why would GM Hold Back On Real HP Rating and Weight?
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why would GM Hold Back On Real HP Rating and Weight?
They have running prototypes they have dynos so they know the real HP. Of course they know what the weight is as well. So whats the big deal? Im sure the 6.2 with direct injection will do at least 480 HP how could it not. I would think they would welcome all the extra buzz 480 HP would bring to the table.
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New SS, new z28, new LT1 engine. It's all in timing to not steal the thunder from those and to keep momentum going. We will probably know in the next 30 days now that the C7 is the only thing left to reveal.
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And the still have a few thousand new C6's left to sell on dealers lots. My gut feeling is this is why price info has nt been released. If it is close to the same MSRP as the C6 but has close to 500 HP it would make selling C6's real hard.
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IMHO - they may well be monitoring the inventory level of remaining C6's in determining the timing for the release of the info. The less remaining inventory, the better to release info . . . because . .
If, optimistically, the C7 numbers, HP, Weight and Price are all 'attractive', that will definitely impact the number of potential buyer who choose to wait for a C7 rather then buy a C6 from existing inventory now
In another CF posting, a member who attended NY reports Tadge said the info is only 2 to 4 weeks away at this point
If, optimistically, the C7 numbers, HP, Weight and Price are all 'attractive', that will definitely impact the number of potential buyer who choose to wait for a C7 rather then buy a C6 from existing inventory now
In another CF posting, a member who attended NY reports Tadge said the info is only 2 to 4 weeks away at this point
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IMHO - they may well be monitoring the inventory level of remaining C6's in determining the timing for the release of the info. The less remaining inventory, the better to release info . . . because . .
If, optimistically, the C7 numbers, HP, Weight and Price are all 'attractive', that will definitely impact the number of potential buyer who choose to wait for a C7 rather then buy a C6 from existing inventory now
In another CF posting, a member who attended NY reports Tadge said the info is only 2 to 4 weeks away at this point
If, optimistically, the C7 numbers, HP, Weight and Price are all 'attractive', that will definitely impact the number of potential buyer who choose to wait for a C7 rather then buy a C6 from existing inventory now
In another CF posting, a member who attended NY reports Tadge said the info is only 2 to 4 weeks away at this point
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Hope it is in 2-4 weeks. Be nice to get that out there in the open.
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C7 value cannot be quantified, it is of whimsical quality, faith and belief will make it fly, literally Tadge wouldn't be declaring C6 only to eat his own words, would he? Maybe he would, LMAO.
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It needs to be SAE certified from a production car. Not in production yet. The weight I'm sure they are very close on. IMO they are still tweaking a few things. We will get the weight when they have finalized the car to go to production. We are very close. As was said earlier, HP and maybe weight to be coming at the bash in April. We'll see.
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while I don't like this "delayed process of data" I do think they don't quite have the numbers together yet. which is kind of weird. I don't think the numbers have to come off the production line, per se, but they do have to come off what will be an actual production car. and that probably still hasn't been finalized or built. or if it has, it's not ready for prime time. thus, no numbers.
plus there's the NCM bash, about 3+ weeks away where a lot of Corvette-faithfuls will gather. and later on, in June, bloomington gold. maybe those are the best places to announce the final figures, maybe even some "future"
Corvette models to come---someone is thinking that thought, I'm sure.
plus there's the NCM bash, about 3+ weeks away where a lot of Corvette-faithfuls will gather. and later on, in June, bloomington gold. maybe those are the best places to announce the final figures, maybe even some "future"
Corvette models to come---someone is thinking that thought, I'm sure.
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last I heard they will have numbers in April for price etc....but as stated many times the cars you are seeing in public are unfinished display cars ...
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When you are selling a product you try and dominate the discussion with your product's best features, and try to sidestep your product's perceived(real or not) short comings.
GM knows the weight of the C7, down to the ounce. They have been talking about the 99 pound lighter weight of the frame and the 37 pound lighter body panels. They don't want to discuss the total weight, as it's no less then the "obsolete" C6. They know how much more the LT1 weighs over the LS3. They know how much more the steel torque tube weighs over the aluminum torque tube. They know how much more the 7 speed transmission weighs over the 6 speed transmission. They know how much more the video game dash weighs over the C6's dash. They know the total weight of the C7. They just don't want to discuss it.
Same goes for the horsepower. GM knows the actual horsepower/torque of the LT1. GM powertrain has a bunch of dyno cells and GM has people that know how to dyno test an engine. They want to discus the positive features of the LT1 such as the VVT that gives greater torque under 4000 RPM, being the same as the "obsolete" LS7. They want to discus the fuel saving AFM feature. They want to discus the fuel saving Direct Injection feature. They don't want to discuss the fact that the LT1 only has 14 horsepower more then the LS3.
It's not exactly earth shattering news that the new C7 isn't any lighter than the "obsolete" outgoing C6, or that it's horsepower is only 3% greater than the "obsolete" outgoing C6. GM wants to downplay that info until the very last minute, hoping it doesn't distract from the 6 months of talking about all the C7's positives.
GM knows the weight of the C7, down to the ounce. They have been talking about the 99 pound lighter weight of the frame and the 37 pound lighter body panels. They don't want to discuss the total weight, as it's no less then the "obsolete" C6. They know how much more the LT1 weighs over the LS3. They know how much more the steel torque tube weighs over the aluminum torque tube. They know how much more the 7 speed transmission weighs over the 6 speed transmission. They know how much more the video game dash weighs over the C6's dash. They know the total weight of the C7. They just don't want to discuss it.
Same goes for the horsepower. GM knows the actual horsepower/torque of the LT1. GM powertrain has a bunch of dyno cells and GM has people that know how to dyno test an engine. They want to discus the positive features of the LT1 such as the VVT that gives greater torque under 4000 RPM, being the same as the "obsolete" LS7. They want to discus the fuel saving AFM feature. They want to discus the fuel saving Direct Injection feature. They don't want to discuss the fact that the LT1 only has 14 horsepower more then the LS3.
It's not exactly earth shattering news that the new C7 isn't any lighter than the "obsolete" outgoing C6, or that it's horsepower is only 3% greater than the "obsolete" outgoing C6. GM wants to downplay that info until the very last minute, hoping it doesn't distract from the 6 months of talking about all the C7's positives.
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