JoesC5

Possibly the same reason our federal government releases unfavorable news, that it wants to go unnoticed, on Fridays at closing time, hoping no one will notice.

TTRotary

I may be way off but.....I believe the inference may be that JerriVette is pulling stuff out of his keester.

LT1_E85_Corvette

because they are amazing...

No seriously though, they better be if they keep making me wait

Hemi Dave

Thanks for all the info RC........ It's appreciated

JoesC5

Just pointing out that JerriVette posted bad info about the LT1 and plenty of the slurpers were on my case when I posted facts, directly from GM, that proved him wrong, and now GM backs up what I said(and what they had been saying all along), at the bash.

jimmyb

I believe the man wants VINDICATION.

Jimmy

sam90lx

At the Sonic.

RC000E

All the various engineers have been pretty clear that marketing and the higher ups arent playing games and that info will be released in a planned timeframe by the marketing dept. if they even think they cant say it...they dont

No prob. I been interrogating like crazy...lol.

travisnd

I wish they used VIR Full course for the comparison... that's what nearly everyone races on and the majority of trackdays are run on. Mazdadrivers used to run the Grand Course configuration, but it's been a few years and NOBODY races the grand course configuration.

DREAMERAK

What about your posts that said 450 hp is going to be it for the Stingray? Or as you were so fond of saying "only a 14hp increase"

Chicago1

When you get your *** handed to at a light or drag you gonna brag how fast it goes around a track? Lol no like others I want to know hp numbers 1/4 0 to 60 etc.

Kappa

Well.......


It's something.

jimmyb

If by "they" you're speaking of Car and Driver, I imagine they still run the Grand Course because all the Lightning Lap tests have been run there, and so the previous years of lap times have some meaning and some value for comparison to current lap times.

Jimmy

michaelinmech

I may be way off but.....I believe the inference may be that JerriVette is pulling stuff out of his keester.

I believe the man wants VINDICATION.



OK-now I understand - wasn't aware of the back story. Just trying to follow along . . . . .

NSC5

RC,

Thanks for sharing and for posting the information so clearly and concisely! One of the rare "signals rising above the noise" here on the C7 forum.

LT1_E85_Corvette

I'm guessing they are having issues selling the last C6's.... They will wait as long as it takes to help move the current Gen... Maybe they should have said "440hp Estimated"

HurricaneRN

When you get your *** handed to at a light or drag you gonna brag how fast it goes 0 to 60?

travisnd

I don't street race... doing that in the Commonwealth can get your car impounded and confiscated. I could use the same logic for some kid's turbo Civic vs. a Ferrari. I'd rather have the Ferrari.

I mean C&D and GM... I understand it, but they should have used the full course for the lightning lap at the outset. It'd be a far more relevant comparison to anyone who's run timed laps at VIR.

JoesC5

I said that GM said the estimated horsepower was 450. I also said that looking at the dyno graph GM published in 240C12.pdf, that at 6000 RPM(point at which the LT1's horsepower starts to drop off) the LT1 has approximately 20 lb-ft of torque more then the LS3 at that same RPM. Using the standard formula for converting torque to horsepower, that equates to a 23 HP increase above the LS3's 430, which would make the LT1 453 Horsepower. That's what I said. I used info supplied by GM, not some magical wishful thinking.

JerriVette never posted any official GM dyno graphs that said different. I also quoted the two main LT1 powertrain engineers(Jordan Lee and John Rydzewski) on what they said regarding the LT1's RPM and Jerrivette never posted any quotes from a single GM engineer that proved those two GM engineers were wrong.

He just kept foaming at the mouth about some BS.

speedlink