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Old 04-26-2013, 05:38 PM
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Originally Posted by Tool Hoarder
IMO that's a threshold the Corvette should not cross. Shoot... 3400lbs more like it. That's just getting too heavy.
I don't see a way it won't pass 3,500lbs. LS3 to LS9 was 90lbs in the engine alone, then there is the heat xchanger, dry sump, more coooling, bigger brakes, tires, wheels, stronger bits.

Thresholds are imaginary however, just increase it!
Old 04-26-2013, 05:50 PM
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Wow, 3300lbs... and that is for the non-Z51?
Old 04-26-2013, 06:01 PM
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Originally Posted by Jawnathin
Wow, 3300lbs... and that is for the non-Z51?
That is how I read it.
Old 04-26-2013, 06:04 PM
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Was famed top secret GM engineer "Big Gunnzz" at the event? You know, he's the one that was all over LS1tech leaking "top secret" engine specs, and how it would be well north of 500hp with E85?

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Originally Posted by RC000E
The HUD looks amazing!

Thanks!
Old 04-26-2013, 06:13 PM
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Originally Posted by Jawnathin
AWD doesn't belong in a Corvette. If you want an AWD car, go buy something else.

Its the same as asking why don't they make a steak that tastes like spaghetti. If you really want spaghetti, go buy spaghetti. Leave the steak alone.
I like the analogy.
Old 04-26-2013, 06:17 PM
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Originally Posted by Jawnathin
Wow, 3300lbs... and that is for the non-Z51?
Very disappointing that they are using all the high end expensive light weight material and still coming in heavier.

Remember the original rumors of 10% lighter? That would have been awesome!

Hope this changes on the Z06/ZR1 models.
Old 04-26-2013, 06:23 PM
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have we gotten any official mileage info yet?
Old 04-26-2013, 06:25 PM
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Originally Posted by RC000E
Some details of note:

AFM is easily deactivated. It only works when you are in selected eco mode. When the auto is in manual mode it doesnt work either. Afm only activates at very low throttle and is hardly noticeable

Bose set a benchmark with this car when equipped with 10spkr system (add opt sub)

Stiffness with roof OFF still exceeds c6z

RC,

One question on this. If you're in a mode other than Eco, say Sport, and you shut the car off. When you re-start the car, does it default to Eco, or does it stay in Sport (or the other modes if they were one you selected)?

Thanks for all the info.

We all owe you a cold one.
Old 04-26-2013, 06:26 PM
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Originally Posted by skank
If we assume the hp will be 480 like some here are projecting that would give a 6.87 power to weight ratio. 3298 divided by 480 =6.87. The C6 ZO6 is 3175 divided by 505=6.29. No wonder Mero is saying this will beat the old times at VIR by 4 to 5 seconds. New technologies with better front to rear weight distribution. It all adds up !!!!!
One could also assume that the horsepower is 450(which is the number GM is estimating, at this point in time) and the Z51's weight is 3348(heavier brakes, wheels, dry sump etc.). That would make the power to weight ratio 7.44.

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Old 04-26-2013, 06:32 PM
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Originally Posted by Hirohawa
Very disappointing that they are using all the high end expensive light weight material and still coming in heavier.

Remember the original rumors of 10% lighter? That would have been awesome!

Hope this changes on the Z06/ZR1 models.
Who said 10% lighter? You bought into that? Or maybe you were the one making up and spreading the BS.
Old 04-26-2013, 06:38 PM
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RC;

By chance is there an accessory display? I am curious as to what the Optional Stingray sill plate looks like... ie painted / polished / ???? Picture would be awesome if available.

THANKS!!!!!
Old 04-26-2013, 06:42 PM
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Originally Posted by BlueOx
Who said 10% lighter? You bought into that? Or maybe you were the one making up and spreading the BS.

I lost 8 lbs which is not 10%. However I did make up the extra weight of the iron exhaust manifolds. I am so proud...
Old 04-26-2013, 06:51 PM
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Originally Posted by BlueOx
Who said 10% lighter? You bought into that? Or maybe you were the one making up and spreading the BS.
Last fall, people were speculating the weight would be around 3000 pounds(including me). That's around 5.6% lighter, but nowhere near 10% which would be 2887 pounds.

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Old 04-26-2013, 07:11 PM
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Originally Posted by BlueOx
Who said 10% lighter? You bought into that? Or maybe you were the one making up and spreading the BS.
So rumors aside BlueHair - are you considering the weight gain a win?

I'm curious how even you will market, uh I mean spin this as a positive.

Hint - for sports cars weight is bad.
Old 04-26-2013, 07:12 PM
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Originally Posted by OnPoint
RC,

One question on this. If you're in a mode other than Eco, say Sport, and you shut the car off. When you re-start the car, does it default to Eco, or does it stay in Sport (or the other modes if they were one you selected)?

Thanks for all the info.

We all owe you a cold one.
This has been asked, but I need to be clear. There are several "modes"...some that stay on, some that dont.

Let me be 100% and get back to you tomorrow before I mispeak.

Originally Posted by Jawnathin
Wow, 3300lbs... and that is for the non-Z51?
Yep...i'm fairly certain that put z51 under 3400.

Z06 will use some additional methods to shave weight, while adding...3500 won't happen.

Originally Posted by AirBusPilot
Was famed top secret GM engineer "Big Gunnzz" at the event? You know, he's the one that was all over LS1tech leaking "top secret" engine specs, and how it would be well north of 500hp with E85?

lol
Old Big Gunz didnt make it...lol

Originally Posted by Hirohawa
Very disappointing that they are using all the high end expensive light weight material and still coming in heavier.

Remember the original rumors of 10% lighter? That would have been awesome!

Hope this changes on the Z06/ZR1 models.
Yep...standard equip carbon roof and hood on every vette. Cant say they didnt do everything possible to keep weight down.

Originally Posted by max pl
have we gotten any official mileage info yet?
Gas mileage...no

Originally Posted by tome
RC;

By chance is there an accessory display? I am curious as to what the Optional Stingray sill plate looks like... ie painted / polished / ???? Picture would be awesome if available.

THANKS!!!!!
There is a display with things added daily....i'll see what I can do.
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Originally Posted by Hirohawa
So rumors aside BlueHair - are you considering the weight gain a win?

I'm curious how even you will market, uh I mean spin this as a positive.

Hint - for sports cars weight is bad.
Hint...you wouldn't know the difference.
Hint...you thinking it would be 10% lighter means you are an idiot.

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Old 04-26-2013, 07:18 PM
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Originally Posted by Hirohawa
So rumors aside BlueHair - are you considering the weight gain a win?

I'm curious how even you will market, uh I mean spin this as a positive.

Hint - for sports cars weight is bad.
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Originally Posted by RC000E
This has been asked, but I need to be clear. There are several "modes"...some that stay on, some that dont.

Let me be 100% and get back to you tomorrow before I mispeak.



Yep...i'm fairly certain that put z51 under 3400.

Z06 will use some additional methods to shave weight, while adding...3500 won't happen.



Old Big Gunz didnt make it...lol



Yep...standard equip carbon roof and hood on every vette. Cant say they didnt do everything possible to keep weight down.



Gas mileage...no



There is a display with things added daily....i'll see what I can do.
Say What! The Z06 at 3500 lbs??
Old 04-26-2013, 07:22 PM
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Wont exceed 3500 i meant...no way. I see z06 in the 3400's...maybe less if they pull somethin crazy off.

You have to consider that z51 is near a c6z in that it has sump system, cooling systems and aero parts. So, the mass of c6z06's already exists on c7z51 nearly. Only weight to be added on z06 would be bigger brakes, bigger wheels/tires and anything else under the hood. You could see a carbon hatch and body though, lighter seats, you name it.

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