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Old 03-25-2013, 09:18 AM
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We do know its going to be the first model out of the gate but will it really be the base model or is it the G/S replacement considering the hint at the $72K price tag. I don't think Chevrolet has been to clear on this to date.
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The Z51 is the C7 version of the C6 Z51, IMO.
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Well, without rehashing specifics, in interviews and speeches from the reveal and what not, many times you hear them mention items on the car, as being standard or available on the "base" car. So yes, this is the base car. I can't really seeing them going backwards from here in terms of future variants.

The pricing of $72 comes from the sweepstakes grand prize. I signed up, why not? But part of that prize includes museum delivery, and I think a trip to Sebring? as well as a 1 year membership in the "club", whatever that might entail. My guess is that museum delivery,(clearly I didn't read the fine print) would include travel and lodging, along with the rpo cost of the delivery itself. So, that $72K is the total value of the Grand Prize, not just the car itself.

I was incorrect here folks. It seems that the estimated value of the car alone is the $ 71,8xx number. I really hope that's the one with all the boxes checked, because if it isn't, they won't be building too awful many of these, I'm afraid.

That said, they compare this car to the current Grand Sport in terms of performance. They also say that if you can afford the current car, you can afford this one. If they mean the base coupe at $49,500K or the GS at $60K+ is anyone's guess. However I think they know they would be shooting themselves in the foot if they put the base out at a $10K + price hike. I'm going with the current belief that the base, 1lt will come in at $52-$55K.

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Originally Posted by lt4obsesses
Well, without rehashing specifics, in interviews and speeches from the reveal and what not, many times you hear them mention items on the car, as being standard or available on the "base" car. So yes, this is the base car. I can't really seeing them going backwards from here in terms of future variants.

The pricing of $72 comes from the sweepstakes grand prize. I signed up, why not? But part of that prize includes museum delivery, and I think a trip to Sebring? as well as a 1 year membership in the "club", whatever that might entail. My guess is that museum delivery,(clearly I didn't read the fine print) would include travel and lodging, along with the rpo cost of the delivery itself. So, that $72K is the total value of the Grand Prize, not just the car itself.

That said, they compare this car to the current Grand Sport in terms of performance. They also say that if you can afford the current car, you can afford this one. If they mean the base coupe at $49,500K or the GS at $60K+ is anyone's guess. However I think they know they would be shooting themselves in the foot if they put the base out at a $10K + price hike. I'm going with the current belief that the base, 1lt will come in at $52-$55K.
Since there will be two flavors of Stingray, the Z51 is the performance model over the standard one. Forget the Z's, GS's etc. No one knows what will be after these cars once production starts. From all the video's and info out currently, IMO, the Z51 option is really the replacement for the GS model since that's what Tadge and company keep comparing performance to. If and when they come out with a Z car, then the base will truly be a base car.

They can't price the C7 in the $60's as a base car or no one will buy it. More like low $50's is my guess for the start of 1LT...

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Originally Posted by lt4obsesses
The pricing of $72 comes from the sweepstakes grand prize. I signed up, why not? But part of that prize includes museum delivery, and I think a trip to Sebring? as well as a 1 year membership in the "club", whatever that might entail. My guess is that museum delivery,(clearly I didn't read the fine print) would include travel and lodging, along with the rpo cost of the delivery itself. So, that $72K is the total value of the Grand Prize, not just the car itself.
"Odds of winning the Grand Prize depend on the number of eligible entries received during the Promotion Period. Total ARV of the Grand Prize: $82,610."
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Occam's Razor.

The Stingray is the base C7, and its starting price will be close to that of the outgoing C6.

Price a loaded 2013 GrandSport Coupe and you'll see it tops $72K. So it's not a huge stretch for a loaded C7 Z51 to be $72K.

A $72K prize car and a starting price close to $50K are not mutually exclusive.

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Originally Posted by Jinx
Occam's Razor.
Where, in any thread in the c7 forum, is this principle followed?
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Motor trend interview with Kirk Binnion
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"We felt making the car special enough to call it a Stingray, but also giving the starting point for the C7 Corvette a really good name was very key to the car"

http://wot.motortrend.com/designers-...#axzz2OZEvz969
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Originally Posted by HurricaneRN
Where, in any thread in the c7 forum, is this principle followed?
"Occam's Razor" is just a fancy term for "Keep it simple, stupid"..... in terms of logical analysis and deductive reasoning!

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Where is it written that the C7 they are giving away is a stripped base model? It could be a top of the line Stingray with all the options available!
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The simpler explanation tends to be the correct one.

But some people wish things were better, and other people worry things will be worse, and hope and fear can be powerful hallucinogens.

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Will we get a 6 cyl, vinyl seats or plasticy dash/console to help hold down the cost?
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lt4 makes a cogent argument for pricing. of all the various car giveaways I've seen only a few are for a car only, and only a very few are for an el strippo car (tip of the hat to vettenutchas).

we need more deductive reasoning like the above if we're going to stay ahead of GM's dribs and drabs of information until it's time for the big reveal of all the (relevant and detailed data) news that fits to print.
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Originally Posted by CPhelps
The Z51 is the C7 version of the C6 Z51, IMO.
With the only problem that I paid $39.995 for a 1LT C6 Z51 MT.
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Originally Posted by eurostyle
With the only problem that I paid $39.995 for a 1LT C6 Z51 MT.
In 2005? In 2005, gas prices were in the low 2$ range, $2.12 here in New York. Prices go up. Only problem is, my pay check doesn't go up equally with rising costs.
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Originally Posted by Blackdevil77
In 2005? In 2005, gas prices were in the low 2$ range, $2.12 here in New York. Prices go up. Only problem is, my pay check doesn't go up equally with rising costs.
Yea and at GM they go up 3X
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Originally Posted by HurricaneRN
"Odds of winning the Grand Prize depend on the number of eligible entries received during the Promotion Period. Total ARV of the Grand Prize: $82,610."
Yeah, I finally went and read the it. It does seem that they are estimating the Corvette prize at just under $72K. I was indeed incorrect in believing that it was an all inclusive number. What does that mean, I'm not sure. No museum delivery either, oh well.

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