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Why does the new 2014 Z28 get factory Tri-Y headers and not the C7?

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Old 03-30-2013, 05:30 PM
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So what you're saying is that there's nothing you like about the C7. This is what I'm getting from you.
Old 03-30-2013, 05:35 PM
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Yeah, you're not so good at this meme/image thing. You better leave that to me.

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Yeah, you're not so good at this meme/image thing. You better leave that to me.

Old 03-30-2013, 06:06 PM
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You really want to keep this up? LOL (Threads getting locked or we're getting punted soon. I feel it.)

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And your point being??? They had to design new manifolds from scratch for the LT1 anyway....the Tri-Y is simply not an all-out racing manifold design, it broadens the torque and HP curve across the board (a very broad band). For my two cents, this was likely an opportunity for another 10 HP/10 TQ over the current log design so why not!
I doubt it is 10 hp if any on the LT1. Too many variables to make big generalizations about horsepower and broadening torque curves without actual dyno testing. It's not like they are long tube headers where they are tuned. On the Camaro, they have to route the manifold outlet past the front crossmember to the rear of the engine. The Camaro LS3 manifolds are logs. The Camaro LS7 got an upgrade to the logs. No such problem with the Corvette. The LT1 manifolds drop straight down, and look pretty clean and free flow to me.

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You really want to keep this up? LOL (Threads getting locked or we're getting punted soon. I feel it.)

Lol, it's more than a feeling. Mod left a direct message in the last thread that had to be cleaned up.
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Originally Posted by JMB
I must admit that I can't decide whether I am more shocked at the 2014 Z28 LS7 being offered with a factory Tri-Y header or the fact that the C7 does not have them first!
What is more shocking that LS7 did not become the standard engine on base C7, this is what should have happened.
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Originally Posted by petermj
What is more shocking that LS7 did not become the standard engine on base C7, this is what should have happened.
Now you are just trolling for effect…
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Now you are just trolling for effect…
How is this trolling? To say that there was a motor GM had that should be used instead of LT1 is trolling? Wow
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Originally Posted by petermj
What is more shocking that LS7 did not become the standard engine on base C7, this is what should have happened.
It's nice to dream. The LS7, besides being expensive to build (titanium rods, CNC ported heads, etc.), wouldn't get nearly the fuel economy of the LT1.

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While this thread is still open I'll post a little exhaust manifold trivia:
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Cast iron manifolds are a LT1 tradition. Every LT1 has had them, 70-72, 92-96*, and now 2014.

The much improved 300hp 1992 LT1 with cast iron manifolds replaced the 250hp 1991 L98 which had tubular manifolds. Is history repeating itself?

We don't like the weight of cast iron, but a casting does allow development of optimum shapes to enhance flow whereas with tubes you're restricted to a constant diameter or a step to a different size tube.

For the all-purpose 2014 Stingray, cast should do just fine. A little over 9 months from now we'll be checking out the manifolds on the REAL performance model's LT4 coming for 2015.


*including the 96 LT4



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What manifolds does the LS3 have?
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Originally Posted by OnPoint
What manifolds does the LS3 have?
cast iron
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Thanks, I stand corrected on the LS. I'll go back and correct that.
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Originally Posted by petermj
What is more shocking that LS7 did not become the standard engine on base C7, this is what should have happened.
Yeah. How stupid. And they didn't put the LS6 in the 2005 C6. That was dumb too. After all, the LS6 made more power. And it was really dumb that the LT5 didn't become the standard engine in the 1996 Corvettes.

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How is this trolling? To say that there was a motor GM had that should be used instead of LT1 is trolling? Wow
Because you know very little about the LT1, which makes me wonder why you say that GM should have used the top N/A motor they had in a previous generation Corvette instead of a far more efficient (and likely better, more durable) engine.

For now on, I'm just going to comment about how your ignorance never ceases to amaze me each time I reply to something you say. It seems fitting and I still have YET to see you post anything positive about GM or the C7. So many opinionated posts in a forum you obviously don't belong in since you obviously hate every last thing about the C7 and will probably never buy one.

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Originally Posted by sam90lx
I just saw a video of the Z-28 on a track....this thing is stupid bad.
Oh wow there's a video of it on the track out there now too?
I'd found the one showing the exhaust sound/revving but none of it moving yet.
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With the short runners and with a early merge the exhaust manifold for the LT1 appears very torque minded. Therefore, and in my opinion for the purpose the LT1 is to serve, its' pipes are well thought out.

On the other hand the LS7 pipes are designed for higher RPM range and maximum heat extraction.

With its additional torque already present, and the high revving horsepower characteristics of the LS7, along with its critical need to get heat away from the exhaust valves, it's pipes seem well planned.
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Originally Posted by petermj
What is more shocking that LS7 did not become the standard engine on base C7, this is what should have happened.
Originally Posted by Boil
Now you are just trolling for effect…
Originally Posted by petermj
How is this trolling? To say that there was a motor GM had that should be used instead of LT1 is trolling? Wow
Originally Posted by Michael A
It's nice to dream. The LS7, besides being expensive to build (titanium rods, CNC ported heads, etc.), wouldn't get nearly the fuel economy of the LT1.

Michael
Originally Posted by SCM_Crash
Yeah. How stupid. And they didn't put the LS6 in the 2005 C6. That was dumb too. After all, the LS6 made more power. And it was really dumb that the LT5 didn't become the standard engine in the 1996 Corvettes.

Because you know very little about the LT1, which makes me wonder why you say that GM should have used the top N/A motor they had in a previous generation Corvette instead of a far more efficient (and likely better, more durable) engine.

For now on, I'm just going to comment about how your ignorance never ceases to amaze me each time I reply to something you say. It seems fitting and I still have YET to see you post anything positive about GM or the C7. So many opinionated posts in a forum you obviously don't belong in since you obviously hate every last thing about the C7 and will probably never buy one.
All that…


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