C7 General Discussion General C7 Corvette Discussion not covered in Tech
Sponsored by:
Sponsored by:

Official - 2014 Corvette Stingray Cranks Out 460 Horsepower

Thread Tools
 
Search this Thread
 
Old 05-28-2013, 06:18 PM
  #201  
_Will_
Team Owner
 
_Will_'s Avatar
 
Member Since: Mar 2005
Location: Somewhere between mild insanity and complete psychosis
Posts: 31,541
Received 35 Likes on 17 Posts

Default

Originally Posted by ZL-1
...the C7 has excess torque at low rpm's. ....This was a big problem on LS7 corvettes also

WHAT.

Now people are complaining about the torque and area under the curve?

Old 05-28-2013, 06:20 PM
  #202  
Corvettinator
Drifting
 
Corvettinator's Avatar
 
Member Since: Jun 2011
Location: Kalifornia
Posts: 1,606
Received 34 Likes on 20 Posts

Default

Originally Posted by Sin City
I'm really in shock what people here care about when they talk about this new car, the first really new edition in so many years.

First priority: Tail lights

Second priority: How much HP it will have above 450.

Amazing. This is what is important?
Yeah, what a sports car looks like and its performance are irrelevant.

Utterly useless numbers without exact weight, and IMO 455 is weak considering that the current Mustang Boss 302 has 444HP, and it is like $10K less.

And for about $55K, the price of the C7 vert, one can get a 662HP GT500 with roughly the performance of a C6 Z06, whose drivers I doubt will be very impressed with your HP-to-liter ratio or your gas mileage.
Old 05-28-2013, 06:22 PM
  #203  
Kappa
Melting Slicks
 
Kappa's Avatar
 
Member Since: Aug 2005
Posts: 2,826
Received 530 Likes on 234 Posts

Default

Originally Posted by sam90lx
Yeah and 600+ HP.
What does that matter? They still have to compromise as does Porsche with the new 911 using stop start and using a coasting function with PDK trans to increase FE.
Old 05-28-2013, 06:26 PM
  #204  
LouB57
Racer
 
LouB57's Avatar
 
Member Since: May 2013
Location: South Windsor Connecticut
Posts: 258
Likes: 0
Received 1 Like on 1 Post
Default

So............. Go buy a Mustang
Old 05-28-2013, 06:26 PM
  #205  
Kappa
Melting Slicks
 
Kappa's Avatar
 
Member Since: Aug 2005
Posts: 2,826
Received 530 Likes on 234 Posts

Default

Originally Posted by Corvettinator
Yeah, what a sports car looks like and its performance are irrelevant.

Utterly useless numbers without exact weight, and IMO 455 is weak considering that the current Mustang Boss 302 has 444HP, and it is like $10K less.

And for about $55K, the price of the C7 vert, one can get a 662HP GT500 with roughly the performance of a C6 Z06, whose drivers I doubt will be very impressed with your HP-to-liter ratio or your gas mileage.
The GT500 is a Z06 competitor in a straight line only. In almost everything except for backseat space, the C7 will have the advantage. The C7 Z51 should run circles around it on any track.

And if you can find a '13 GT500 vert for 55K you should buy it. The ones Ive seen at the dealers are 70K+.
Old 05-28-2013, 06:28 PM
  #206  
sam90lx
Le Mans Master
 
sam90lx's Avatar
 
Member Since: May 2010
Location: Ventura CA
Posts: 7,775
Received 172 Likes on 138 Posts

Default

Originally Posted by Chicago1
Has Haltech stepped in yet or did I miss it?
Think he said it was a fail.
Old 05-28-2013, 06:28 PM
  #207  
r1owner
Racer
 
r1owner's Avatar
 
Member Since: Nov 2005
Location: STL
Posts: 405
Received 2 Likes on 2 Posts

Default

Originally Posted by Corvettinator
Yeah, what a sports car looks like and its performance are irrelevant.

Utterly useless numbers without exact weight, and IMO 455 is weak considering that the current Mustang Boss 302 has 444HP, and it is like $10K less.

And for about $55K, the price of the C7 vert, one can get a 662HP GT500 with roughly the performance of a C6 Z06, whose drivers I doubt will be very impressed with your HP-to-liter ratio or your gas mileage.
Uh... performance in a straight line maybe. Sorry, I don't live my life 1/4 mile at a time. In ANY type of handling exercise, the GT500 will be left behind like the barge that it is.
Old 05-28-2013, 06:29 PM
  #208  
Bill17601
AIR FORCE VETERAN
Support Corvetteforum!
 
Bill17601's Avatar
 
Member Since: Nov 2009
Location: Pennsylvania
Posts: 6,223
Received 439 Likes on 196 Posts

Default

Originally Posted by Corvettinator
Yeah, what a sports car looks like and its performance are irrelevant.

Utterly useless numbers without exact weight, and IMO 455 is weak considering that the current Mustang Boss 302 has 444HP, and it is like $10K less.

And for about $55K, the price of the C7 vert, one can get a 662HP GT500 with roughly the performance of a C6 Z06, whose drivers I doubt will be very impressed with your HP-to-liter ratio or your gas mileage.

You can not compare a Mustang to a Corvette in a pricing war. Not only does the Mustang have less horsepower Boss but it lacks an independent suspension, the lower center of gravity and quality of materials.
You can not buy a "Sports Car" with more power and content then a Corvette any where near $55,000. The same old story you get what you pay for. $80,000 for 500 HP and $115,000 for over 600 HP. List to list. In Corvette.
If you want more horsower go pay for it and stop whining about not getting it on a base car...
Old 05-28-2013, 06:30 PM
  #209  
sam90lx
Le Mans Master
 
sam90lx's Avatar
 
Member Since: May 2010
Location: Ventura CA
Posts: 7,775
Received 172 Likes on 138 Posts

Default

Originally Posted by Kappa
What does that matter? They still have to compromise as does Porsche with the new 911 using stop start and using a coasting function with PDK trans to increase FE.
What does that matter?? Only a difference of about 145 hp!
Old 05-28-2013, 06:32 PM
  #210  
Dr. Evil
Le Mans Master
 
Dr. Evil's Avatar
 
Member Since: Apr 2000
Location: DrunkDefender
Posts: 5,589
Likes: 0
Received 0 Likes on 0 Posts
CI 1-2-3-4-5-6-7-8 Veteran
CI-IV AutoX Champ
CI-IV Burnout Champ
St. Jude Donor '07-'10

Default

The GT 500 is a bit of a 1 trick pony. A 1LE Camaro SS for less than $40k will equal it/beat it on a consistent basis on a road course.
Old 05-28-2013, 06:34 PM
  #211  
OHV4LIFE
Racer
 
OHV4LIFE's Avatar
 
Member Since: Jan 2013
Posts: 286
Likes: 0
Received 0 Likes on 0 Posts
Default

Originally Posted by DRLC5
I guess, but they also have over 600hp to boot..lol..
And a $300K+ price tag
And $15K service
Old 05-28-2013, 06:41 PM
  #212  
DRLC5
Le Mans Master
 
DRLC5's Avatar
 
Member Since: Nov 2004
Location: Cape Coral FL
Posts: 5,815
Received 340 Likes on 226 Posts

Default

Originally Posted by jschindler
The hp of the BASE CTS is going up (drum roll please) THREE hp.

If you are going to compare rumors of the next CTS V then you need to start a rumor as to what the next ZR-1 will have.
The new CTS that I see has 270hp 4clybase then 330hp 6cly and 420hp twin turbo 6 cyl vs current 318hp... As far as Rumors lmfao...
Old 05-28-2013, 06:42 PM
  #213  
LouB57
Racer
 
LouB57's Avatar
 
Member Since: May 2013
Location: South Windsor Connecticut
Posts: 258
Likes: 0
Received 1 Like on 1 Post
Default

Originally Posted by Dr. Evil
The GT 500 is a bit of a 1 trick pony. A 1LE Camaro SS for less than $40k will equal it/beat it on a consistent basis on a road course.
And if anyone really insists on comparing a Pony Car to a Vette, at least pick a Camaro ZL1, or z28, when it is available.

In every test I have seen, it has been picked overall against the Mustang in almost every category, despite spotting it 100HP. a much better track car , and overall performer.

Whoever referred to the Stang as a 1 trick Pony was spot on..
Old 05-28-2013, 06:45 PM
  #214  
drummer5679
Drifting
 
drummer5679's Avatar
 
Member Since: Sep 2011
Location: Carrollton TX
Posts: 1,267
Likes: 0
Received 0 Likes on 0 Posts
Default

may sound weird but the corvette is starting to give me the barbie doll effect vibe with her 10 inch waist, DD's, perfect blonde hair and skin when in reality its physically impossible for a woman to look like that.

everyone whining its a failure if it doesnt have porsche interior and a perfect beautiful rear end putting out 500hp all for less $ than the current model out right now.

The amount of whining from some people on this site is almost unbelievable considering that (I think) most of us here are grown men/women.
Old 05-28-2013, 06:47 PM
  #215  
Achmed
Drifting
 
Achmed's Avatar
 
Member Since: Dec 2012
Posts: 1,684
Received 82 Likes on 49 Posts
Default

Originally Posted by Bill17601
You can not compare a Mustang to a Corvette in a pricing war. Not only does the Mustang have less horsepower Boss but it lacks an independent suspension, the lower center of gravity and quality of materials.
You can not buy a "Sports Car" with more power and content then a Corvette any where near $55,000. The same old story you get what you pay for. $80,000 for 500 HP and $115,000 for over 600 HP. List to list. In Corvette.
If you want more horsower go pay for it and stop whining about not getting it on a base car...
Plus a part of the Corvette's price is towards the fact that it's an exotic looking 2 seater, otherwise Chevy would charge almost the same amount for the Corvette as the Camaro. Same reason why the Ford GT costs much more than the Mustang.

These guys compare the Mustang to the Corvette in terms of power and price, but then why not compare the Camaro to the Corvette as well? Because it's not a valid comparison.
Old 05-28-2013, 06:48 PM
  #216  
Corvettinator
Drifting
 
Corvettinator's Avatar
 
Member Since: Jun 2011
Location: Kalifornia
Posts: 1,606
Received 34 Likes on 20 Posts

Default

Originally Posted by Bill17601
You can not compare a Mustang to a Corvette in a pricing war. Not only does the Mustang have less horsepower Boss but it lacks an independent suspension, the lower center of gravity and quality of materials.
You can not buy a "Sports Car" with more power and content then a Corvette any where near $55,000. The same old story you get what you pay for. $80,000 for 500 HP and $115,000 for over 600 HP. List to list. In Corvette.
If you want more horsower go pay for it and stop whining about not getting it on a base car...
Really, and where can I buy one of these higher horsepower C7's?

LOL at all of you fanboys who don't even own the C7 yet, comparing the GT500's performance around a track. Totally beside my point. This thread is about horsepower, not track times. Ford is doing a hell of a lot better than GM financially, yet they seem to be able to put out 600HP cars for the price of a base Corvette.

And keep in mind the Mustang is due for a major refresh, and I doubt indie suspension will add $10K to the price.

And the '13 GT500 pulled a 1:38 at Laguna Seca @ 3800lbs, so I wouldn't scoff too much at its tracking until we see C7 lap times.
Old 05-28-2013, 06:51 PM
  #217  
Kappa
Melting Slicks
 
Kappa's Avatar
 
Member Since: Aug 2005
Posts: 2,826
Received 530 Likes on 234 Posts

Default

Originally Posted by Tullius
And a $300K+ price tag
And $15K service
Exactly. Some people think these cars exist in a vacuum where performance is the only thing that matters regardless of price, regulations, current environment pressures but they end up looking like trolls and idiots.

Last edited by Kappa; 05-28-2013 at 06:54 PM.

Get notified of new replies

To Official - 2014 Corvette Stingray Cranks Out 460 Horsepower

Old 05-28-2013, 06:54 PM
  #218  
skank
Melting Slicks
 
skank's Avatar
 
Member Since: Dec 2007
Location: Carmel CA
Posts: 2,798
Received 1,152 Likes on 514 Posts

Default

Another interesting comparison is C7 LT1 vs Porsche 911S-991
911S-991 111 ft/lbs Torque at 1500 RPM
C7 Z51 350 ft/lbs Torque at 1500 RPM

911S-991 325 ft/lbs Max Torque
C7 Z51 465 ft/lbs Max Torque




2012 Porsche 911 Carrera S Coupé (991) : Power & Torque Curves (U.S. Specs)

Last edited by skank; 05-28-2013 at 06:56 PM.
Old 05-28-2013, 06:54 PM
  #219  
WaxWeekly
Burning Brakes
 
WaxWeekly's Avatar
 
Member Since: May 2006
Location: Yorba Linda CA
Posts: 823
Received 76 Likes on 45 Posts

Default

I love it how most people seem to think packaging, weight, horsepower and torque are the only specs involved in creating a motor. Granted, they're important to the Corvette, but there's simply more involved.

Unfortunately, emissions, MPG and other factors are part of the equation as well. I have no doubt that if we can get a list of ALL of the specifications, there would be a huge difference between the LS3 and LT1. Unfortunately, most of the readers here don't care about the rest of the specs, but the engineers who made the motor sure care...
Old 05-28-2013, 06:54 PM
  #220  
OJCrush08
Burning Brakes
 
OJCrush08's Avatar
 
Member Since: Mar 2010
Location: Manassas VA
Posts: 839
Likes: 0
Received 0 Likes on 0 Posts
Default

Apologies if I missed it, but has the base and Z51 optioned weights been announced?


Quick Reply: Official - 2014 Corvette Stingray Cranks Out 460 Horsepower



All times are GMT -4. The time now is 02:15 AM.