They take a press release and then rewrite it to make it sound as if they know something, when they don't, and end up with spreading a bunch of BS that some people take as gospel.

JoesC5

FAIL. There are no C7 Z06/ZR1 variants, just the base model and the optional Z51 model, thus the base model C7 is a non Z51 equipped model, not a non Z06/ZR1 model.

Matt26

Quicker on a drag strip is what he means.

Z51 is a track package, guys that just want to go straight would be better served with a lighter weight non-Z51.

Around a track, the Z51 additions will make it quicker.

Davy_Baby9

In the link it states 12.0 @ 119.

Daekwan06

Bingo.

The Z51 package is designed for extra performance on a road course (road course = corners). On a road course handling & braking are as if, if not more, important than straightline acceleration & top speed. That is the reason for the closer gear ratio, stiffer suspension, eLSD, extra cooling and bigger brake rotor upgrade in the Z51 package.

The Z51 package was not designed to make the car quicker/faster in a straight line acceleration race or test.

Rapid Fred

I would love to see a head-to head with a 2013 Z06, same day, drivers and track, as delivered from BG. The C7 seems awfully close, probably very hard to distinguish in everyday driving, and all that for $56K (meaning VERY affordable in 8 years when I get my beautifully maintained 2014 from one of you "early adopters.") Plus, you get the targa and all the other upgrades (particularly the seats.)

There has a lot of trash talk on both sides in this section; pretty much unsubstantiated by any actual performance data. Seems to me it will now boil down to individual interpretations of what "significantly better" is when comparing the Z51 C7 to the C6 Z06. I think the marginal (to my ability to distinguish, and I bet many others) Z06 advantage will be much more important to the track-oriented guys, as would be expected...and the Z51 C7 will be an amazing track performer in its own right.

LT1_E85_Corvette

If this car traps 119mph, that screams 11's all day long with the right driver. I'm VERY impressed with what GM brought to the table, and it's much closer to Z06 performance than I thought, and spanks the GS harder than I expected as well

BlueOx

I have to agree with Joe on this one. The times are not for a 'standard' or 'base' Stingray. They are for the new C7 Z51 'model', with a significant increase in price. Maybe they should do it all over again without the Z51 equipment and see what they get.

Don't get me wrong, I think these times are great and great value for the money but just don't call them 'standard' Stingray times.

Rapid Fred

C'mon, Joe (and Ox), stop nitpicking. If you put optional wheels, or other options, on a BASE model car, it is still the BASE model. Z51 is an option (and pretty reasonable, at that), NOT a different model.

Here go the semantics again. How close will the $56K Z51 C7 have to perform vs. your ~$75K(?) Z06 for you to say "nearly identical" or "comparable?" The same? A tenth here and there? Or, said another way, once all the testing and comparisons are complete, what adjective will you use to describe the Z06's performance advantage, which I am willing to go on the record right now and describe as "small?"

Mike Mercury

if it were indeed 12.0x... they would of listed it that way.

Still though...

[in the voice of Darth Vader] Imperssive ! [/Vader]

DJD

The best way for everybody who says that the z51 can't possibly be able to hit 12.0 is by buying the friggin car and taking it to the track. Then do the most important thing....practice, practice, practice. I personally don't care how fast it is in the 1/4 mile, how many times on a daily basis are you going to be drag racing? Plus the other thing to think about.....will be the top HP for the base? Or will GM offer a faster model like they did in 08? If so then an extra 30 ponies would be worth waiting for. What I like is the braking capabilities, with that kind of torque curve I know those brakes will be handy. One last thing to consider....those blind spots are HORRENDOUS!!!!! Will GM be putting in blind spot indicators when switching lanes?

sajonf

You seem to be under the impression that the Z51 is a separate model, when in fact it is simply a base model C7 with the Z51 option. Better get your Z51 badges on order.

B-Myster

Exactly. That said, I predict a deja vu thread coming once someone posts a picture of their C7 (optioned with Z51 package) with a Z51 emblem stuck somewhere on the fender.